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AIBU to think that men who pee in public are disgusting and should be heavily fined?

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ArcheryAnnie · 06/08/2024 20:14

I work in central London, the entrance to my office is on a small secluded side street, and it is an unusual week when I don't run into one man or another who has nipped into the street to have a pee, despite there being an open pub opposite and public loos 2 mins away. On my way home tonight, waiting to get the lift from the tube platform to the ticket hall, yet another guy whipped his dick out and had a pee onto the doorframe of the lift. When I pointed out we were yards from a public loo, he said "I have a weak bladder", and laughed.

You know who else has a weak bladder? Half the other middle-aged women I know. And yet we (usually) refrain from peeing in the street next to strangers.

All these men with their dicks in their hands will then go on to touch lift buttons, handrails, touch pads, etc.

Oh how I want them all to be arrested and given enormous fines. I am so sick of it.

OP posts:
parkrun500club · 08/08/2024 10:56

AgnesX · 06/08/2024 20:57

There'll be various people along shortly to tell you that it's quite acceptable and it's all the councils' fault for not providing public conveniences.

Seems in the length of time it took me to type the post....

Edited

Well maybe local councils COULD provide public conveniences!

It's disgusting when it's done in an urban environment and stinks the place out, but behind a bush in the countryside - meh.

parkrun500club · 08/08/2024 10:58

Bumply · 07/08/2024 12:21

My local parkrun doesn't have nearby toilets (which is clearly indicated on the website site and in emails)

They have to have pee patrol to dissuade people from peeing at the back of the houses by the park, as the householders obviously object to such behaviour. Puts the parkrun at risk if they're not prevented.

Mostly men as far as I know.

The women I know who have weak bladders avoid that parkrun

Yes I always check parkrun websites to ensure there are loos around, or close by!

New Year's Day and Christmas Day parkruns can be an issue when the loos are closed, fortunately my local parkrun can open the loos.

JMSA · 08/08/2024 10:59

YANBU. Fucking animals.

5foot5 · 08/08/2024 11:14

Blarn · 07/08/2024 12:12

Dh has urinated out and about but on country walks etc where he goes off the path, tries his very best to be away from anyone who might pass. Sometimes I have had to do the same. Never ideal but sometimes needs must.

I really think some men who do it very publicly like the exposure, they get a thrill out of the chance of someone seeing their penis in the street the same way men who just expose themselves do.

You sound exactly like us. DH and I (both in our 60s) do a lot of country walks and quite often DH will announce that he has to go and examine the back of that tree or this dry stone wall for a bit. Obviously he makes sure first that nobody is about and I am usually instructed to keep watch for anyone approaching.

Less often, but not unusually, I have to do similar. But I tend to require even denser cover before I feel safe to do so. I can think of only once where I nearly came unstuck. I was absolutely desperate and went in to a passing place on a quiet country lane where there was a large bush which I thought shielded me from view. Sod's Law I was just starting when two cars came from opposite directions and one needed to pull in to the passing place!

5foot5 · 08/08/2024 11:19

Trenda · 08/08/2024 10:54

I bought a shewee but couldn't get the hang if it in the privacy of my own shower room.
Has anyone ever managed a clear and clean outdoor wee in trousers using one ? I would love to learn the knack.

Well I certainly haven't got the knack.

I got one a few years back. I practiced in the toilet at home with nothing on and it seemed successful. But the first (and only) time I tried fully dressed I ended up having to have a complete change of clothes. Thankfully this was still at home by way of a practice and not out in the field, as it were.

Ponoka7 · 08/08/2024 11:22

There are fines and the laws to deal with it. There just isn't anyone to enforce them.

Anyotherdude · 08/08/2024 11:24

It is awful but amazingly there is no general law about it. Instead it’s left up to Local Authorities, according to the UK zGovernment website:

“Penalties for public urination is usually included in the by-laws of individual local authorities under section 235 of the Local Government Act 1972.”

Mischance · 08/08/2024 11:33

I was once peeing in a hedge-lined ditch by an autobahn - totally out of sight of the cars passing. But ...... a coach went by - much taller - the passengers gave me a wave!!!

Americano75 · 08/08/2024 12:11

AquaFurball · 07/08/2024 01:16

Criminal offense in Scotland

This explains why we saw no less than 3 men in the space of 5 days doing it when we were down in England a few weeks ago. One of them was a contractor who did it a few feet away from our caravan. Fucking animals.

colouredpencils · 08/08/2024 12:58

I was at a roundabout feeding onto the motorway in my car when a man got out of his car rights near me and proceeded to do a wee in full view of all the cars waiting for the lights to change. Then the car he was a passenger in had to wait for him on the slip road hard shoulder.

I've been known to wee up secluded alleys etc. I've quite a sensitive bladder and if I think about it too much then I need to go. I once did a wee at night in a quiet lane behind a parked car only to hear noise from within the car from what I guessed was a canoodling couple in the car. I beat a hasty retreat

BestZebbie · 08/08/2024 13:21

BashfulClam · 06/08/2024 23:40

I’m kinda jealous of how easy men have it when caught short. We got stuck for several hours due to a jack knifed lorry on a snowy road. Saw quite a few men jump out of their vehicles and run into the trees at the side of the road. I was trying to think how I could go discreetly, luckily we managed to turn round and go back to wherever started where it was less snowy. On nights out a lot of blokes would disappear at certain points on our walks home, the girls just had to hold it in.

I appreciate that a lot of elderly men develop prostrate issues, but I do sometimes wonder if the prevalence of male urinary incontinence in old age is contributed to at all by a lot of men never feeling they need to learn to hold it for more than a moment or two in earlier life.

ScholesPanda · 08/08/2024 13:37

TheM55 · 07/08/2024 01:29

If it is clear that a person (male or female) having been "caught out" has gone into bushes or similar to do it (so hidden), and there are no alternatives, then I am fine with it. If it is lazy drunkards (men or women) pissing in lifts, doorways or any other convenient place for them, then I am not fine with it. I would also be absolutely fine with traffic jams or unexpected events, either gender. I think every situation is different and should be judged as such.

I agree with this.

TheMightyWanderer · 08/08/2024 13:39

It’s so vile. I once saw a man get out of his mate’s van while in slow (not standstill) traffic on the M32, get his dick out, and walk alongside the van while pissing. All with a big gross grin on his face 🤢 so disgusting.

ScholesPanda · 08/08/2024 13:40

Mischance · 08/08/2024 11:33

I was once peeing in a hedge-lined ditch by an autobahn - totally out of sight of the cars passing. But ...... a coach went by - much taller - the passengers gave me a wave!!!

This happened to a (female) friend of mine, caught short in a large park whilst walking her dogs. Went into a thicket on the edge of the park to ensure she couldn't be seen from the park, close to a tall wall screening the road.

Or it did until a double decker bus went past...

YoureNotFromBrighton · 08/08/2024 13:46

How is it different to dogs pissing on our streets day in day out, and pooing all over the place too (so what if it gets picked up - still leaves a smudge of faeces).

Until we stop letting dogs do it - a species we don't need, I can't get worked up about humans doing it.

AgnesX · 08/08/2024 14:25

parkrun500club · 08/08/2024 10:56

Well maybe local councils COULD provide public conveniences!

It's disgusting when it's done in an urban environment and stinks the place out, but behind a bush in the countryside - meh.

The point being that
a) people are too idle to walk to one....like the drunks who leave the pub and piss in doorways (which I've seen)
b) that people still think it's ok to piss in the street

NameChanged100thTime · 08/08/2024 14:36

What kind of person would find it acceptable to pee in a doorway or lift?! I used to be quite a chilled out person, but starting to dislike men more and more as I come across situations like this so often. I've come across men peeing in tube stations, lifts, shopping centres, etc. and the blatant disregard sometimes makes me think that they do it on purpose to upset women, to show that they can do whatever the hell they want and there's nothing we can do about it. I despair.

5foot5 · 08/08/2024 14:49

BestZebbie · 08/08/2024 13:21

I appreciate that a lot of elderly men develop prostrate issues, but I do sometimes wonder if the prevalence of male urinary incontinence in old age is contributed to at all by a lot of men never feeling they need to learn to hold it for more than a moment or two in earlier life.

DH (66) will pee behind a bush if we are out in the countryside on a walk but wouldn't dream of peeing in a public place like a built up area. However I am occasionally exasperated when we have been somewhere where a toilet is available, e.g. a restaurant, and he didn't bother to go, then half an hour later he is apparently desperate and we need to find a toilet.

Recently we made a longish journey in to Europe that involved several trains. After about three consecutive train journeys where he had not used the, perfectly adequate, toilets on the train but as soon as we got off he had to find the toilet in the station NOW, I asked him why on Earth he hadn't gone on the train when he had the chance. His excuse was that he didn't need to go then. When I asked why he couldn't just go anyway before he got desparate he claimed that wasn't possible.

His claim, he can't make himself go when he isn't ready. Maybe as we women have smaller bladders we have a lifetime experience of squeezing out what you can when there is the opportunity to avoid difficulties later.

5foot5 · 08/08/2024 14:57

Mischance · 08/08/2024 11:33

I was once peeing in a hedge-lined ditch by an autobahn - totally out of sight of the cars passing. But ...... a coach went by - much taller - the passengers gave me a wave!!!

This reminds me of an occasion years ago when my sister and I were on a walk in the Peak District and both needed to pee. We were on a fairly remote price of moorland with nobody in sight so we decided to step off the path in to the heather to do the necessary.

Just squatting down performing when there was the sound of distant voices. We hastily finished off and looked around in a panic to see where the people were. Then we noticed the hang gliders above....

ChildlessCatLadiesRuleOK · 08/08/2024 15:18

Salumthecat · 07/08/2024 02:06

At least it’s only wee, my DP used to be a taxi driver and said that some drivers on long journeys would poo into a carrier bag if they were desperate.
We live in a rural area so lots of country roads. They would have been better going into a field and behind a tree but too lazy.

I asked what they did with the bag, he said he had an argument with a couple of men who admitted they just threw it out of the window, he was absolutely disgusted and said his opinion of them completely changed.

It’s like people that scoop up their dog shit then hang the bag on a tree. Some people are just disgusting!

I had a friend once that pooed in a jug when her car broke down after a gig in Manchester, she said she didn’t feel safe enough to get out and there was nowhere to go anyway, she was waiting for the breakdown service with the doors locked.
She remembered she’d been shopping including to B&M and bought a measuring jug before the gig so used that and planned to dispose of it when she got home.
She had to wait for hours and then by the time the AA got her car going and she got home she was exhausted and forgot about her deposit wrapped in a carrier bag in the boot. Her husband used the car the next few days so it was a while before she finally remembered, as he never mentioned it she assumed he hadn’t seen it, she went and checked and the poo was gone.

Neither of them mentioned it… however he did leave her a few weeks later out of nowhere. It’s been 13 years and she still puts it down to that moment of desperation.
She got drunk and finally asked him if that was the reason after they separated, he just said “let bygones by bygones we’ve both moved on”

I think the moral to these stories is that we need more public toilets or some people need to try to go before they set off on long journeys or stop when they can!

That is a very sad story, but how does a person forget about a jug of shit in the car boot?

reallyworriedjobhunter · 08/08/2024 15:22

I live in London next to a park. I see grown men peeing on the first tree inside the park gate multiple times a day. It's never ever women. Gross.

Porridgenpots · 08/08/2024 15:27

Bedtime91 · 06/08/2024 23:31

I posted similar a couple of years ago after I saw out of my living room window a man standing next to his car, peeing into an empty car parking space, in broad daylight, practically onto the pavement, on a very residential street near the centre of town.

I got pounced on because he could have had a hidden disability that meant he simply couldn't wait. Let's forget the fact he wasn't even bothering to TRY and be the tiniest bit discreet which I think you would if you were really caught short. And do only men have these hidden disabilities?

Anyway Mumsnet is a strange place and YANBU

I think I remember that thread!

And no OP YANBU it’s absolutely disgusting and they rarely wash/ sanitise their hands afterwards. It’s just grim and unnecessary. We are expected to hold it in even when periods when we may need to go more but men are just whipping it out everywhere.

Porridgenpots · 08/08/2024 15:32

She had to wait for hours and then by the time the AA got her car going and she got home she was exhausted and forgot about her deposit wrapped in a carrier bag in the boot. Her husband used the car the next few days so it was a while before she finally remembered, as he never mentioned it she assumed he hadn’t seen it, she went and checked and the poo was gone

Neither of them mentioned it… however he did leave her a few weeks later out of nowhere. It’s been 13 years and she still puts it down to that moment of desperation.
She got drunk and finally asked him if that was the reason after they separated, he just said “let bygones by bygones we’ve both moved on”

That’s a crazy story @Salumthecat and it reminds me of how much women put up with literal crap from men (skid marks on beds, men not showering for days etc) but in many cases a man will just not tolerate even a fraction of that stuff. Women are way too accommodating.

But then I’m guessing your friends marriage was already on its last legs and she just didn’t know it - really for him that was just the final straw.

firef1y · 08/08/2024 16:11

Cartwrightandson · 07/08/2024 13:23

Get a she wee type thing and go somewhere discreet if you absolutely must

Have you ever actually tried using one of those??
I have and believe me with all the faffing around trying to get it positioned so it doesn't leak all down your leg (which involves partially pulling down running leggings if you're running) you might as well find a bush or field edge out of sight and just do a wild wee.

i am a long distance runner, if I'm running road I make sure my route takes me past plenty of loos, but if I'm out on the trail then sorry, I have no shame, if I need to pee I find somewhere as much out of sight of the trail as possible. Yes there are times when I wish I was a man and could just go up the nearest tree.

Nitgel · 08/08/2024 16:13

i hate this, and I really find the open urinals on the london streets foul. Who decided that was a good idea! London needs to build more toilets.