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AIBU to think that men who pee in public are disgusting and should be heavily fined?

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ArcheryAnnie · 06/08/2024 20:14

I work in central London, the entrance to my office is on a small secluded side street, and it is an unusual week when I don't run into one man or another who has nipped into the street to have a pee, despite there being an open pub opposite and public loos 2 mins away. On my way home tonight, waiting to get the lift from the tube platform to the ticket hall, yet another guy whipped his dick out and had a pee onto the doorframe of the lift. When I pointed out we were yards from a public loo, he said "I have a weak bladder", and laughed.

You know who else has a weak bladder? Half the other middle-aged women I know. And yet we (usually) refrain from peeing in the street next to strangers.

All these men with their dicks in their hands will then go on to touch lift buttons, handrails, touch pads, etc.

Oh how I want them all to be arrested and given enormous fines. I am so sick of it.

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caringcarer · 07/08/2024 01:10

It annoys me when driving on the motorway to see men weeing especially when about 100 metres from a service station.

AquaFurball · 07/08/2024 01:16

Criminal offense in Scotland

samarrange · 07/08/2024 01:26

In France it is completely legal to pee anywhere, as long as you don't commit what it charmingly known as an attentat à la pudeur, which means showing your bits. A couple of times I saw policemen nipping behind a bush in the park for a pee while on long boring guard duty outside the public building I worked in. You could see their heads above the bush but that was all.

There was a wonderful French book about 30 years ago called Le Guide de l'Emmerdeur (roughly, How To Be A Bit Of A Cunt). Each chapter was dedicated to some aspect of French law which, if everyone took it literally as written, would probably lead to chaos. Your neighbour goes on holiday and asks you to keep his expensive new TV in your house for safety, then when he comes back you refuse to give it to him and claim he sold it to you. You go into a shop to buy wine, get them to open several bottles to taste (there is an official list of things that you are entitled to taste before you buy, and wine is one of them) and then decide you don't like any of them. And the peeing in the street. There were many others too.

TheM55 · 07/08/2024 01:29

If it is clear that a person (male or female) having been "caught out" has gone into bushes or similar to do it (so hidden), and there are no alternatives, then I am fine with it. If it is lazy drunkards (men or women) pissing in lifts, doorways or any other convenient place for them, then I am not fine with it. I would also be absolutely fine with traffic jams or unexpected events, either gender. I think every situation is different and should be judged as such.

ThatsCute · 07/08/2024 01:31

Bedtime91 · 06/08/2024 23:31

I posted similar a couple of years ago after I saw out of my living room window a man standing next to his car, peeing into an empty car parking space, in broad daylight, practically onto the pavement, on a very residential street near the centre of town.

I got pounced on because he could have had a hidden disability that meant he simply couldn't wait. Let's forget the fact he wasn't even bothering to TRY and be the tiniest bit discreet which I think you would if you were really caught short. And do only men have these hidden disabilities?

Anyway Mumsnet is a strange place and YANBU

Same. I was told I was a horrible human being. I pee myself when I sneeze, but wouldn’t dream of urinating in the street FFS. Poor men and their poor (hypothetical, per the general public) medical issues! ☹️ Meanwhile, the women who have had babies manage to figure out a way without entitlement…

Salumthecat · 07/08/2024 02:06

At least it’s only wee, my DP used to be a taxi driver and said that some drivers on long journeys would poo into a carrier bag if they were desperate.
We live in a rural area so lots of country roads. They would have been better going into a field and behind a tree but too lazy.

I asked what they did with the bag, he said he had an argument with a couple of men who admitted they just threw it out of the window, he was absolutely disgusted and said his opinion of them completely changed.

It’s like people that scoop up their dog shit then hang the bag on a tree. Some people are just disgusting!

I had a friend once that pooed in a jug when her car broke down after a gig in Manchester, she said she didn’t feel safe enough to get out and there was nowhere to go anyway, she was waiting for the breakdown service with the doors locked.
She remembered she’d been shopping including to B&M and bought a measuring jug before the gig so used that and planned to dispose of it when she got home.
She had to wait for hours and then by the time the AA got her car going and she got home she was exhausted and forgot about her deposit wrapped in a carrier bag in the boot. Her husband used the car the next few days so it was a while before she finally remembered, as he never mentioned it she assumed he hadn’t seen it, she went and checked and the poo was gone.

Neither of them mentioned it… however he did leave her a few weeks later out of nowhere. It’s been 13 years and she still puts it down to that moment of desperation.
She got drunk and finally asked him if that was the reason after they separated, he just said “let bygones by bygones we’ve both moved on”

I think the moral to these stories is that we need more public toilets or some people need to try to go before they set off on long journeys or stop when they can!

Lacdulancelot · 07/08/2024 02:20

@samarrange discharge of unsanitary liquids outside authorised areas is a class 4 offense in France and peeing in public places though still quite common is definitely illegal. You can urinate on your own land or someone else’s with their permission.

samarrange · 07/08/2024 02:24

Salumthecat · 07/08/2024 02:06

At least it’s only wee, my DP used to be a taxi driver and said that some drivers on long journeys would poo into a carrier bag if they were desperate.
We live in a rural area so lots of country roads. They would have been better going into a field and behind a tree but too lazy.

I asked what they did with the bag, he said he had an argument with a couple of men who admitted they just threw it out of the window, he was absolutely disgusted and said his opinion of them completely changed.

It’s like people that scoop up their dog shit then hang the bag on a tree. Some people are just disgusting!

I had a friend once that pooed in a jug when her car broke down after a gig in Manchester, she said she didn’t feel safe enough to get out and there was nowhere to go anyway, she was waiting for the breakdown service with the doors locked.
She remembered she’d been shopping including to B&M and bought a measuring jug before the gig so used that and planned to dispose of it when she got home.
She had to wait for hours and then by the time the AA got her car going and she got home she was exhausted and forgot about her deposit wrapped in a carrier bag in the boot. Her husband used the car the next few days so it was a while before she finally remembered, as he never mentioned it she assumed he hadn’t seen it, she went and checked and the poo was gone.

Neither of them mentioned it… however he did leave her a few weeks later out of nowhere. It’s been 13 years and she still puts it down to that moment of desperation.
She got drunk and finally asked him if that was the reason after they separated, he just said “let bygones by bygones we’ve both moved on”

I think the moral to these stories is that we need more public toilets or some people need to try to go before they set off on long journeys or stop when they can!

It’s like people that scoop up their dog shit then hang the bag on a tree.

The worst are the ones who do this in the countryside. If they just left the shit on the ground it would be gone in a couple of days.

Moglet4 · 07/08/2024 11:01

Anotherparkingthread · 06/08/2024 20:52

I think it would be an absolute crime to start putting men caught peeing in public on the sex offenders register. If any man can say 'oh I was just pissing in a bush' and it becomes a believable reason to be on the register at all then there's literally no point in it. It also means police disclosures to women could be lied about, as they don't give the exact details of the crime. If a man is a known sex offender but it's reduced to meaning he might have just pissed in an ally when he was 18 on his way home from a nightclub it belittles abs invalidates it.

I do agree when public toilets are nearby etc then it's absolutely no excuse. But in a lot of arrears councils have cut funding and closed public toilets, in these places of course there will be piss in random alleys and parks, because people need to use the toilet. We should encourage councils to make them more available. A lot of narrative was that as part of business licensing that businesses would pick up the slack but often they are 'customer toilets' which means you have to buy something. A lot of people don't want to waste money and don't have time to buy something. A pub in the example given id particularly bad as you likely know a drink kill just make you need to pee again and could take you a few minutes to drink.

Amazing how 99% of women manage

BarnacleBeasley · 07/08/2024 11:05

All these men with their dicks in their hands will then go on to touch lift buttons, handrails, touch pads, etc.

You're not being unreasonable, but they wouldn't be washing their hands even if they'd bothered going in the public toilets.

KimberleyClark · 07/08/2024 11:12

In France it is completely legal to pee anywhere, as long as you don't commit what it charmingly known as an attentat à la pudeur, which means showing your bits. A couple of times I saw policemen nipping behind a bush in the park for a pee while on long boring guard duty outside the public building I worked in. You could see their heads above the bush but that was all.

Yes saw a man doing this in a park in Berlin too.

KimberleyClark · 07/08/2024 11:15

I think the very least men can do if they have to piss in the street is to find a drain and piss straight down it.

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 07/08/2024 11:23

Put a notice up where it’s happening, @ArcheryAnnie. ‘If you’re peeing here, ask your parents about toilet training.’

It’s perfectly easy to use the toilets in a busy pub without buying anything. Nobody notices.

stuckdownahole · 07/08/2024 12:04

I'm male. There's a difference between male and female behaviour that doesn't reflect well on us.

I went with a group of friends to an evening football match, struggling through bad traffic. Arriving late, we were directed into overflow parking in a field. The (male) driver J. had been desperate for some time and once parked jumped out of the car and immediately started peeing next to it. Problem was, other cars were still arriving and one pulled up next to us occupied by a respectable looking couple in their 50s. J. had his back to them but looked over his shoulder and started apologising nearly as profusely as he was urinating "sorry, sorry, I know it's bad of me, we've been on the road for hours" etc.

The man of the couple looked annoyed. The woman looked stressed and uncomfortable and I understood why when she said "it's OK, I'm nearly doing the same myself". She went to head towards the stadium then changed her mind and turned, ran in the opposite direction and ducked down among the rows of already-parked cars.

There would be people who would say both my friend J. and this woman were wrong, they both peed in public. I think there's a difference. He did apologise when caught, but she managed to control herself for one more minute so that she could hide. One more minute, it's not much of an effort is it?

Blarn · 07/08/2024 12:12

Dh has urinated out and about but on country walks etc where he goes off the path, tries his very best to be away from anyone who might pass. Sometimes I have had to do the same. Never ideal but sometimes needs must.

I really think some men who do it very publicly like the exposure, they get a thrill out of the chance of someone seeing their penis in the street the same way men who just expose themselves do.

GreenIvyy · 07/08/2024 12:18

Disgusting. What i also hate seeing are those blokes who walk around with their hand down their trousers! Not the ones in suits/jeans but tracky bottoms. I mean obviously their only scratching their inside of their leg!?! 😒 Why do they think thats acceptable?! I dont walk around with my hand up my vag. Anyway, ive started slowing down in my car so they notice me, and pulling a disgusted face, they soon get it and detach their hand from the knob/balls area and out the trousers

Bumply · 07/08/2024 12:21

My local parkrun doesn't have nearby toilets (which is clearly indicated on the website site and in emails)

They have to have pee patrol to dissuade people from peeing at the back of the houses by the park, as the householders obviously object to such behaviour. Puts the parkrun at risk if they're not prevented.

Mostly men as far as I know.

The women I know who have weak bladders avoid that parkrun

OnlyFrench · 07/08/2024 12:48

I have a gîte with a beautiful courtyard. Went to do a changeover last summer and it was clear one of the occupants had been peeing against the wall.

Also saw a fruit picker peeing against the side of a portaloo.

henlake7 · 07/08/2024 13:22

Not unreasonable at all. People who pee in obviously public places should be charged and made to do community service cleaning up all the piss and shit covered alleyways in the area!
There is a difference between being caught short and having to find somewhere somewhat private and just pissing in the street like you are puppy who hasnt been house trained.

On my way to work last night I had to squeeze past a group of teens who were sat on the end of a footbridge, one of the lads was pissing off the side and actually singing about how people could see his knob!
I really wanted to smack him with a rolled up newspaper and rub his nose in it!!

Cartwrightandson · 07/08/2024 13:23

Get a she wee type thing and go somewhere discreet if you absolutely must

AIBU to think that men who pee in public are disgusting and should be heavily fined?
longdistanceclaraclara · 07/08/2024 13:25

It's grim. As are the Uber drivers who park up at the end of my road and toss bottles of piss out of the car.

Grateeggspectations · 07/08/2024 13:30

Yep. But also fine for spitting in anywhere other than a handkerchief

twentysevendresses · 07/08/2024 13:56

I am shocked at the posters who are making excuses for the dirty bastards pissing in the street!!

There is NO reason at all that a person needs to do this...in 60 years on this planet, I've NEVER pissed on the street (or anywhere else 'alfresco'). And there have been times when I have been in literal pain due to needing to go...but still managed to maintain my dignity and sense of public decency, and wait until I found a toilet!

Men who whip out their knob and pee publicly need it chopping off - or at least fining, if chopping it off isn't palatable!

I'm totally fed up of walking past stinking piss on the streets! It's disgusting...THEY are disgusting! 🤢

ArcheryAnnie · 08/08/2024 09:24

BarnacleBeasley · 07/08/2024 11:05

All these men with their dicks in their hands will then go on to touch lift buttons, handrails, touch pads, etc.

You're not being unreasonable, but they wouldn't be washing their hands even if they'd bothered going in the public toilets.

You aren't wrong. In my office building the women's loos have to refill the soap all the time. The men's loos get through very little.

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Trenda · 08/08/2024 10:54

Cartwrightandson · 07/08/2024 13:23

Get a she wee type thing and go somewhere discreet if you absolutely must

I bought a shewee but couldn't get the hang if it in the privacy of my own shower room.
Has anyone ever managed a clear and clean outdoor wee in trousers using one ? I would love to learn the knack.

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