Dd wants to get fat loss injection

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I don't agree. She says 'everyone is taking it and it works'. She is 20 and ND. Also overweight (in the obese category just). Has social anxiety and vapes too much which makes physical exercise difficult as she's too embarrassed. There is no one for her to exercise with and she won't do it alone. She thinks the injection is the answer. Help!

It's working for me, 19 lbs in 5 weeks. What are your objections?

Can she afford them? As she is an adult with capability there is not much you can do other than raise your concerns.

can you not exercise with her?

Help with what? If she is obese she should be losing weight so why not try the injections?

If it's not for valid medical reasons under prescription, it can be quite dangerous.

Trust me it is not the answer. I know someone who has been on the injections for a couple of months purely for weight loss and they fear they will now have permanent gastrointestinal issues related to toileting

She needs to discuss this with her GP.

Could she look at 1-2-1/Cambridge in the mean time?

No, she doesn't.

She is an adult. I have just told my mum i will be starting Mounjaro. I didn't ask her permission.

The only caveat is it needs to be alongside a healthy lifestyle. There's no point doing it if she won't exercise etc., as when she stops all the weight will just pile back on.

Big risk of thyroid cancer, doesn't actually teach you to eat better, put the weight back on when you stop.

No 'big' risk..... just a risk, like there is with everything in life

@letsjustdothis are you making it up as you go along? You are talking bollocks

If she can afford it, it's best you help her find a legit source rather than blanket disapproval.
The danger lies if she gets a backstreet version.
It's something I wouldn't discourage if the person was overweight/obese. I'd do it myself if I needed to. But it's expensive, and she mustn't try and access a cut price version.

She doesn't need to do any exercise, just eat better. I would take her to a nutritionist so she can learn what she should be eating, when, and why.

Is she asking you to pay?

If not: she's an adult woman and it's her body. It's between her and the person who signs off on the prescription (or not). I don't blame you for not being happy, but it's not up to you. I would at least strongly advise her not to buy it illegally.

Good on her for wanting to take control of her weight. I lost just over 2stone in 7 months and feel amazing. My bmi before was 30.1 and now it's 24.8 so only just healthy weight but it's made such a difference to how I feel in myself. I didn't tell anyone when I started though because of all the negative comments and judgements. Wouldn't you rather she was honest and confiding in you than doing it in secret?
Encourage her, support her, and best of luck to her

Big risk of thyroid cancer, doesn't actually teach you to eat better, put the weight back on when you stop.

Being/remaining obese also significantly increases cancer, and most diets don't teach you to eat better, with high rates of relapses when the diet is stopped.

@letsjustdothis you edited that response.

You don't turn to these injections as a first line. I have tried everything and now I am getting a helping hand with therapy tied in.

Of course she does. It’s borderline negligent to be advocating she starts a course of medical treatment without first speaking to her doctor.

I would suggest OP, that you read the Mounjaro threads on here....100s of us having great success and losing steadily whilst following a sensible calorie controlled diet. The injection merely takes away cravings and makes sticking to a diet sustainable without feeling deprived.

There isn't anything to fear. It isn't a quick fix. It isn't a way to starve oneself thin. It is prescribed by doctors.

Your daughter is an obese adult and wants to do something to benefit her health. I think you should support her. Encourage her to do research and consider how she might follow a sensible, healthy diet long term once she had lost the weight.

As far as I am concerned the dangers of obesity outweigh those of the specific medication I have chosen to take.

There is some ridiculous and unnecessary scaremongering on here and I am pretty certain those doing it have no experience of the medication at all but are jumping to "it's bad, you'll die!" the same way you seem to be.

@behindthemall if this was the case you wouldn't be able to get a prescription through a pharmacy

If she goes to the doctor she's likely to be given the shakes and meal replacement programs as it's cheaper.

I got offered Ozempic by my doctor yesterday but I refused as I don't trust there not being long term consequences. I suppose all you can do is tell her to do her research and then it is up to her as she is 19.

@behindthemall when you order weight loss injections online a doctor reviews your medical information before issuing a prescription and your own GP is informed.

I would support her OP. Better she loses weight now before it spirals even further out of control. Absolutely do not encourage her to do diets like the Cambridge diet!! So many people have severely disordered eating from being put on diets like that as teenagers.

If you wish to help her and provide support in her weight loss journey, then offer to help her in ordering with a registered pharmacy, gaining the medicine under clinical guidance and not running the risk of fake or contaminated injections.

Otherwise, shut up and do not get involved in further discussions on the subject with her. Most 20 year olds, yes even ND ones, know perfectly what they should be eating and know to exercise. Once they get into the obese weight range there is an incredibly small chance of them losing to and maintaining a healthy weight without intervention. (For example the NHS soup and shakes diet for type 2 diabetics is in the news today for its success, but according to the BBC "Of many thousands invited, hundreds completed the year-long programme" only "A third shed lots of weight - nearly two-and-a-half stone (16kg) - and put their diabetes into remission." - as opposed to the much better results from weight loss injections. The NHS trial involved the participants being given all the food and advice they needed too). She almost certainly knows how to lose weight healthily, whether she can be successful without medical help is up to her to decide.

There is a big difference between being prescribed weight loss injections under pharmacy/doctor supervision and the scare stories from fake drugs bought illegally.

'Big risk of thyroid cancer, doesn't actually teach you to eat better, put the weight back on when you stop.'

Where is this magical diet that teaches you to eat better (as if we don't all already know what's good for us) and doesn't end up in the weight going back on? There isn't one, and that's because obesity is a metabolic condition. One which Mounjaro and Ozempic treats very effectively.

It does work.

At 19 she can either go to the GP or pay for it herself. Its not up to you.

You can get it online from Boots [which surely must be legitimate] and it costs about £200 per week. You start with a lower dose and increase every month if you wish. You just are not interested in food. Started November and very successful so far