Dd wants to get fat loss injection

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I don't agree. She says 'everyone is taking it and it works'. She is 20 and ND. Also overweight (in the obese category just). Has social anxiety and vapes too much which makes physical exercise difficult as she's too embarrassed. There is no one for her to exercise with and she won't do it alone. She thinks the injection is the answer. Help!

Wow if only someone had thought of this before now the obesity crisis would be solved! You should write a book, you'd make millions. 👏🏻

Whatever happens, she should NOT buy it from anywhere that's not properly regulated. There are reports of fake ozempic being sold and causing serious illness- sometimes because the fake pens have insulin in them. There is a major shortage and people need to be very careful. If someone is selling it on facebook or from a beautician's it's illegal and probably fake.

The injections aren't "hard work with nasty side effects" for everyone, stop scaremongering. I've been on it 14 weeks and the worst I've had is some mild constipation which was handled by drinking a bit more water.

I won't say they're an "easy fix" but they make eating a calorie controlled diet incredibly easy for me, which I have never managed to maintain in the past.

OP, was your DD overweight as a child/teenager? If so, it's going to be significantly harder for her to lose weight naturally than someone who reaches 18 a healthy weight and then piles on a few pounds in their 20s. Childhood weight issues are incredibly hard to sort out in adulthood.

I've heard good things about this treatment. It works, apparently. There may be side effects, but I'm not sure they're going to be worse than the health effects of carrying excess weight, self-esteem issues and (self-imposed often) social exclusion.

And the 'what do you learn?' crowd can take a hike. Obesity isn't a moral issue or a lifestyle failing. It's the result of a complex set of interacting factors, only some of which are within the patient's control.

Actually there are evidenced biological processes that do prevent obese people from losing significant amounts of weight and which also predispose them to gain even more weight after they’ve lost a small amount. It’s not a case of not “wanting it” enough.

Way to be supportive, cheers

Mounjaro

Yes it does although it does depend on the speed of the weight loss. It is likely to be faster if you are taking a drug that curbs your appetite and if it is faster a higher % will be muscle.

@Thegreatgiginthesky not being funny but I'm 0.6 off being morbidly obese, I don't care if a bit of muscle goes with the fat

She's 20. Unless she's asking you to pay for it then it's not your decision and you shouldn't be trying to tell her what to do.

Support her in making a decision about her body that she feels good about. Encourage her to explore the pros and cons thoroughly for herself but don't try to scare her out of it or shame her for it. Unless she directly asks your opinion, don't bring it up.

Respectfully, mounjaro hasn't taught you what foods to eat.
You could have just eaten the same junk food as usual on mounjaro, albeit in smaller quantities. I got zero nutritional advice on mounjaro.

I am old enough to know about UPFs, but wouldn't have been clued up on that kind of food at 19 when all my friends are eating burgers and chips.

@VoyOySaveloy you really can't eat junk food whilst on Mounjaro, I can't even face it in the slightest. Haven't eaten sweets, crisps, biscuits, chocolate, icecream, chips, takeaway, pizza etc etc in the 5 weeks I've been on it.

Fair enough. I think the more overweight you are the greater the case for using these drugs. I don't think the OPs daughter was in quite the same situation though and I also think everyone using them should still try to maintain muscle as best they can through exercise and adequate protein ingestion.

Me too @Olika. But I think injectables are a perfectly good tool and people are strangely down on them.

@Thegreatgiginthesky of course, and I do intend on it. But your comment overstates it

@VoyOySaveloy I disagree with that. The way MJ has worked for me is that the injection has totally changed the foods I crave. That’s clearly a reaction to a change happening within my body. I could have continued eating junk, but the injection has worked for me by genuinely changing my cravings.

For example, I no longer crave processed sugars or excess salt. I wake up genuinely wanting fresh foods and things like oats. On SW and WW, I could never control the cravings for crap. Even allowing myself a few ‘syns’ or points wasn’t enough. I’d still binge. MJ has totally changed my life in that for the first time since I was about 13, I no longer have that desire.

Really appreciate all the answers. It seems I'm quite ignorant about it!
It would be me paying as she only works part time due to her ND and mental health issues. I can pay a reasonable amount and would do if it was deemed safe for her. I know she's miserable being the weight she is. But I have several concerns....
in the past she had an eating disorder....this could get out of hand again.
She is supposed to be starting medication for adhd soon.
She struggles with doing things she doesn't want to do....like exercise.
She does like takeaways at the weekend.
Say it works and she loses weight, what if she puts it all back on after I've spent hundreds on it?
She doesn't have the same focus and determination to stick at things.
I'm going to make her a GP appointment to discuss.

If she is about to start adhd medicine I would hold off, I lost a lot of weight when I was on it due to just losing my appetite and I’m not sure how that would work in combo with the injections?

It’s odd - being obese is so bad for long term health. Not only heart health - massively increased risk of cancer, if dementia… but when drugs come along that help people lose weight, everyone Pooh poohs them!

I had a bmi of 31, been on an injection (wegovy) for a while. Losing 2lb a week steadily, it’s helping me a huge amount. I’m learning how to eat well again. I’m also decreasing my risk of cancer and practically every other disease. With not one single side effect

Because don't you know? All fat people are lazy gluttonous masses who deserve nothing and they have to slave away to lose every single pound through misery!!

It definitely sounds a very good idea to discuss with her GP to check if it would be advisable with her history of eating disorder and ADHD.

She needs to drink loads of water and exercise after or they won't work
Lemon bottle is good let her get them nothing wrong with it

Exactly...so that poster is STILL talking bollocks...

Toying with the idea myself

Don't pay for it then. She's working if she wants it she pays for it, then she takes responsibility for making sure she exercises and keeps the weight off if she's the one having to pay for it.