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Where is Keir Starmer?

233 replies

DirtyCarrots · 05/08/2024 20:43

Does anyone else find it weird Keir Starmer isn't more visible this week? He hasn't held a press conference in days, wasn't obviously present at No. 10 after the Cobra meeting and won't recall parliament. Surely he can't have actually gone on his holiday when the UK is in meltdown?

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Baital · 05/08/2024 21:45

Legitimate concerns? Sounds like racism to me. We've just had a general election to choose our representatives.

Immigration was discussed in the election, and the electorate chose Starmer and his manifesto

BeachParty · 05/08/2024 21:45

SocksAndTheCity · 05/08/2024 21:26

You think anyone should listen to those who set a building housing frightened, traumatised people on fire and then try to block the exits, @Sallyshome ?

I'm all for everybody having their say, but attempted murder isn't my idea of reasoned debate.

Or mine

Tryingtokeepgoing · 05/08/2024 21:50

KateDelRick · 05/08/2024 20:47

I don't care what he sounds like as long as he gets the job done. Dull and effective is fine. It's a nice change.

Dull definitely. A poor public speaker for sure. But on effectiveness the jury is out…it took him the best part of a week to have a COBRA meeting 😂I think he’s finding the transition from opposition, where all you have to do is criticise, to power when you actually have to do something somewhat of a shock. Decisions need to be made quicker in times like this…though we have had a lot of statements and aspirations…

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 21:51

MissyB1 · 05/08/2024 21:21

OP I have a suggestion for you, try watching the news, then you won't appear so ill informed.

Its an amazing thing, we have the ability to find out any information we want more easily than we ever had before on the internet, and yet people seem quite happily to go around demonstrating their ignorance.
It seems to happen more and more.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/08/2024 21:53

He’s been very visible, making regular statements / press conferences and chairing COBRA meetings, and other meetings with police etc.

Hes been absolutely visible and very much on it.

Quire unlike the last shower in comparable circumstances.

Hard to believe anyone could genuinely not have noticed.

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 21:54

Notonthestairs · 05/08/2024 21:28

"assured people he would listen to everyone."

Nope - you burn a library or a hotel or drag people out of their cars you get sent to prison, not an interview with the PM.

Of course if you are in prison and after sentencing then you are not allowed to vote, so perhaps when people say that voices are not able to be heard, it is those prisoners that they are thinking of?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/08/2024 21:55

Tryingtokeepgoing · 05/08/2024 21:50

Dull definitely. A poor public speaker for sure. But on effectiveness the jury is out…it took him the best part of a week to have a COBRA meeting 😂I think he’s finding the transition from opposition, where all you have to do is criticise, to power when you actually have to do something somewhat of a shock. Decisions need to be made quicker in times like this…though we have had a lot of statements and aspirations…

Again - I’m really unsure if you are talking about the same person. He’s a far better than average public speaker. He’s been absolute on this.

Far from finding the transition to power a shock, he’s clearly - and I mean absolutely obviously - come right into his element being in power.

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 21:55

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 05/08/2024 21:53

He’s been very visible, making regular statements / press conferences and chairing COBRA meetings, and other meetings with police etc.

Hes been absolutely visible and very much on it.

Quire unlike the last shower in comparable circumstances.

Hard to believe anyone could genuinely not have noticed.

My DD has been out of the country for more than a week, she didn't know there had been riots and no doubt was unaware of what the Prime Minister had been doing during that time.
Could it be that others who have not noticed what the PM is up to are similarly not in the UK?

ChubSeedsYorkie · 05/08/2024 22:02

StuckOnTheCeiling · 05/08/2024 20:45

You mean apart from the speech he made yesterday?

This.

Atethehalloweenchocs · 05/08/2024 22:05

He cancelled his holiday, has been talking to the police, has been out and about talking about what to do. Its not hard to see what he has been doing if you look.

Edingril · 05/08/2024 22:06

I presume just because the public don't seem him does not mean he is not working

RationalityIsHard · 05/08/2024 22:11

Baital · 05/08/2024 21:45

Legitimate concerns? Sounds like racism to me. We've just had a general election to choose our representatives.

Immigration was discussed in the election, and the electorate chose Starmer and his manifesto

Totally bypassing the whole legitimate concerns\racism thing, but our fptp voting system is a sham and bears only a passing resemblance to real democracy. Starmer was elected with the support of less than 34% of the people who actually bothered to vote, so I wouldn't say he has some kind of crushing mandate or represents anything like the majority of people in this country. And I voted for him.

SocksAndTheCity · 05/08/2024 22:15

Edingril · 05/08/2024 22:06

I presume just because the public don't seem him does not mean he is not working

Unfortunately some members of the public have got a bit too used to the idea that if a person isn't constantly posting facile crap on Twatter, doing pointless photo opportunities or appearing on some TV panel show then they cannot possibly be doing anything of any constructive value, because if they were they would have made sure everybody was looking first.

I can't imagine who they got that from.

Fluufer · 05/08/2024 22:19

RationalityIsHard · 05/08/2024 22:11

Totally bypassing the whole legitimate concerns\racism thing, but our fptp voting system is a sham and bears only a passing resemblance to real democracy. Starmer was elected with the support of less than 34% of the people who actually bothered to vote, so I wouldn't say he has some kind of crushing mandate or represents anything like the majority of people in this country. And I voted for him.

Funny how people only give a shit about this 4 weeks after they didn't get the result they wanted...

RationalityIsHard · 05/08/2024 22:21

Fluufer · 05/08/2024 22:19

Funny how people only give a shit about this 4 weeks after they didn't get the result they wanted...

Oh I've given a shit about fptp and the lack of democracy in the UK for about 30+ years now. I wish more people would wake up to it.

saraclara · 05/08/2024 22:22

I'd far rather that sometime was holding some grown up meetings, then wasting time trying to find a camera, personally.

What we appear to have in our new PM is a serious grown up who works hard at what actually needs doing, rather than pandering to a public that thinks that if something isn't on their phone screen entertaining then, it doesn't exist.

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 22:22

RationalityIsHard · 05/08/2024 22:21

Oh I've given a shit about fptp and the lack of democracy in the UK for about 30+ years now. I wish more people would wake up to it.

Edited

I hope you don't mind me asking, do you vote Lib Dem or SNP?

SunnieShine · 05/08/2024 22:23

Maybe he is practicing his kneeling again.

tinydynamine · 05/08/2024 22:23

I bet Rishi's glad he went for an early election.

TokyoSushi · 05/08/2024 22:25

I think he has been visible a fairly reasonable amount.

I bet he & Yvette Cooper have recently had a 'this is actually a bit of a nightmare' moment.

No sign whatsoever of Sunak, probably on a lovely, lovely holiday somewhere.

RationalityIsHard · 05/08/2024 22:26

absquatulize · 05/08/2024 22:22

I hope you don't mind me asking, do you vote Lib Dem or SNP?

I have voted libdem in the past, most notably in 2011 when at least an attempt was made to introduce some kind of electoral reform (a bad one admittedly). Voted labour in the last three elections though.

doublecappuccino · 05/08/2024 22:26

I don't know how many times we heard that he used to be head of prosecutions perhaps he could do some prosecuting . Interesting the cobra meeting had to wait till a weekday . Let's hope less words and more action those poor police are taking all the best and bartering whilst these politicians hide behind words

dottiehens · 05/08/2024 22:26

I remember the same questions of where is Boris all the time. At one point he had Covid and was hospitalised with a newborn at home. Boris was chased to the places he used to go on holidays and chased by paparazzi. So awful.
I do not want to see so much of KS tbh. He can’t say two words without reading from a paper and also always look like scare and robotic or grumpy. He can just be behind the scenes and do his best. I couldn’t also see boring Rishi Sunak very painful to watch too.

KateDelRick · 05/08/2024 22:27

Tryingtokeepgoing · 05/08/2024 21:50

Dull definitely. A poor public speaker for sure. But on effectiveness the jury is out…it took him the best part of a week to have a COBRA meeting 😂I think he’s finding the transition from opposition, where all you have to do is criticise, to power when you actually have to do something somewhat of a shock. Decisions need to be made quicker in times like this…though we have had a lot of statements and aspirations…

I don't think he's "shocked". He knew that government would be different to opposition, he's not a fool..

FlamingWheelieBinofDespair · 05/08/2024 22:28

I expect my prime minister to lead the police into battle, in full riot gear, sat atop a magnificent war horse. And did he do this NO HE DID NOT.