To say the Olympics hates women

[ArabellaScott]

A child rapist performing for the Netherlands.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/olympics/article-13674293/Convicted-child-rapist-Steven-van-Velde-Netherlands-booed-volleyball-olympics.html

Males punching women in the face as sport.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/articles/cnd0drjr4jdo

Offensive caricatures of women everywhere.

https://glaad.org/french-drag-artists-made-history-as-first-in-drag-to-carry-the-olympic-torch/

I said the poster was provoked because she was the subject of a series of bullying and demeaning personal attacks. A pile on.

Cool cool so we can all post whatever we like if we're provoked, right?

No, but I think it’s important to consider and highlight the context to people’s posts, because the narrative is so often co-opted and manipulated.

(as you are attempting to do again now, with me, of course)

I’m not trying to be a ‘what I reckon-er’, just adding to the debate.

You are, and you're not. These points have been addressed on every single thread.

No, but I think it’s important to consider and highlight the context to people’s posts, because the narrative is so often co-opted and manipulated.

Cool cool so the context of my post was the provocation of gaslighting of people claiming the boxer has a vagina when we all saw the Crown Jewels being rearranged live on tv. So my post is fine. Glad you agree.

So my post is fine. Glad you agree. beautiful example of what I said above .

No I don’t agree the context justified you posting that.

But others can read and form their own opinions on that.

Although they won't publish their evidence

They're having a press conference tomorrow. They have stated in an interview that both boxers have XY chromosomes. They say the IOC have had the opportunity to view the tests when they wrote to them originally in 2023 after the disqualification.

No tandora. You don't get to have one rule for those you agree with and a different one for those you don't. That's not how it works.

Maybe I should remind everyone of exactly what Cookie posted and what you think was justified?

the rule is entirely consistent - the context didn’t justify your actions . Everyone can read the thread and see for themselves what you posted (several times) and the context you posted it in. They can decide whether they think it was acceptable. I don’t.

Yes they can. HTH

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And clearly MN didn't think calling a slur was justified. You're on your own here.

Oh I am more than used to that!

@GargoylesofBeelzebub you're upset at being called a 'disgusting slur' but you're more than happy to denigrate another human being in a situation where you (like everyone else) don't have the full facts. How ironic.

Excuse me? can you explain why calling someone male I is denigrating please?

Can you also explain why someone's feelings should be prioritised over female safety?

Well you want your feelings to be prioritised. You don't want to be insulted.

And yet you're happy to comment again and again, post pictures etc in a vicious attack against another human being under the guise of being feminist or whatever other beliefs you have.

You do not have the full facts. Noone has the full facts. There are far too many grey areas about this individual. Have an opinion, but have it without being so utterly hateful.

DSDs are complex and can, for example in 5-Alpha-Reductase deficiency which I believe Semenya has said she has, be linked to ambiguous external genitalia at birth ( with internal testes) but dramatic virilisation at puberty.

People affected develop a deep voice at puberty, grow facial and body hair, the internal testes can drop and the genitalia can change from a micropenis/enlarged clitoris to a phallus making the appearance more closely fit the genotype. Studies report that individuals affected can often change their gender identity if they have been previously raised as female. They undergo all the changes of strength, size associated with a male puberty.

I do not know the details of Khelif and Yu-Ting’s medical history. However, in general, it does not seem appropriate to stick to a sex identified (wrongly) by observation at birth- when in rare cases puberty can change things significantly. Men’s punching capacity is something like double that of women, so it is a risk to women in a combat sport, although I recognise that this is hugely difficult and distressing for the individuals affected.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539904/

Actually it's the site rules that don't allow the kinds of insults that Cookie used. HTH

It's not denigrating someone to show footage that was televised live showing them arranging their Crown Jewels when people are insisting he has a vulva .

I'm utterly sick of the gaslighting.

You didn’t just call them male ,
you said they had a penis and invited people to voyeur their genital area.

That boxer is legally female. It’s been reported that she was raised female since birth. From what we know it’s likely that the test that was done was to test chromosomes- which found XY.

All the evidence suggests this boxer is raised female but has a DSD. Saying she has “a penis” , and inviting people to scrutinise and judge her genitals, is literally the most personal, hurtful and degrading thing you could do in this context. (Think judging and mocking someone for their disability as a point of reference).

Yep. If someone has gone through male.puberty then putting them in a ring with women is callous and foolhardy in the extreme.

No sorry. Saying someone has a penis, when we can all see it being arranged live on TV, is not hurtful. Don't be ridiculous.

It should probably be site rules that you shouldn't be allowed to post hate in the way that you're posting. HTH.

And you don't get to say that's hurtful but calling someone a slur is not. You don't get one rule for you and those you agree with and another for those you disagree with.