To not realise how much money is in selling puppies?

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We've been on the look out for a puppy. We've decided to go for a rescue dog. Got chatting to a neighbour and they told us a neighbour around the corner is selling puppies at £1500 each x6. As far as we know all is above board and they are registered etc.

We were tempted to go for it as the dogs are on our list but something was niggling away at me so decided to stick with our original plan and go for a rescue dog. This is booked for a visit to a rescue centre tomorrow.

I suppose my AIBU is should people not be allowed to breed puppies and those wanting to get one should just get rescue/abandoned dogs instead? There's so many dogs in shelters but they seem to be so many being bred still.

I don't know the full ins and outs but £9,000 tax free is a lot of money from what I understand the neighbours have bred puppies before and made £10,000 so £19,000 in the space of two years with no tax to pay? Should breeders have to pay a tax and only be allowed to breed so many dogs a year?

Apologies if I have this completely wrong and they do have to pay a tax etc.

Huh?

Vile creatures.

A box, they cant get out until they are pregnant.

Gosh how lucky that your own dog had the exact attributes to complement and improve on your bitch... out of all the dogs of that breed in the country, yours was the best.

So what profit did you make out of that revenue - what expenses had to come out of that?

oh haven’t heard of that before that’s hideous

Gosh. Family pets and companion animals are clearly trending down..

A what now? What are you talking about?

The risk with rescue dogs is that you don't know their history and that is really important if you have children.

Honestly, if you are thinking of a pet tor your kids' entertainment, please may I say don't buy that pet. It's not fair on the animal. My DC's friend's mum bought a malamute puppy (too cute for words) but never exercised it properly. It had to be put to sleep several years before the breed life expectancy because it was not given five or seven miles (two hours) exercise every single day. That should be the standard. If you buy a big dog, it needs exercise. To exercise it properly and safely, you need to control the dog. If you are not willing to work at it, please don't have a dog.

Let me bore on a moment. Big dogs, like labradors and up, need exercise every single day of their lives. Even when they are injured or recovering from surgery, in a storm, they need outdoor exercise and the stimulation they get there. You buy proper waterproof clothing. And wear it.

People can act like they do all these health checks and pay tax but they dont. Get a rescue dog

I wouldn't have a rescue dog, under any circumstances, because there are too many unknown factors, You can never know what the dog experienced, or any trigger points for aggression. Put them to sleep, unless they are elderly dogs being rehomed with older owners.

@WiddlinDiddlin very lucky

And rehomed with people who have already owned animals, who know what to expect from a dog trying to find its place in the world.

Any decent rescue throughly assess dogs so you know exactly what you are getting.
This isn't the case for dog pounds and there are some "rescues" who should not be allowed to call themselves a rescue. But good ones exist. A good rescue wants the best outcome for both the dog and the new owner.
Dogs are assessed for trigger points. The majority of dogs that end up in rescues end up there because people buy puppies that they can't care for, they hadn't thought about how much exercise the dog needs, how much it would cost, that the puppy wouldn't be automatically housetrained, that the child has allergies, that the dog would scratch doors when left alone for 8 hours, that they would dig holes in the garden when bored etc. The majority of dogs in rescues make for perfect pets in the right homes.

And good rescues look for the best match for that dog’s needs and then provide support after adoption.

My friend was a kc registered breeder for dachshunds. By the time she'd paid vets bills, jabs, microchips etc there's not as much as you think. One of her dogs had to have a caesarean which wiped out any profit and more one year.

Reputable breeders won't make as much as you think.

But I won't buy puppies and have always had rescue dogs, far too many unwanted dogs to buy a puppy.

Tax free. And the greeders are too fucking lazy to get a proper job. Bastards 😡

Who is this post aimed at?

What a shortsighted view.

You know there are often a lot of puppies in rescues, born in the rescues too right?

I doubt if even 10% of breeders declare their profits and are actually registered.

Even fewer do the recommended health checks, breed checks etc. The costs are not high for breeding so the margins are significant, no wonder so many crap breeders are out there.

Puppy demand has fallen since Covid craziness so there will be fewer breeders, it's getting harder to sell a puppy for £1k let alone the £3k they were getting. But gone are the days of £20 a pup from your neighbour's hairdresser who had an accidental litter.

I would buy a puppy, if it was a particular breed I wanted and the breeder seemed legitimate.

I would also rescue a dog if it was a good match.

It's not about taking any moral highground but assessing your needs/wants and then going forward from there.

If you rescue a dog, adopt from a reputable charity and if you buy a puppy, purchase from a reputable breeder.

This is just being goady.

If you're serious, I don't think you have much experience with dogs at all so your opinion is redundant.

Unfortunately a friend of mine has a family member engaged in this money making scheme. Eventually I cracked and gave both barrels. Its vile.

My dog had a silent season at 4, she and the neighbours dog tied. All of the puppies except 1 went to our friends and family and we kept one. I never made any money from it, if anything I made a loss because I got them all vet checked, registered, microchipped etc. As soon as we could, I also got my girl spayed and her puppy also.

It is great still seeing the puppies though and knowing they are well cared for ☺️

Any decent rescue throughly assess dogs so you know exactly what you are getting

Plenty of supposedly decent rescues do no such thing. However, even the ones that do, they can't always catch everything.

I don't agree with the pp who said put them all down - totally ridiculous. But personally, in a house with children, I would never even consider a rescue dog. I agree with the pp that there are too many unknowns, too many potential aggression triggers that will never be tested.

My mum had a rescue beagle who was as good as gold for about three months. Until my sister walked in one day wearing a black wide brimmed hat and it went wild. Clearly terrified beyond words and I felt awful for the dog but it was actively trying to attack and reach her rather than a cowering kind of fear. It was only the luck of a fortunately positioned baby gate that saved her from probably some very bad bites.