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Huw Edwards

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Aquarius1234 · 31/07/2024 09:50

To think he shouldn't have been paid in full while off long term. As its more like being self employed.
But mainly cos it was 475k upwards of our TV licence money!
Another example is when a famous radio presenter s decide to go off for an extended break to film another show or something. Surely they don't get normal pay when they have extra weeks off not on air!!

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LondonQueen · 31/07/2024 15:34

When you are suspended it's standard practice to be paid

Fluffyelephant · 31/07/2024 15:35

SaintHonoria · 31/07/2024 15:31

What I gather is that a random male contacted him via social media and they started to engage in conversation with the male sensing Huw porn, legal porn.

Given that he's in the public eye and a married man, that's incredibly stupid of him as it could have been a trap.

Then the man sends him photos and films of underage children being abused and all Huw can say is don't send me anything illegal. Not a thought dow the children or reporting to the police.

Then they carry on with their WhatsApp messaging.

He clearly was more worried about getting into trouble than he was for the children's welfare.

What a despicable man.

Yes, it comes across that the 'don't send me anything illegal' was for no other reason than to protect himself.

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 15:36

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 14:54

The fact that he stayed friendly with a man who sent him pictures of children being sexually abused tells you everything you need to know about Huw. He didn't report these images to the police, he didn't report the man, and he stayed in contact with him. He couldn't have been that upset if he didn't cut the sender off.

It makes you wonder about the company he kept. It also makes me wonder about all those stories of him making payments to young men. I'd assumed that he was only paying for explicit selfies and sexual favours, or that he was being blackmailed. Is it possible, though, that he was paying the person who was sending these images? Were men sending him these images in exchange for money?

I wouldn't imagine they were bezzie mates... Most people wouldn't know where to start to look for someone who could share such images! I wonder if the sender knew who he was corresponding with.

His poor wife and family. They must be under such a cloud of shame, through no fault of their own. I hope the police are onto the lowlife who accessed the material, and that children can be rescued as a result.

DBD1975 · 31/07/2024 15:37

BIossomtoes · 31/07/2024 10:08

His trial only starts today. Innocent until proved guilty.

I thought he had pleaded guilty.

faffadoodledo · 31/07/2024 15:40

He did plead guilty so it's just up to the judge to sentence, having seen all the reports and evidence.
In our system it's regarded as nigh on impossible to influence a judge, so there's much more we can say. If a jury was to be involved in the case if a bit guilty plea then I'd suggest MNHQ would have very keen eyes on this thread.

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 15:41

I don't want to derail the thread but I am just reminded that Philip Schofield, another late bloomer suffering from mental health issues, did not inform the police when a young man informed him that he had been abused by Schofield's brother from (IIRC) the age of 13. It all came out during the trial.

Surely another one who should have gone to the police? There should be some legal ramifications for not reporting this kind of thing.

the80sweregreat · 31/07/2024 15:42

The teenager's parents knew who he was corresponding with at some stage because they went up to his place of work to report Edwards and they ended up going to the Sun because nothing was done and he was still able to read the news.

DysonSphere · 31/07/2024 15:42

Another2Cats · 31/07/2024 14:59

"I would be surprised if Huw is going to jail."

I would agree with this. I just read that the he due to be sentenced at the Magistrates Court on 16th Sept.

The important part about being sentenced at the Magistrates Court is that you can only be sentenced to up to six months.

It seems likely that he will either get a suspended sentence or a community order (and I can just image him picking up litter in a bright orange hi-vis vest).

He will also be made subject to the notification requirements (aka the sex offenders register) for either 5 years if he gets a community order or 7 years if he gets a suspended sentence.

It is likely that he will also be made subject to a Sexual Harm Prevention Order (SHPO) for either 5 or 7 years. This order may include things like allowing police to view any of his devices at any time and not deleting any internet history etc.

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If a public figure of this much standing isn't given a stiff sentence for something this notorious, it's pretty much a greenlight to everyone else involved in such gruesomeness. 'Oh no worries, I won't get caught, but even if I do I'll not really do any Jail time'

Sod the poor innocent and wretched children involved.

westisbest1982 · 31/07/2024 15:44

Molly499 · 31/07/2024 15:33

Of course she Is not being sympathetic, she is just reporting FACTS, something that seems to have been missed or glossed over in some of these posts. The CRIME that he committed was not reporting the person who sent the illegal images, that is what he will be punished for. He specifically requested, multiple times, that he did not want to be sent anything illegal. He deleted the images straight away.

Please try and read facts.

No, he didn’t delete the images (41 of them). He viewed them and was charged and pleaded guilty to making indecent images of children.

PeonyBlushSuede · 31/07/2024 15:46

@CantDealwithChristmas

Thank you. It makes a lot of sense once I think about it like that. For example, if someone gave me a kilo bag of cocaine that I hadn't asked for, I should (and obvs would) just call the police about it. Not stash it away in my garage and ask the person to just try not to bring me any more.

I think this is a really helpful analogy and kind of sums it up.

He is 100% guilty, as per his plea, but not of some of the things people have suggested here

HRTQueen · 31/07/2024 15:49

its so tiresome innocent until proven guilty

complaints were made to the BBC about HE and was initially ignored, the BBC has since admitted fault and changed their policies. There was a police investigation. Category A images were found on his phone - these are images of children being sexually abused and we have since learned some images are of children under the age of 10

there is nothing innocent about this behaviour, he may have very good legal representation as he can afford to that will likely get him the least punishment I hope it is prison more likely if custodial a secure unit

He has used his mh issues to manipulate and disguise who he really is and that is a man who will deceive and manipulate anyone. A man who has no issue with the sharing of such cruel and violent images (who wouldn't go to the police)

There will be more to his story there always is

Charlize43 · 31/07/2024 15:49

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 15:41

I don't want to derail the thread but I am just reminded that Philip Schofield, another late bloomer suffering from mental health issues, did not inform the police when a young man informed him that he had been abused by Schofield's brother from (IIRC) the age of 13. It all came out during the trial.

Surely another one who should have gone to the police? There should be some legal ramifications for not reporting this kind of thing.

I agree.

I'm wondering if the man that sent Edwards this stuff wasn't the same young man that was being paid for explicit pictures of himself. That would explain why he didn't contact the police.

Does anyone know if it has been established who the sender was?

DysonSphere · 31/07/2024 15:51

Runnerinthenight · 31/07/2024 15:36

I wouldn't imagine they were bezzie mates... Most people wouldn't know where to start to look for someone who could share such images! I wonder if the sender knew who he was corresponding with.

His poor wife and family. They must be under such a cloud of shame, through no fault of their own. I hope the police are onto the lowlife who accessed the material, and that children can be rescued as a result.

I wonder does H.E. have Grandchildren?

This sort of thing affects all that. Grandchildren can't visit Granddad neither can child nieces, nephews or cousins.

The entire family is torn apart.

the80sweregreat · 31/07/2024 15:55

I'd hazard a big guess that the young man sending the vile pics is the same one who sent pics of himself , money exchanged hands and it was a lot of money too.
It is only speculation on my part though and from what I've read online / mumsnet but maybe more to come out regarding all of it and might be others involved too. Who knows?
The teens parents certainly knew about it , how did they find out?

Naunet · 31/07/2024 15:58

NoSnowdrop · 31/07/2024 15:17

Why say Savile is in the past? Have you any idea how lingering the damage from childhood abuse lasts?

This is why there’s a problem when people can be so dismissive when they’re rightly being questioned.

Indeed, suggesting Saville is ‘in the past’ when his victims are still alive and no doubt suffering, is so disgustingly dismissive of what they went through.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/07/2024 16:00

Complaints were made to the BBC about HE and was initially ignored, the BBC has since admitted fault and changed their policies

In other words "lessons will be learned" which is exactly what they tried to claim over Savile, so why on earth would anyone trust them to get it right when this inevitably happens again?

Over40Overdating · 31/07/2024 16:00

@Charlize43 I’ve just seen a tweet that said the sender was 21.

If that’s the case, something has gone very very wrong in that young man’s life a lot earlier than meeting HE. To be so blasé about that kind of content as a young person is almost beyond comprehension.

But I do think it’s a case in point about the impact porn has on people who access it online from a young age. Extreme acts become the norm. There’s also a large element of derealisation that comes from being exposed to it as it’s ’just’ people on a screen. Not real.

StasisMom · 31/07/2024 16:05

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 31/07/2024 13:41

“In future I think all high profile responsible jobs should be held by cockerpoos.”

Look, I don’t want to start this bun fight on a Wednesday afternoon but… Labradors, surely.

Nice light relief, I'm not being sarky! Any dogs (or animals) tbh. Sometimes, I really dislike humans.

Molly499 · 31/07/2024 16:06

Lampslights · 31/07/2024 14:45

It’s not that simple. He wasn’t just reviewing images, the two men were discussing each one. It was an ongoing chat on them/ and he only asked not to be sent images of kids as young as 7.

Are you privy to information that is not in the public domain? If not then you have a vivid imagination and are spreading incorrect information on here.

where does it say that they were discussing the images? Not in court documents or news reports.

I am not defending him but there are a lot of lies on here. We stick to facts.

butterbeansauce · 31/07/2024 16:07

You're being ridiculous. The BBC suspended him. At the time they did not have sufficient grounds to sack him as he hadn't been found guilty of any crime. If he had subsequently been found not guilty he could have sued them.

Contract law is not the same as moral outrage.

It's like footballers that start playing badly when they want to leave a club. You can't just sack them as they have a contract. We may not like it, and I don't but I think the BBC would have been in breach of contract if they had stopped paying him.

Obviously he should have resigned. But someone who lacks sufficient morals not to seek out photos of child abuse is unlikely to do the right thing.

Naunet · 31/07/2024 16:09

Molly499 · 31/07/2024 15:33

Of course she Is not being sympathetic, she is just reporting FACTS, something that seems to have been missed or glossed over in some of these posts. The CRIME that he committed was not reporting the person who sent the illegal images, that is what he will be punished for. He specifically requested, multiple times, that he did not want to be sent anything illegal. He deleted the images straight away.

Please try and read facts.

If you want to criticise others regarding facts, you might want to get your own correct first 🙄

CantDealwithChristmas · 31/07/2024 16:10

SerenityNowInsanityLater · 31/07/2024 13:41

“In future I think all high profile responsible jobs should be held by cockerpoos.”

Look, I don’t want to start this bun fight on a Wednesday afternoon but… Labradors, surely.

Hmmm. You make a fair point.

Poodles are ranked higher than Labradors for intelligence. Labradors however are highly compliant and love to please.

I would suggest that poodles should read the news and Labradors can be in charge of light entertainment.

@Lilysgoneshopping I propose that cats should be involved with the intelligence services, MI5 maybe.

Border Collies for the Government front bench.

King to be replaced by a corgi.

Free doggy treats and tax rebates on park walks for all.

StasisMom · 31/07/2024 16:13

RolyPolyJamSandwich · 31/07/2024 13:45

I think I'm more flabbergasted at how much these "stars" are being paid from our licence fee money. I'd happily never watch BBC ever again if I didn't have to pay the licence fee.
All he is, is a guy reading the news from a teleprompter. I'll happily dress up and read the news for half of what he was on... there ya go, BBC, I'll save you some money.

It's crazy when you think they're paid significantly more than the PM! I find this all saddening, not for his sake, definitely for the victims and also that yet again, someone has got away with a hideous secret whilst purporting to be a good person. I'm sorry for his family too.

Surely his mental health issues came about during the coming to light of him paying a teenager for photos, and the subsequent furore?! It cannot be used as mitigation for what has happened here. Frankly though, I don't give a shiny shit about his wellbeing.

Molly499 · 31/07/2024 16:13

Fluffyelephant · 31/07/2024 14:51

Where does it say this? Just wondering where the specifics of this are being reported as said different on BBC News.. but I guess BBC News would want to make it sound not quite so bad.

It does not say this anywhere, Lampslights has been making up lies all over this thread. The next post says - I hope he gets a lengthy prison sentence - if she had the facts she would know that a prison sentence is not appropriate for the crime.

It’s just shit stirring. He made a massive mistake in not reporting the first unsolicited image to the police, there is his crime, his life has been ruined so he has paid a price. He could well be a sleazeball with bad intentions but we will never know.

EsmaCannonball · 31/07/2024 16:16

I wonder if he sought out people who would send him this stuff so there would be an element of deniability? Paedophiles are very devious.