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Why are people dropping me like a hot potato? Is there something inherently wrong with me :(

93 replies

Chickenfriedriceismybestfriend · 29/07/2024 19:18

Have name changed for this but am a few years long user.
Just what the title says really 😢feels like no body bothers with me much any more. Friends, family etc. I feel there never any reciprocation, almost like if I didn't bother then I wouldn't see anyone iyswim. Dunno just making me feel a bit sad at the moment.

OP posts:
Sinderalla · 30/07/2024 04:23

Chickenfriedriceismybestfriend · 29/07/2024 19:41

Just to add for context, one or 2 friends/family have children but as there are mix of ages some are all grown up by now. Just feeling a bit sorry for myself I suppose, and a bit left out. Thanks for all your replies so far x

I get this. How I felt before children.

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 05:27

I think you should get some therapy. In most cases there is something unpleasant about someone but when you’re an adult no one is going to tell you you’re a pain in the ass, or you’re boring etc they just slowly distance.

autienotnaughty · 30/07/2024 05:32

I'm in my forties and I notice a huge change.

When I was in my twenties I would catch up with friends on the phone. We would see each other most weeks even once we were married with kids, there would be nights out but also hanging out in each others houses.

It just gradually declined from thirties onward, it became what's app groups instead of phone cals so now we are pretty disconnected from each other. I see my friends maybe 3/4 times a year. I've tried to make it more but in the end I just accept it.

Mairzydotes · 30/07/2024 07:44

I feel the same .

However, I'm often disregarded for someone who is seen as more popular ( even in adulthood) or for someone who can benefit others in some way.

I still find it hurtful.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 08:11

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 05:27

I think you should get some therapy. In most cases there is something unpleasant about someone but when you’re an adult no one is going to tell you you’re a pain in the ass, or you’re boring etc they just slowly distance.

So how’s your therapy going? 🙄

Grumpy12345 · 30/07/2024 08:28

I feel this way too OP. Some friends it’s impossible to tie down to a date to meet. They say they want to meet so I suggest some dates and then they ignore my messages! I think since covid some people just can’t be arsed to socialise much anymore. It’s like they think because they didn’t go out over lockdown then they feel they don’t need to anymore.

I’ve given up on those friends and instead spend time with those who do make the effort and I’ve also got out there and made some new friends too.

catmothertes1 · 30/07/2024 08:35

VirginiaGirl · 29/07/2024 20:33

‘I see people out enjoying themselves, and the invitations frequently seem to miss me.’

And I can relate to this, too. They have busy lives but then they pop up on Facebook with other friends, doing fun things.

The Facebook thing is a killer,when you've not been invited and here are your friends with some of your other friends having a lovely meal! I was a founding member of said friendship group but I've slowly become an outsider.

catmothertes1 · 30/07/2024 08:36

Mairzydotes · 30/07/2024 07:44

I feel the same .

However, I'm often disregarded for someone who is seen as more popular ( even in adulthood) or for someone who can benefit others in some way.

I still find it hurtful.

Same.

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:15

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 08:11

So how’s your therapy going? 🙄

😂Look I'm just giving an opinion. At least I'm offering some constructive advice that can be actioned.

PerkyMintDeer · 30/07/2024 09:16

Please don’t take this the wrong way OP.

Firstly it’s most likely that people are just busy and thoughtless, not that it’s an excuse and it isn’t hurtful.

But…if it’s happening on multiple levels maybe it’s something to do with your communication style that you’ve been unaware of?

One of my closest friends has recently ended up being cut off by quite a few people, even family members and she has no idea why. She’s really upset and was saying, “I can’t understand why this keeps happening and what I’ve done.”
And I’m sat there nodding and sympathising and making all the right noises and thinking I know exactly what it is and I’ve come really close to doing the same but won’t because I deeply care for you!

She’s completely unaware but since having kids and becoming a “crunchy mum”, she’s lost the ability to talk about anything that isn’t her or her kids. She never asks reciprocal questions. Quite serious things are happening in her friends’ and family’s worlds and she’ll say “how are you?” but doesn’t want the real response and will avoid talking about what’s going on in her friends’ lives.

I’ve been in a room with her where friend 1 was talking about their toddler needing a new bed but them not being able to afford one and friend 2 had just been made redundant but wasn’t eligible for redundancy pay so was worried sick about money (single mum with a mortgage) and within seconds, close friend said, “Well, I’ve been offered a huge promotion (at the same workplace where the redundancy happened ) and I’m going to treat myself to a Chanel bag with my first new wage. I deserve it!” I was sitting there thinking, “FFS read the room!” Unsurprisingly, those friends have been meeting up without her since and she can’t make the connection.

She’s completely unaware of how she comes across. It’s not done deliberately. She thinks by talking about herself and the kids all the time, she’s bonding with us but she’s actually alienating us because we’ll meet up, either one on one or in a group and she’ll dominate the conversation.

And completely forget the details of what’s going on in anyone’s life. “Oh yeah, your sister died, sorry baby brain I forgot! When’s the funeral? Oh it was last week…oh I’d have come if I’d have known as we got on so well…oh yes you’re right, you did text me and let me know…I’m just so busy these days with the kids I forget to reply…sorry. Did I tell you that Ginny won Star of the Week at Forest School? Yes, I have had to explain though to Gigi that we shine in different ways as it can be hard to see a sibling recognised and you can end up feeling overlooked so I made her a special Star of the Week for potty training at home to keep her emotionally regulated…”

She used to be really lovely and has no idea that everyone is just gradually getting more and more done with her. And it’s hard to say, “friend, we don’t enjoy socialising with you anymore. You’re acting in quite self absorbed ways and it’s hard to have a two way conversation. Please change your personality back to how you used to be.” It’s a bit like being friends with a YouTube Video that some vlogger has made…or a podcast. We’re just expected to sit and watch or listen. Then she’ll say, “I always ask how they are but they never really tell me much anymore”. Well yes…because when they do, she immediately changes the subject back to herself or she just doesn’t leave space for them to elaborate and share their real feelings.

She’s been blissfully unaware for about a year. It’s only now that multiple friends and family are distancing themselves that she’s starting to get upset and confused. But still totally unaware.

Again, not saying this is what may be going on for you…but do you think communication is going well generally when you do see them? Have you sensed any changes of atmosphere?

Or could it be something like lifestyle change? Kids at a different age? Income/lifestyle differences that are creating a wedge? Being bonded through a previous job or hobby and now not having as much in common? Them struggling with mental or physical health or money or a relationship?

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 09:27

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:15

😂Look I'm just giving an opinion. At least I'm offering some constructive advice that can be actioned.

Constructive?

Grumpy12345 · 30/07/2024 09:28

PerkyMintDeer · 30/07/2024 09:16

Please don’t take this the wrong way OP.

Firstly it’s most likely that people are just busy and thoughtless, not that it’s an excuse and it isn’t hurtful.

But…if it’s happening on multiple levels maybe it’s something to do with your communication style that you’ve been unaware of?

One of my closest friends has recently ended up being cut off by quite a few people, even family members and she has no idea why. She’s really upset and was saying, “I can’t understand why this keeps happening and what I’ve done.”
And I’m sat there nodding and sympathising and making all the right noises and thinking I know exactly what it is and I’ve come really close to doing the same but won’t because I deeply care for you!

She’s completely unaware but since having kids and becoming a “crunchy mum”, she’s lost the ability to talk about anything that isn’t her or her kids. She never asks reciprocal questions. Quite serious things are happening in her friends’ and family’s worlds and she’ll say “how are you?” but doesn’t want the real response and will avoid talking about what’s going on in her friends’ lives.

I’ve been in a room with her where friend 1 was talking about their toddler needing a new bed but them not being able to afford one and friend 2 had just been made redundant but wasn’t eligible for redundancy pay so was worried sick about money (single mum with a mortgage) and within seconds, close friend said, “Well, I’ve been offered a huge promotion (at the same workplace where the redundancy happened ) and I’m going to treat myself to a Chanel bag with my first new wage. I deserve it!” I was sitting there thinking, “FFS read the room!” Unsurprisingly, those friends have been meeting up without her since and she can’t make the connection.

She’s completely unaware of how she comes across. It’s not done deliberately. She thinks by talking about herself and the kids all the time, she’s bonding with us but she’s actually alienating us because we’ll meet up, either one on one or in a group and she’ll dominate the conversation.

And completely forget the details of what’s going on in anyone’s life. “Oh yeah, your sister died, sorry baby brain I forgot! When’s the funeral? Oh it was last week…oh I’d have come if I’d have known as we got on so well…oh yes you’re right, you did text me and let me know…I’m just so busy these days with the kids I forget to reply…sorry. Did I tell you that Ginny won Star of the Week at Forest School? Yes, I have had to explain though to Gigi that we shine in different ways as it can be hard to see a sibling recognised and you can end up feeling overlooked so I made her a special Star of the Week for potty training at home to keep her emotionally regulated…”

She used to be really lovely and has no idea that everyone is just gradually getting more and more done with her. And it’s hard to say, “friend, we don’t enjoy socialising with you anymore. You’re acting in quite self absorbed ways and it’s hard to have a two way conversation. Please change your personality back to how you used to be.” It’s a bit like being friends with a YouTube Video that some vlogger has made…or a podcast. We’re just expected to sit and watch or listen. Then she’ll say, “I always ask how they are but they never really tell me much anymore”. Well yes…because when they do, she immediately changes the subject back to herself or she just doesn’t leave space for them to elaborate and share their real feelings.

She’s been blissfully unaware for about a year. It’s only now that multiple friends and family are distancing themselves that she’s starting to get upset and confused. But still totally unaware.

Again, not saying this is what may be going on for you…but do you think communication is going well generally when you do see them? Have you sensed any changes of atmosphere?

Or could it be something like lifestyle change? Kids at a different age? Income/lifestyle differences that are creating a wedge? Being bonded through a previous job or hobby and now not having as much in common? Them struggling with mental or physical health or money or a relationship?

Edited

Why don’t you gently tell your friend what she’s doing wrong then?

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:28

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 09:27

Constructive?

Yes

Tagyoureit · 30/07/2024 09:32

Yep I feel the same.

My friends seem to have disappeared, though walking past the local pub and seeing a couple of them sat outside together was just lovely and I know they saw me but yet no invite to join them. I don't really bother with them now, just polite chit chat whenever we see each other but from those chats, I know there's been dinners, drinks etc all without me.

I've got family members that never seem to want to come to our house but will always go to other family members house who they forever bitch about so I gave up asking.

Fuck em, life's too short to be hung up on it, I was upset to begin with but there's nothing I can do so no point fretting over it.

stopthepigeonstopthepigeon · 30/07/2024 09:32

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:28

Yes

No

BibbleandSqwauk · 30/07/2024 09:33

Is it an age thing? I'm approaching 50 and have had a few conversations with similar aged friends and colleagues where we look back at even just a few years ago, we'd have big nights out, birthday drinks etc and now we all rarely feel like it... It's not a reflection of the friendship just our own energy levels, time available, lots of us are managing older parents, challenges from teen kids, divorced, single parenting etc.

PerkyMintDeer · 30/07/2024 09:37

Grumpy12345 · 30/07/2024 09:28

Why don’t you gently tell your friend what she’s doing wrong then?

I’ve had to have an open conversation with her last month about how we’re not as close and I’m finding it hard to communicate with her as she doesn’t seem to want to hear about my life. She profusely apologised, cried, said she didn’t want to lose me.

But instantly went back to the same problematic communication style. My OH witnessed her apologise in one breath then do exactly the same thing again and the moment she was out of earshot, said, “FFS she hasn’t got a clue has she?! You’d literally just told her then she did it again! It’s just who she is now, she can’t really be a good friend to anyone at the moment.”

There’s only so much anyone can do!

Lolatusernamesuggestions · 30/07/2024 09:39

I don't know the answer but I'm in a similar boat.
Tell you what, if you want to smile OP. Search pretty green eyes chicken fried rice into Google. It's bound to cheer you up.
There are some good articles about how friendships dwindle as you get older. I don't have the links.

Girasole02 · 30/07/2024 09:45

I'm in exactly the same position. I don't have any answers but just wanted to say that you aren't alone.

AquaFurball · 30/07/2024 09:45

Chickenfriedriceismybestfriend · 29/07/2024 19:18

Have name changed for this but am a few years long user.
Just what the title says really 😢feels like no body bothers with me much any more. Friends, family etc. I feel there never any reciprocation, almost like if I didn't bother then I wouldn't see anyone iyswim. Dunno just making me feel a bit sad at the moment.

Is there a local charity like an animal charity or Women's Aid you could volunteer with? Or a hobby you'd like to take up that would help you meet new like minded people?

Sometimes you just need to put those efforts into something that will make you feel better and add value to your life overall than feel rejected and outcast by existing relationships. Take back the power for your self esteem 💐

AlderGirl · 30/07/2024 09:46

Cookiecrumblepie · 30/07/2024 09:15

😂Look I'm just giving an opinion. At least I'm offering some constructive advice that can be actioned.

You’re really not.

Headingtowardsdivorce · 30/07/2024 09:48

It's really hard to say why without knowing you OP.

I sometimes feel like I wouldn't see certain friends unless I organise it, but then I remind myself that it's just a habit we've fallen into - I am the organiser.

However, like a pp, I also have a friend that a lot of mutual friends have backed off from, and I've thought about doing too. This friend is relentlessly negative, and for the 10 plus years I've known her has been moaning to me about the same things, yet she never takes any steps to fix her problems and I find her draining. All the advice would be to not let that sort of negativity into my life, but because I think she's a nice, kind person at heart I can't bring myself to dump her. Others have though, as I say.

KimberleyClark · 30/07/2024 09:52

juicydroppop · 29/07/2024 19:38

I understand how you feel, I've been there myself. But I agree with PPs that I genuinely think people are just so busy these days especially if they've got children

Just as long as they realise they can’t expect their friends to wait around for ever for them to be less busy if they are not prepared to put in even minimal effort.

Blink282 · 30/07/2024 09:55

I do think if it keeps happening with different people there is often something at the heart, like pp have said. Not necessarily anything WRONG with you OP but could life be taking you in different directions?
Are you at different life stages?
Do you have a tendency to be negative?
Different political views?
Vastly different incomes?
Could you be unwittingly self absorbed, as a previous poster has said?

It’s hard for any of us to say on here. I am sorry though, it feels rubbish to be on that side of it.

LameBorzoi · 30/07/2024 10:02

Chickenfriedriceismybestfriend · 29/07/2024 19:41

Just to add for context, one or 2 friends/family have children but as there are mix of ages some are all grown up by now. Just feeling a bit sorry for myself I suppose, and a bit left out. Thanks for all your replies so far x

A small point, but even teens can keep you super busy. Don't underestimate that part.

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