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Should kids be naked on a public beach

273 replies

YabaJaba · 26/07/2024 12:11

If so, at what age should they put a cossie on?

OP posts:
sixtyten · 26/07/2024 14:46

Neurodiversitydoctor · 26/07/2024 14:31

I actually think it's important that children do see other peoples genitals in appropriate enviroments so they know there is a huge range of normal and don't think the pornographic images which they wil be exposed to represent normality.

Good heavens. I can only speak for myself, but as a child I had no wish to see people's genitals whatsoever. They're called private parts for a reason, y'know?

CremeEggThief · 26/07/2024 14:48

Well my DS was in nappies til nearly 3 and I never changed him outside. The only place I ever changed him was on a changing mat on an inside floor (and nearly always in a separate room, as I don't think others should have to put up dirty nappies from any kids except your own either). I can't speak for anyone else obviously, but it wouldn't have even occurred to me to ever change him outside.

S1lverCandle · 26/07/2024 14:50

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 14:46

Good heavens. I can only speak for myself, but as a child I had no wish to see people's genitals whatsoever. They're called private parts for a reason, y'know?

Yeah, odd that it could be framed as a public service 😁

Neurodiversitydoctor · 26/07/2024 14:52

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 14:46

Good heavens. I can only speak for myself, but as a child I had no wish to see people's genitals whatsoever. They're called private parts for a reason, y'know?

Well horses for courses. My children spent a lot of time outdoors naked ( no not in tescos) my own parents rule was t- shirts on for meal times, but then went skinny dipping fairly frequently as a teen. My 2 are now adults and are both still fond of a naked swim when the opportunity presents itself. Nudity isn't always sexual. They are just bodies after all we all have one. Having said that DH's granny was a nudist so it's never been a big deal.

honestyISkind · 26/07/2024 14:53

S1lverCandle · 26/07/2024 14:50

Yeah, odd that it could be framed as a public service 😁

I personally think it's important that adults who think kids need to see adult genitals are kept away from children altogether.

I can't be arsed trying to find the original creepy comment to quote sorry.

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 14:54

Absolutely no from me! There are too many weirdos about so there is no way I would ever let my kids run about on a beach, unless they had swimming stuff on.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 26/07/2024 14:55

No - makes me feel uncomfortable - sunburn/getting sand in their privates/don't know who is looking etc/if theybare toilet training, l don't need to see any accidentd . But l know someone who posts pics of her kids naked on fb - when they grow up, l think they will resent her for that.

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 14:59

May09Bump · 26/07/2024 14:23

No - both my DS & DD wear sun protection tops / bottoms on the beach.

I'm not sure why they need to be naked especially with now known skin damage issues and smart phones.

I also wouldn't want them playing on the beach with naked kids either, for multiple reasons.

I caught a guy unsuccessfully hiding in bushes with a camera messing around with himself - he was next to a playground with water and kids were naked. Absolutely reported him there and then, went into the park and alerted parents. Really horrid and I had a newborn at the time, so no way would I every let them naked in public.

That’s absolutely awful 🤬 Sadly that’s the kind of thing that could happen and why I’d never allow mine to be anything but covered up at all times

AvrielFinch · 26/07/2024 15:03

@May09Bump where did this happen? Because in the UK you do not get a group of children naked at a water park.

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 15:03

I also hate seeing women topless on a beach. I cringe that they walk about with their boobs out without a care in the world. I don’t want my kids to see your breast thanks! Unless it’s to feed your baby not to top up your tan 🤢 unless it’s a specific naked beach then fine, but not a family beach!

WorriedMama12 · 26/07/2024 15:03

GonnaeNoDaeThatJustGonnaeNo · 26/07/2024 14:34

But we do.

I didn't say we don't....?

AvrielFinch · 26/07/2024 15:04

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 15:03

I also hate seeing women topless on a beach. I cringe that they walk about with their boobs out without a care in the world. I don’t want my kids to see your breast thanks! Unless it’s to feed your baby not to top up your tan 🤢 unless it’s a specific naked beach then fine, but not a family beach!

Your kids can cope with seeing women's breasts.

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 15:05

Neurodiversitydoctor · 26/07/2024 14:52

Well horses for courses. My children spent a lot of time outdoors naked ( no not in tescos) my own parents rule was t- shirts on for meal times, but then went skinny dipping fairly frequently as a teen. My 2 are now adults and are both still fond of a naked swim when the opportunity presents itself. Nudity isn't always sexual. They are just bodies after all we all have one. Having said that DH's granny was a nudist so it's never been a big deal.

It's lazy thinking to assume those who don't think people should be parading around naked think it's sexual. I certainly don't think it - just that there's a time and a place.

PianPianPiano · 26/07/2024 15:08

This thread is like something from Victoria times. All the shock and horror at the idea of a small child gasp ^naked in public.

Sprogonthetyne · 26/07/2024 15:16

If we're unexpectedly on a beach, I'd let them paddle in just pants and then go home commando, so I don't really see why anyone would need to be naked. But I'm not massively worried about covering them up when changing, until they're old enough to be worried themselves. My 4yo will strip off, then step into swimmers, flashing the whole beach in the process, whereas my 7yo prefers to change under a towel.

Mickey79 · 26/07/2024 15:17

Naked children on beaches wouldn’t bother me one bit.
I think a previous poster talking about how you can always tell the uk children by their full body suits is kind of missing an important point though. Uk weather is generally rubbish and the majority of white British people are, by nature pretty pale skinned. So more likely to burn, don’t spend months of the year in hot temperatures etc.

tuttuttutt · 26/07/2024 15:17

PianPianPiano · 26/07/2024 15:08

This thread is like something from Victoria times. All the shock and horror at the idea of a small child gasp ^naked in public.

No it's not. Many people have more sense now and realise perverts hide in plain site.

janeintheframe · 26/07/2024 15:18

MojoMoon · 26/07/2024 13:14

No - it is parents' "feelings" which are illogical.

Let's look at the reasoning being presented here:
What is the reason to not allow small children to be naked on a beach? Because you believe they are safer - safer from paedophiles and safer from sunburn and therefore skin cancer.

If your beliefs are correct, then Nordic kids must be less safe than your British kids - they are naked on a beach therefore they are more likely to suffer from skin cancer and be abused by paedophiles or appear in some sort of online child porn.

Is there any evidence to suggest Nordic children do suffer more from skin cancer or are more likely to be abused by paedophiles or are regularly appearing in online porn?

If there isn't any evidence of that, then clearly being naked on a beach isn't the deciding factor the safety of a child.

So it is perfectly reasonable to ask if you believe Nordic children are actually less safe and what evidence there is for that.

Feelings don't trump facts.

This is still illogical. To the Extent it is clear you’ve missed the point.

it is a parents decision if their child wears swimmers or not. Anywhere . Sweden, here, wherever;

there is no rule. No you habe to be naked in Sweden, or clothed in the uk.

so,feelings do matter, as they drive the parents decision. And it is, and always will be down to the individual parent,

ahoyhoyhoy · 26/07/2024 15:27

I grew up near the beach and have one memory of being around 7/8, my brother a year older, and my mum telling us to strip and walk to the beach showers, maybe 20 or so metres away from where we were, no towels. I was absolutely fucking mortified, as was my brother. I remember an old man smiling at me, he may have just been being sympathetic but I’d never known embarrassment like it, nor have I been so embarrassed since then.

Both of mine have been in costumes since day one. Partly because they’re so pale & fair I worry about their skin.

janeintheframe · 26/07/2024 15:34

ahoyhoyhoy · 26/07/2024 15:27

I grew up near the beach and have one memory of being around 7/8, my brother a year older, and my mum telling us to strip and walk to the beach showers, maybe 20 or so metres away from where we were, no towels. I was absolutely fucking mortified, as was my brother. I remember an old man smiling at me, he may have just been being sympathetic but I’d never known embarrassment like it, nor have I been so embarrassed since then.

Both of mine have been in costumes since day one. Partly because they’re so pale & fair I worry about their skin.

Jesus. I’m sorry, that’s horrible.

im stunned some posters are arguing kids should be naked, like it’s not a parents choice, odd, weird behaviour

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 26/07/2024 15:42

MidnightPatrol · 26/07/2024 12:26

Culturally normal for me too.

I don’t really worry about my child being naked on a beach - there are usually plenty of others, and I’ve never seen anything dodgy.

The British children are notable anywhere in the world because of their full body UV-suits and sun hats.

I wonder if we may have gone way too far in the opposite direction on sun protection. Yes you don’t want your child to get burnt, yes you need to keep them out of the midday sun, apply sunscreen etc… but they won’t combust if the sun touches their skin for a few minutes.

I’m a Brit and it’s normal for me too, for small children.

ClickClack300 · 26/07/2024 15:43

AvrielFinch · 26/07/2024 15:04

Your kids can cope with seeing women's breasts.

I don’t want them to, there is no need for my children to have to see women’s boobs for their own vanity reasons.

”Mum, why has that lady got her boobs out?” Would be the question my son would ask. It seems contradictory when we teach kids our bodies are our own and we keep them private…. Sends mixed messages.

orion678 · 26/07/2024 15:49

Shan5474 · 26/07/2024 14:22

Maybe the child themselves wouldn’t be harmed but surely just one person wanking over photos of your child is one too many??

This. I am not a prude about nudity, and I want to raise children who are comfortable with their own bodies and who do not view their genitalia or sexuality as shameful in any way. But I am also teaching them that their private parts are private and nobody has a right to see or touch them without consent. Allowing children to be exposed without their consent is a line I have drawn, whether it's (fully clothed) photos of them on social media or public nudity on a beach. Swimsuits don't reduce their freedom or enjoyment, but do protect them from predators (and sunburn!). And no, I don't think predators are around every single corner - to me the risk, while small, is too great when you consider the potential impact. My kids know that my priorities are their: safety, health, happiness, fun - in that order

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 15:56

”Mum, why has that lady got her boobs out?” Would be the question my son would ask. It seems contradictory when we teach kids our bodies are our own and we keep them private…. Sends mixed messages.

And this is EXACTLY why I think it's problematic, in a nutshell.

crackofdoom · 26/07/2024 15:57

Mickey79 · 26/07/2024 15:17

Naked children on beaches wouldn’t bother me one bit.
I think a previous poster talking about how you can always tell the uk children by their full body suits is kind of missing an important point though. Uk weather is generally rubbish and the majority of white British people are, by nature pretty pale skinned. So more likely to burn, don’t spend months of the year in hot temperatures etc.

No, I said you can always tell the tourist children by their body suits. We're in the UK. But one of the differences is that it's less usual for locals to go to the beach for the whole day. We'll go for a couple of hours, often in the evening when everyone else is going home. And because we're going all the time, we do not want to carry half of Tescos with us. A towel and a bottle of water if you're lucky 😆

It's good to expose your skin to the sun for short periods or outside the danger hours. There's a lot of Vitamin D deficiency in the UK, and researchers are starting to discover that UV exposure could possibly create beneficial compounds in the skin. (Again, without burning).