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Should kids be naked on a public beach

273 replies

YabaJaba · 26/07/2024 12:11

If so, at what age should they put a cossie on?

OP posts:
MojoMoon · 26/07/2024 13:14

janeintheframe · 26/07/2024 12:44

This is so illogical I had to read it twice. It doesn’t matter what rhe culture is elsewhere, it’s about the individual parents feelings.

and for me, no I wouldn’t have full nudity in public. In the uk or Sweden.

No - it is parents' "feelings" which are illogical.

Let's look at the reasoning being presented here:
What is the reason to not allow small children to be naked on a beach? Because you believe they are safer - safer from paedophiles and safer from sunburn and therefore skin cancer.

If your beliefs are correct, then Nordic kids must be less safe than your British kids - they are naked on a beach therefore they are more likely to suffer from skin cancer and be abused by paedophiles or appear in some sort of online child porn.

Is there any evidence to suggest Nordic children do suffer more from skin cancer or are more likely to be abused by paedophiles or are regularly appearing in online porn?

If there isn't any evidence of that, then clearly being naked on a beach isn't the deciding factor the safety of a child.

So it is perfectly reasonable to ask if you believe Nordic children are actually less safe and what evidence there is for that.

Feelings don't trump facts.

ModernHijabi · 26/07/2024 13:16

Covered up I think. My daughter has hair covered up when in public anyway so we're used to it.

AFlashOfLight · 26/07/2024 13:19

Blarn · 26/07/2024 12:19

With the AI apps that can transform a couple of pictures into other images and videos, no. It just is not worth the risk, no matter how small.

This doesn't make much sense. It's much easier to generate a fake photo than a fake video so if someone really did have nefarious intent with regards to you child, it would be easy to generate a fake naked photo, they wouldn't have to see the real thing.

honestyISkind · 26/07/2024 13:21

No.

Turophilic · 26/07/2024 13:24

From a sunburn point of view, it's smart to cover them up if they're in the sun for a long while. Otherwise, I wouldn't think twice about preschool children running around with bare bottoms.

I'm more bothered about keeping a hat on them at the beach than a nappy.

RobertSalamander · 26/07/2024 13:25

BuzzKiller · 26/07/2024 12:31

I’d like to say it’s ok- because when they’re babies and toddlers it shouldn’t be a problem at all.
But I have never let me dc be naked at the beach and it’s due to not knowing the intentions of other people about/ cameras.

I don’t understand what you mean? Babies can get sunburn and paedos like babies.

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 13:26

Sunsetcocktail · 26/07/2024 12:43

Honestly, I think things like this are why our kids are getting progressively more anxious. They can’t even run around naked on the beach anymore ‘in case’ something takes a photo and turns it into child pornography? I mean. Surely that’s just so very unlikely?

so many things kids can’t do now ‘in case’. It’s sad and unhealthy and is it really justified?

Yes.

Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 26/07/2024 13:27

Until about 3 or 4 I would think little of it, running around for a few minutes between clothes changes. For long periods I would worry about sun damage. I think other cultures are more relaxed about this. From 5 or 6 I would think no.

Greenlittecat · 26/07/2024 13:27

I wouldn't personally, but it wouldn't make me feel uncomfortable if other children were

IsaidIwouldBeStrong · 26/07/2024 13:27

No.

Lavender14 · 26/07/2024 13:27

Absolutely not. Anyone could take a photo of your child in the nip and distribute it. No good reason for them not to have a costume or trunks on now with all we know about safeguarding. A private back garden is one thing, a public space is totally different.

AvrielFinch · 26/07/2024 13:29

No children should wear full burkhas all the time in case a potential paedophile catches sight of them. Can't be too careful.

AvrielFinch · 26/07/2024 13:30

MojoMoon · 26/07/2024 13:14

No - it is parents' "feelings" which are illogical.

Let's look at the reasoning being presented here:
What is the reason to not allow small children to be naked on a beach? Because you believe they are safer - safer from paedophiles and safer from sunburn and therefore skin cancer.

If your beliefs are correct, then Nordic kids must be less safe than your British kids - they are naked on a beach therefore they are more likely to suffer from skin cancer and be abused by paedophiles or appear in some sort of online child porn.

Is there any evidence to suggest Nordic children do suffer more from skin cancer or are more likely to be abused by paedophiles or are regularly appearing in online porn?

If there isn't any evidence of that, then clearly being naked on a beach isn't the deciding factor the safety of a child.

So it is perfectly reasonable to ask if you believe Nordic children are actually less safe and what evidence there is for that.

Feelings don't trump facts.

Oh you and your facts!

WorriedMama12 · 26/07/2024 13:32

What a shame that we live in a world where innocent children can't run about naked on a beach.

AvrielFinch · 26/07/2024 13:33

Except innocent children can run naked around a beach.

Lwrenn · 26/07/2024 13:33

20, even 15 years ago I'd have never seen an issue. I'd have been of the mindset they're only little once, let them run free. Probably thought it was a bonkers thing to even think about tbh.
Now knowing that there are predators on every street corner, that the statics for how many paedophiles walk amongst us, I'd never allow my kids naked publicly.
It's sad, my grandmother had me mostly for my early years and I'm bare arsed in every picture she took, usually filthy in a garden or paddling pool. Great shame we can't afford to be so naive these days as to who could be watching.

Lots of children used to sleep in neighbours houses in tents in the gardens I remember, I was too young to join in but this was stopped from the community when a poor wee little girl was kidnapped and killed up in North Wales. It just didn't occur to adults back then until something terrifying made headlines, how easy it was for predators.

I think I'm so over cautious maybe my DC don't experience certain things I'd like them to have done but I will always choose being cautious over being sorry.

Heydiddlediddlethecatandthefiddle · 26/07/2024 13:33

Personally no. We were at a splash park the other day and my toddler (who is potty trained) was naked for a bit as his clothes got wet and all I had was a spare nappy in the bag so put that on him as just didn’t feel right for him to be running around naked. Constantly naked at home though!

NancyJoan · 26/07/2024 13:34

Nothing nicer than a sandy toddler pottering about with a spade in a sun hat and little else.

cocog · 26/07/2024 13:36

Unless it’s somewhere you yourself would be happy to be naked you should appropriately dress your child. The amount of people that prey on children I would not even undress mine without a towel round them if you were someone preying on children public beaches would be ideal. people seem slack with this IMO I wouldn’t want naked pics of my children appearing anywhere so in this day and age they are dressed when out in public. I also judge Others for this it’s lazy and slack and could potentially put them in great danger!

Rickrolypoly · 26/07/2024 13:39

MidnightPatrol · 26/07/2024 12:26

Culturally normal for me too.

I don’t really worry about my child being naked on a beach - there are usually plenty of others, and I’ve never seen anything dodgy.

The British children are notable anywhere in the world because of their full body UV-suits and sun hats.

I wonder if we may have gone way too far in the opposite direction on sun protection. Yes you don’t want your child to get burnt, yes you need to keep them out of the midday sun, apply sunscreen etc… but they won’t combust if the sun touches their skin for a few minutes.

lol- my little red head would combust in the sun after 10 mins.

to be honest, I cant imagine it would be comfortable for them to be on the beach naked due to sand getting in places and actually the sand can be hot too!
I just dont really see the need for kids to be fully naked?

PizzaPastaWine · 26/07/2024 13:41

I have no issue with it. Mine were regularly naked on beaches before the age of 4.

sixtyten · 26/07/2024 13:43

NancyJoan · 26/07/2024 13:34

Nothing nicer than a sandy toddler pottering about with a spade in a sun hat and little else.

Just as nice with a nappy on, surely?

MojoMoon · 26/07/2024 13:44

Also: children are most likely to be sexually abused or used in child pornography by their dad, step dad, grandfather, uncle, brother or cousin or any other male relative and the most common place for a child to be sexually abused is in their own home.

So - on a macro level - small children are actually safer naked on a beach than naked at home.

KnittedCardi · 26/07/2024 13:45

My babies were often naked on beaches in Italy. But then, that's normal. They generally wore just a hat, sometimes just little frilly bottoms. Never got burnt, because, you know, you out sunscreen on and don't leave them out all day! Continued to wear just bottoms only from 3-9. Bikinis from 9.

Bbq1 · 26/07/2024 13:45

YabaJaba · 26/07/2024 12:50

@K0OLA1D stupid response

Agreed
Posters always come on saying "don't look," don't watch" but it's an absolutely ridiculous response.