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AIBU?

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To stop my kids dad's new GF take my kids for the day

115 replies

Sunsparkles · 25/07/2024 15:28

My ex has a new GF, been together approx 4.5 months. Our kids (both under 10yrs) have met her a few times and she has stayed over at his and they have stayed over once with their dad at hers. He will soon be moving in with her and the kids will visit there on his weekends.

He intends to let her take our kids to a theme park tomorrow without him.

I have said categorically no to this. AIBU?

OP posts:
Craftycariad · 26/07/2024 18:13

2sisters · 25/07/2024 18:19

Your ex is an idiot. What sort of dickhead introduced his kids to a new GF and moved in after 4 months. He really doesn't have your kids best interests at heart and is only thinking with his prick. Unfortunately, I don't think theirs a huge amount you can do about it if it's his contact time.

Well this idiot did exactly that 37 years ago, and we are very happily married and have 17 grand children and a host of great grand children. Some times we as parents make the right decision for us and not for others around us. You trusted his judgement enough to have a child with him. Trust he wants the best for them now too and realizes they will thoroughly enjoy the theme park

2sisters · 26/07/2024 18:43

Craftycariad · 26/07/2024 18:13

Well this idiot did exactly that 37 years ago, and we are very happily married and have 17 grand children and a host of great grand children. Some times we as parents make the right decision for us and not for others around us. You trusted his judgement enough to have a child with him. Trust he wants the best for them now too and realizes they will thoroughly enjoy the theme park

He's on his 8th or 9th gf the kids have met in the last 2.5yrs, the 4th he has been going to move in with. He's an irresponsible prick. With incredibly bad judgement.

I'm glad it worked out for you but hasn't worked out for him the last 9 GF he introduced to his kids to nor has he learnt anything because he continues to introduce his kids to people he's known for minutes. I had mouldy food in my fridge longer than his relationship last. His kids emotional wellbeing should come before his penis.

Annierob · 26/07/2024 19:38

It would be a no from me. I am divorced and was furious when the gf took my son out for the day. The dad takes or at least is with them or my son stays with me. Children are not toys.

HennyPenny23 · 26/07/2024 19:45

Didsomeonesaydogs · 25/07/2024 16:33

Surely the purpose of his parenting time is so that the kids get to spend time with their dad? Not some random woman he met a few weeks ago that he’s just offloading his obligations onto.

I’d be really miffed too!

Is there any “right of first refusal” written into your parenting/custody plan?

I’m not sure that the ‘purpose’ of the parenting time is to spend time with their Dad. If two parents are dividing their time, it’s very likely that either parent has to work and arrange childcare if required on their days. It is up to the individual parent to make the choice. The other parent has no right of veto, whether they plan to use e.g a childminder, relative or friend. The other parent doesn’t even have to tell you. If you have any safeguarding concerns that is a different matter, but assuming you haven’t, difficult as it is there is nothing you can do. Rather than saying you will refuse to ‘allow’ this - maybe ask if you can meet her so you can put your mind at rest? Otherwise enjoy your day ‘off’

Beezknees · 26/07/2024 19:49

It's not your choice.

I absolutely understand why you wouldn't be happy with it but either he is fit to look after the children (in which case you have to trust his judgment when they are with him) or he is not fit to look after them, in which case you need to go to court to prevent unsupervised contact.

pollymere · 26/07/2024 20:42

I'd be asking about parental responsibility if there was an accident... Otherwise, Unfortunately, it's up to him.

Lollipop81 · 26/07/2024 20:50

I don’t care whose day it is my kids wouldn’t be going off with someone on their own when their dad had only known her 4 months. Just no. They wouldn’t be going anywhere on their own if it was my boyfriend who id been with for 4 months either. Not that I would even be introducing them at that stage anyway.
you don’t just give up being a parent because it’s not your day. Put your foot down and say no. Ignore some of the idiotic comments on here about jealousy and you should think yourself lucky she wants to take them. Trust your instincts.

Lollipop81 · 26/07/2024 20:53

as he is your stepson I am assuming you were together longer than 4 months when you started taking him swimming. That is the issue here, the short amount of time he has known her

11oclockrock · 26/07/2024 21:21

I feel very sorry for these children who've been introduced to girlfriend after girlfriend. This is very destabilising for them. They will eventually realise their dad doesn't GAF about them 😔

Sprogonthetyne · 26/07/2024 21:39

Whilst I wouldn't be thrilled, if it's on his time, it's his call. He doesn't get to dictate who you might have watch the kids during your time, and you shouldn't on his.

Kag13 · 26/07/2024 22:11

Family lawyer’s input here -

Dads contact time is for the Dad and the children - they are not able to ’just leave them with anyone they choose’ as some posters have (incorrectly) said.

if they do, highly possible that Mum will stop agreeing to contact. If he has to go to court to sort things out he will be lucky to get a court date for months. Much better for him to agree sensibly with you when and by whom your children will be cared for.

New relationship - generally six months at least, although of course every case is different.

Hope that’s helpful.

littleorchard45 · 26/07/2024 22:23

I’m the new woman. Or I was 14 years ago. My (now) husband didn’t leave his wife for me btw. I have a fantastic relationship with my stepkids and would do anything for them. Don’t mistake genuine caring for anything else.

HanaLou · 27/07/2024 10:05

Kag13 · 26/07/2024 22:11

Family lawyer’s input here -

Dads contact time is for the Dad and the children - they are not able to ’just leave them with anyone they choose’ as some posters have (incorrectly) said.

if they do, highly possible that Mum will stop agreeing to contact. If he has to go to court to sort things out he will be lucky to get a court date for months. Much better for him to agree sensibly with you when and by whom your children will be cared for.

New relationship - generally six months at least, although of course every case is different.

Hope that’s helpful.

Edited

Interesting, absolutely not what my barrister advised.
Very much, ‘he is a responsible adult and unless deemed otherwise has the capacity to make decisions (as I have), about who cares for the DC’s’.

The only impact is on maintenance. If he leaves them elsewhere ( in my case with his elderly DM) those nights are not included in his ‘overnight care’ and his payments are worked out accordingly.

Jumblebum · 27/07/2024 11:36

Kag13 · 26/07/2024 22:11

Family lawyer’s input here -

Dads contact time is for the Dad and the children - they are not able to ’just leave them with anyone they choose’ as some posters have (incorrectly) said.

if they do, highly possible that Mum will stop agreeing to contact. If he has to go to court to sort things out he will be lucky to get a court date for months. Much better for him to agree sensibly with you when and by whom your children will be cared for.

New relationship - generally six months at least, although of course every case is different.

Hope that’s helpful.

Edited

This just isn't that case in the family law cases I know about. He has parental responsibility and an established (informal) contact pattern. There have been no reported concerns about his parenting. In my experience a good solicitor would recommend mediation but ultimately let her know that a sheriff would be likely formalise his contact time not remove it.

GreatScroller · 11/11/2024 06:38

You are not being unreasonable! I can’t believe anyone would think you were. I wouldn’t let anyone I barely know look after my kids and your ex has only known her 4 months. If they were serious after about a year or so then yeah. You’re not some crazy jealous ex because of that

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