To ask why TA’s in uk are paid so little compared to Irish counterparts?

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Just as the title says…SNA’s in Ireland are paid a starting salary of over 27k. Why are they only receiving 12-15k in the uk!! It’s terrible!

They’re paid 27k for working 25 hours a week?

Yes

Isn’t the role more specialised in Ireland? As in, they are there to provide specific SEN support and presumably have the skills, qualifications and training they need? Compared with a TA1 or 2 who is paid peanuts here but may be expected to provide a very high level of support to individual children for £13 per hour and no job security.

How much do teachers get then?
That seems very high for a term time job.
Is that maybe the full time equivalent?

What does SNA stand for? Special needs assistant?

They start at circa 40k

Yes.👍

Do they need qualifications?

Where have you got the information from? Surely that's FTE?

I think maybe up to 32 hours per week

No that’s the full pay plus 8% accrued holiday pay for summer etc.

https://progressivecollege.ie/how-to-become-an-sna/#:~:text=Currently%2C%20students%20who%20wish%20to,Certificate%20or%20relevant%20work%20experiences.

They need a level 3 qualification on the National Framework of Qualifications, OR.
A minimum of three grade Ds in the Junior Certificate (gcse equivalent)

Teachers aren't paid much more than that in the UK - starting salary is £30k, plus the hours are much longer and obviously a teaching qualification is required.

But as to why, many public sector employees in the UK have never been well paid and the Conservative government spent 14 years making it much worse than it ever was.

Teachers In Ireland are paid a starting salary of over 40k…that’s 25hours contact time for 195 days a year

I've tried finding online adverts to have a look as it's just so much higher than the UK but didn't have much luck.
I do wonder if it's FTE though as here that would be £23k for a level 2 and £23.8k -£25k for a level 3 which would be much nearer.
But as stated above teachers start on 30k and that's for 32.5 hrs whereas you state in Ireland it's 40k for 25hrs so perhaps wages are just generally higher in Ireland, is cost of living also higher?
Who covers the rest of the school day if they only paid for 25 or are children in school less?

The school day is 4hrs 40mins for the (children) the teacher uses that extra hour to plan etc for the first two years and then 5hr 40mins after that. Paid childcare/afterschool is an option for after those hours.

It’s not FTE.

From the scales I posted out depends on when you started the job. Pre 2011 is 27k and post is 25k

Because Ireland values education and the professionals that work within it much more than the U.K.

It’s not just as simple as being paid more. Firstly 25,000 euros is just over £21k.
Then there’s the fact that cost of living in Ireland is more expensive then say England specifically.
So the difference in terms of spending power is lower again in Ireland.
In reality it’s not the huge crazy difference you’re making out.

Are those actual wages or wages before pro-rata

Can you link to an actual advert? Where I work a payscale would also look like that but would be adjusted for hours and term time.
Hadn't realised you were quoting figures in euros so its more like 22k in sterling?

Ireland is just much much richer than the U.K.. It has a GDP per capita that is more than double that of the U.K. and higher even than Switzerland.

For Ireland, €27k isn't a great salary. And anyone starting out would be hired post-2011, so it would take them two years to reach that point. The actual starting salary is €25k.

The UK also includes Scotland by the way- in Scotland probationer teachers are on 32k (reduced contact time for more training and prep) then first fully qualified year is 38k, rising to 48k top scale. I'm sure our classroom assistants are around 23k, pupil support assistants around 25/26k.

Hopefully the new government will value English education more and pay staff what they're worth.