Greater Manchester Police brutality

[Gummybear23]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/24/armed-police-officer-filmed-kicking-man-in-face-at-manchester-airport

Sickening behaviour. Surely tasering the man is enough.
He is on the floor tasered so you give him some kickings to the head?

Hope this is properly investigated.
Greater Manchester Police have an awful reputation.

This is just musing, but I wondered if the officer reacted as he did because female officers had been so brutally assaulted. Did it trigger him in a way that it might not have if it had been male colleagues?

I’m probably talking crap, so will go to bed!

I think the word you’re looking for is incomprehensible, @Gummybear23

Do they have guns?

In the U.S. they shoot first, make excuses second and are tried for murder third — or are sometimes rewarded for killing the innocents.

A large police officers association just recently endorsed Trump for president - after his supporters attacked police officers at the U.S. Capital building.
I despair.

Could you just confirm , as in quote your source, that the cyst was caused by the police officer's kick.

I don't deny he has a cyst but I haven't found proof it was caused by the kick as you claim it does.

Skyler has already decided the officer is guilty. Lots of claims and assumptions with little substance.

@JacquesHarlow makes some really good points that seem to be from an informed perspective.

It always amuses me how much some Mumsnetters hate the police.

Can't believe do many are trying to defend or make excuses for these "victims" who violently assaulted the police.
The only mistake the police made was drawing their tasers rather than their firearms and putting these violent thugs down.
I think every police officer in Manchester to walk out until the suspended officer is reinstated.
If a police officer is carrying a loaded firearm, someone physically attacking them could mean that person is trying to steal the weapon and use it against either the officers themselves, or other members if the public. That is a massive risk that needs to be neutralised by any means. These thugs are lucky the police showed so much restraint that they are crying over a kick to the head when the police wear fully in their rights to shoot them dead.

Play stupid games - win stupid prizes.

These men were clearly resisting arrest. They had been involved in a violent altercation earlier at the airport.
They resisted arrest. Assaulted officers. Firearms officers at that. What choice did the police have but to go in hard? The bloke who was kicked was trying to get up after being tasered. He had already downed an officer. The police had every reason to believe he would try again. The consequences of which could be disastrous.
This isn't some unprovoked attack on an innocent civilian. This is keeping a dangerous man under control in a volatile situation.

You don't fuck about around armed offers. You do as your told and stay on the floor. You can protest your innocence later

Nobody's trained to get the shit kicked out of them. What planet are people on.

No a suspect at that point, clearly an attempted murderer

Yes he's in the right, If he'd have gotten up again that officer might have lost his life.

These guys need to be locked up for life because they're a serious danger to the public.

The only people that officer is a danger to is people who dish out serious harm on officers, and it looks like attempted murder from where I'm standing

If he doesn't get let off we may as well hand this country over to the criminals and have done with it.

So sick of this nonsense. Don't go around attempting to seriously injure or kill police and then play the victim.

So according to the GMP website they are investigating 3 incidents at the airport. An altercation on a flight and/or luggage arrivals then, a violent altercation between the public at 8.22pm at Starbucks and then the incident involving the Police at 8.28pm. The two men attacked the officers straight away their first reaction is violence. I hope that there is CCTV for the other incidents and that the officers recover quickly from their injuries.

When I saw the initial footage that was released I thought the officers actions were completely out of line. Then I saw the lead up to it and that the male suspect had just viciously attacked two women, one of which was cowed over at the time, trying to protect herself as he went after her to punch her in the face for a second time. I’m not surprised the policeman reacted. I think it would take super human control not to.

Also, the woman who started this all off by getting into an argument and then deciding to set her 2 grown up sons onto the person she was having an argument with needs to think about the consequences of her actions.

Those poor police officers. Just look at the level of violence used on the police. How are these men claiming to be victims and the public being sucked in. They are looking for big compensation. Oh and that solicitor of theirs, claiming it was an assination attempt, he is so dodgy.

CakeorWine

What was said just before the violent man pummelled the officer?

What i saw was two officers coming up behind him, grabbing and manhandling him, him struggling, two more cops coming from the right, the other bloke waded in and there was a general melee.

The first cops seemed to make no attempt to do anything but grip him. Some people might submit meekly to someone trying to get them in a stranglehold from behind, but plenty won't.

I agreed already that he reacted badly, but it was a very human reaction.

If that police officer was my husband, and he was punched to the ground along with his two fellow officers. I would expect him to do anything and everything he could to protect the life of himself, his fellow officers and the general public.

Once that violent thug was on the ground he would need to make absolutely certain that he wasn't going to get up and have another go.

Next time maybe they should use the guns that were provided for just such an occasion. That way they will avoid all this criticism from keyboard warriors who would probably run away under such circumstances.

Unbelievable what some people expect the police to endure. At some point, when violently assaulted, at risk of having your weapon stolen, fearing for your life, human nature and self preservation kicks in. If you don't want to risk being kicked by a policeman, don't attack armed police at an airport.

And of course all the mobile footage immediately put into the public domain was edited to focus on the kick. I can't imagine witnessing that and my takeaway being 'police brutality.' If I was at the airport with my family and a pair of violent thugs were attacking armed police, I'd be pleased they'd been subdued and wouldn't care how really. And now protestors, despite the fact that the officer is suspended and under investigation.

What I still find fascinating is how many people on this thread want to introduce completely unsubstantiated stuff , to try and indict the officer(s) who were fighting to gain control over highly violent suspects who had attacked them and heavily injured a fellow officer.

here’s some examples of the unsubstantiated stuff:

“ I can understand why they retaliated”

”loss of control”

”police cannot be judge and jury”

“the suspect said something before he kicked their face”

etc..

All these comments do is introduce confusion and doubt, adding completely unsubstantiated character accusations to portray the policeman as an out of control, vindictive person who reacted to something completely unheard or unseen on the tape, but the Mumsnetter wants to join the dots and create a “motive”.

It is like the Jay Slater case ended, and so all the “I know more than you” types have piled in here instead.

Please stop. NOT EVERYTHING IS A GAME OR A CONSPIRACY.

As l have said since page 1 of this thread and since before the new footage came out, these police were overwhelmed in number and trying to restrain a set of highly violent and continually aggressive suspects who had assaulted officers from behind and broken the nose of a female officer.

The Taser is not a “stun gun” where the person miraculously falls asleep the minute they come into contact with it. This is not Star Trek.

i wish we could just wait until the inquiry - clearly someone sympathetic to the police has release this new video for the very reason that the officer was being tried in the court of public opinion on the basis of an abridged clip with NO context.

How can anyone side with those men who attacked the police? Do you not realise that the police are humans who are doing an insane job to protect you? In my opinion, he showed an incredible amount of restraint that I do not have. It's easy to feel morally smug all safe at home, tapping your keyboards.

Absolute scumbags, fair play to the Police Officers.

I think its fortunate that proper investigators will be examining all evidence, including the CCT and mobile videos, plus hopefully bodycams, instead of guilt or innocence being decided by the online kangaroo court who see different things in videos depending which side they are on.

And that hopefully any convictions of anyone involved are not damaged by the online speculation. (Including the bits that apparently happened inside the airport or on the plane)

The level of violence the police have to contend with is pretty shocking. Police officers have died, no I don’t generally have much time for the police, I think quite a few shouldn’t be doing the job.

But people are very dismissive. I had a member of the police in my family, his wife was fucking terrified when he was called out for riot/crowd control. They have shit thrown at them, they are attacked etc. I mean the complete lack of sympathy shown here is quite sad really. They need to protect themselves and the public from exactly these types of people who use violence like it’s nothing.

I don’t understand why everyone is surprised that there’s yet another case of police brutality.

Has anyone actually spoken to police men ? They are usually not the smartest and often have a certain swagger. They are night club bouncers with badges and the police force has been proven to be racist and misogynistic.

So why everyone is surprised that another white police man is violently kicking another brown man is a mystery to me.

Perhaps a wider conversation needs to be had about paying them properly so that the force can attract a better standard of people.

Perhaps a wider conversation can be had about how to properly discuss and analyse a serious incident where police have broken bones and are overwhelmed by extremely violent attackers, so that this forum can attract a better standard of people @runrabbitruns