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Neighbours have thrown my fence into my garden and caused damage

130 replies

RedLollyYellowLolly0 · 23/07/2024 11:15

Obviously I’m not happy.
we’ve been having work done and converted the garage- extending it at single storey- this bit will now be what replaces the fence that was there (which they have thrown over damaging some pots which are on the other side)

the wooden fence that was the boundry was pushed back onto their property so my my builder could make the wall

AIBU to ask them to reimburse me for the damaged pots? From my POV the only thing I can see is that maybe they were unhappy about the surplus to requirements fence being there for a couple of weeks
?

OP posts:
Investinmyself · 23/07/2024 13:33

I’d just talk to them. Pop over and say the builders had told you they wanted a temp fence for dogs, sorry if been any misunderstanding. The project is due to finish on x date and the boundary will be secure then with a wall. Do they want their fence or should you dispose of it? Thank them for patience with noise/dust etc.

socks1107 · 23/07/2024 13:35

You left your old fence in their garden for a few weeks. Yabu.
Throw the pots away and keep your own rubbish your side in future

Hankunamatata · 23/07/2024 13:40

You need to be super nice to them and get a party wall agreement or house sales prob will fall through

Rosscameasdoody · 23/07/2024 13:56

Hankunamatata · 23/07/2024 13:40

You need to be super nice to them and get a party wall agreement or house sales prob will fall through

If there’s no agreement at the time of sale, their conveyancing solicitor can obtain aParty Wall Act indemnity policy, also known as Party Wall insurance. It’s a type of legal indemnity insurance designed to protect property owners in situations where previous work affecting a party wall was not carried out in full compliance with the Party Wall Act.

labamba007 · 23/07/2024 13:59

I refused when my neighbour asked to do this and they had no right to use a wall to replace the fence. They didn't get the party wall agreement. I'd be very careful if I were you as they could easily get you to knock it all down. Flowers and chocolates will help!

PomPomSugar · 23/07/2024 14:03

No Party Wall Agreement is required! Please stop scaremongering.

I also wish people would stop thinking that Indemnity Policies magically fix everything.

gamerchick · 23/07/2024 14:12

It was probably the last straw on their nerves. This sort of disruption is a massive headache to the neighbours, those building never seem to give a shit that they're doing their neighbours head in. No I wouldn't seek compensation if you want some sort of relationship with them once you've stopped the noise

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/07/2024 14:23

I'd go and speak to them. You'll not really get constructive comments here as half the posters are determined to wilfully misinterpret what you've said to declare you a CF.

If the construction currently means that their garden is not secure for their dogs, I would definitely go and ask what they want you to do, as dogs getting loose is a real catalyst for neighbour disputes and aggro!

beccaskylar · 23/07/2024 14:43

RedLollyYellowLolly0 · 23/07/2024 12:35

Sorry for the bad sketch

Aw mate sounds like you fucked up a bit!

stichguru · 23/07/2024 14:45

Your builder should have remove the fence properly - not left it on their property. Your builder is telling fibs - 1) the builder should not be leaving rubbish in any garden. 2) If he has to e.g. all the materials are already at the site and he comes in his car not his van, and then is left with something too big to remove in his car, he should be leaving them in YOUR garden, not the neighbours.

If the fences were left somewhere that precarious, better they should fall on your plants than the neighbours' dogs.

If you really think the builder is to blame then talk to him, but as for the neighbours, count yourself lucky that your building work only caused you to have to replace a few pots, not pay enormous vet bills!

Superhansrantowindsor · 23/07/2024 14:47

YABU
not surprised the neighbours did this. I call reverse and if it is then you are even more unreasonable for starting a reverse.

Dreamingofgoldfinchlane · 23/07/2024 14:58

RedLollyYellowLolly0 · 23/07/2024 11:57

Yes.
i will do this soon when the build and the noise is over.

Why not do it now and offer your neighbour compensation for the problems you've caused already

Easipeelerie · 23/07/2024 15:06

Did you personally (not just via your builder) have their agreement to keeping your old fence on their land for the time it’s been there?
If yes - they’re in the wrong.
If no - you’re in the wrong.

BitOutOfPractice · 23/07/2024 15:11

The very LAST thing you want to start is a neighbour dispute over a few pots if you are planning on selling soon, especially after you've disrupted their lives with your building work.

Mind you that'll be the leat of your worries if your paperwork for the extension isn't all AOK

Daphnis156 · 23/07/2024 15:18

Of course you are 100% right- and you should ask for a contribution towards your extension as this too will improve their lives.

Pookerrod · 23/07/2024 15:50

Another2Cats · 23/07/2024 12:54

"Any building work within 3 metres of next door's boundary requires a party wall agreement."

This isn't correct. The 3 metre thing comes into play if you are digging foundations within 3m of an adjoining property (not the boundary, unless the boundary is a party wall) AND your foundations will be deeper than the foundations of the adjoining property.

OP, I suggest you take a read of the Party Wall Act guidance….

Rather than asking your neighbour to compensate you for your broken pots, I think you should be compensating them for their fence.

Neighbours have thrown my fence into my garden and caused damage
Neighbours have thrown my fence into my garden and caused damage
Pookerrod · 23/07/2024 15:51

Pookerrod · 23/07/2024 15:50

OP, I suggest you take a read of the Party Wall Act guidance….

Rather than asking your neighbour to compensate you for your broken pots, I think you should be compensating them for their fence.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/preventing-and-resolving-disputes-in-relation-to-party-walls/the-party-wall-etc-act-1996-explanatory-booklet

Rosscameasdoody · 23/07/2024 16:08

PomPomSugar · 23/07/2024 14:03

No Party Wall Agreement is required! Please stop scaremongering.

I also wish people would stop thinking that Indemnity Policies magically fix everything.

I posted about an indemnity policy from recent experience. We required two - and one was for an extension not done strictly in line with the Party Wall Act. Not saying it’s a magic fix but it solved things for us.

raspberryberet7 · 23/07/2024 16:19

S1lverCandle · 23/07/2024 11:17

Why didn't you store the redundant fence on your own property?!
You had no right to park it in their garden.

First poster nails it again

INeedAnotherName · 23/07/2024 16:37

and he rebuilt it with about 6 new posts and created a box which went o to their land only by about 2 foot - this allowed us to build the wall

You annexed a portion of their land to build your extension? Good grief 😮 No wonder they threw the fence back.

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/07/2024 16:43

INeedAnotherName · 23/07/2024 16:37

and he rebuilt it with about 6 new posts and created a box which went o to their land only by about 2 foot - this allowed us to build the wall

You annexed a portion of their land to build your extension? Good grief 😮 No wonder they threw the fence back.

Edited

... they moved the fence, temporarily to avoid the neighbours free-roaming dogs escaping through the no longer secure proper boundary.

With the agreement of the neighbour.

So yes, I can understand the OP's confusion as to why the fence has been taken down and chucked over - unless the boundary IS now secure as far as the neighbour is concerned.

I can see misunderstanding occurring there - my dogs would need a 6ft fence to stay my side of it. So I would welcome a temporary fence preventing their escape until the building work is pretty much complete, to the new wall.

However if this neighbours dogs only need a 2ft fence to remain secure... they may consider the need for the temporary fence to be over, and irritated that it is still there...

Boomer55 · 23/07/2024 16:48

INeedAnotherName · 23/07/2024 16:37

and he rebuilt it with about 6 new posts and created a box which went o to their land only by about 2 foot - this allowed us to build the wall

You annexed a portion of their land to build your extension? Good grief 😮 No wonder they threw the fence back.

Edited

This. 🙄

JollyPinkFox · 23/07/2024 16:50

Asking them for money?! You’re nuts. Try apologising for the inconvenience

Another2Cats · 23/07/2024 19:43

Rosscameasdoody · 23/07/2024 16:08

I posted about an indemnity policy from recent experience. We required two - and one was for an extension not done strictly in line with the Party Wall Act. Not saying it’s a magic fix but it solved things for us.

"We required two - and one was for an extension not done strictly in line with the Party Wall Act."

Wow! You sound exactly like the sort of person I would avoid.

You do understand that the Party Wall Act only applies before any relevant work has been completed?

CaptainMyCaptain · 23/07/2024 19:45

S1lverCandle · 23/07/2024 11:17

Why didn't you store the redundant fence on your own property?!
You had no right to park it in their garden.

Yes, this.