Neighbours have thrown my fence into my garden and caused damage

[RedLollyYellowLolly0]

Obviously I’m not happy.
we’ve been having work done and converted the garage- extending it at single storey- this bit will now be what replaces the fence that was there (which they have thrown over damaging some pots which are on the other side)

the wooden fence that was the boundry was pushed back onto their property so my my builder could make the wall

AIBU to ask them to reimburse me for the damaged pots? From my POV the only thing I can see is that maybe they were unhappy about the surplus to requirements fence being there for a couple of weeks
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Is the work being carried out within a metre of the boundary? If so why wasn’t this covered in the party wall agreement?

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I didn’t know this
thank you for letting me know
I will of course apologise to the neighbour

We did this so that their dogs would be safe!!

Party Wall depends on where the OP lives.

It's a legal requirement to issue a party wall agreement, op. You're not supposed to start building work without one.
Your builder sounds like a proper clown.

If you don't speak directly to the neighbours yourself to explain why your items/rubbish is in their garden, I would assume they had disposed of your fly tipping rubbish and glad they didn't report me.

@RedLollyYellowLolly0 at the time I posted you had not mentioned the dogs...

It all sounds a bit of a shit show. If they are otherwise reasonable, then just apologise for leaving the posts there longer than necessary and move on.

Only England and Wales.

https://www.gov.uk/party-walls-building-works

The tatty fence was partly used with some extra posts that my builder constructed then this was pushed over onto their land temporarily until the wall was built to ensure their dogs were safe. The neighbour was very happy with this -it was well built and replaced what was pretty rubbish and wobbly

the wall is over half way built but the builder was keeping the fence their until the extension was complete.

i do not want to upset the neighbours
thank you for your viewpoints. Perhaps my builder didn’t fully explain which I am a little concerned about now.

What do you actually mean when you say "I pushed over the old fence"?

I suspect there's an issue with communicating in a way that is understood by the majority - including with your neighbours.

I really don't understand any of what has happened here! Maybe I am just slow today but I can't work out what fence has been chucked where and why.

She pushed her fence into the neighbours garden to make room for some building work and then objected when the neighbours shoved it back

Are you somehow the same poster as redlorryyellowlorryredlorryyellowlorry who also seems to have upset their neighbour?

Clear it up, say nothing and maybe pop over with flowers/wine and thank them for their patience.

One of my boundaries is an old, unstable brick wall. If I "push it over" to my neighbours side, someone could die.

You didn't push over the old fence - your builder erected a temporary fence (an unwanted one by the looks of it) on your neighbours land.

Mind boggles how some people fend for themselves with such lack in ability to express themselves. Must be hard to get by.

@RedLollyYellowLolly0 you/ your builder are in the wrong here

No.

my builder used what was their crappy rickety fence which was wobbly by the way and he rebuilt it with about 6 new posts and created a box which went o to their land only by about 2 foot - this allowed us to build the wall and for their dogs to be safe.

so their fence was pushed out and rebuilt effectively and made better which benefitted them.
i don’t know if maybe the fence had since fallen or the posts BUT most of the construction has been thrown over onto my property. They could have asked us and we would be happy to take it all when the build was complete. These massive posts and the old fence panels have been thrown over onto my land damaging things.

im not going to say anything to her. I just wanted another viewpoint and can now see why she might have been upset. There’s no party wall agreement - we have planning permission and it’s all gone thought the proper channels.

Yes.
i will do this soon when the build and the noise is over.

Planning permission won’t give you all the consents you need - it especially doesn’t give party wall agreement nor building regs.

they are probably fed up with it all to be honest. I’d suggest a mid point bottle and flowers is a good idea and again at the end. Don’t leave it otherwise they could get very upset.

There’s no party wall agreement - we have planning permission and it’s all gone thought the proper channels
Planning permission doesn't negate the need for a party wall agreement. You're building up to the boundary so a PTW was necessary.
Your builder should have known this.

Sounds like miscommunication and frustration, to be honest. Maybe they thought it would all be finished quicker?
No, they probably shouldn't have thrown the fence bits over willy nilly, bit it sounds like they've lived with your crap in their garden for a while. Everyone reaches the end of their rope eventually. Go talk to them.

Sounds like they decided the wall was high enough to contain the dogs so the temporary fence was no longer needed.

Rather than ask you to remove it, or could they remove it themselves, and what should they do with the panels and posts, they just went ahead and removed it and put the wood back on your land.

Perhaps they got annoyed that you left the temporary fence there longer than they deemed necessary.

Would have been better if they'd just talked to you about it.

I feel it's a bit petty to ask for compensation.

I'd call round with flowers and apologise for leaving it there longer than necessary. Opens up a dialogue so they will probably explain their reasoning.

More talking = less misunderstanding

You’d have been happy to take the rubbish at the end of the building?! Why should they have the old fence posts in their garden?

you need to be really careful here if you’ve built up to the boundary without a PW agreement. Hope you’re not planning on selling anytime soon…..

Dont create neighbour wars. You have to live next to these people. Apologise for the building inconvenience and take a bottle of wine over.once you stsrt being angry over pots it just escalates. Bite your tongue.

Yes we are- why do you say that?