Dogs in restaurants

[MealDealDreamz]

Informal dining and cafes, fine. Pubs, fine. But only if dogs are on the floor and reasonably well behaved (by that I mean not barking all the time).Restaurant not fine. Am I alone in this?
If I am paying to go somewhere specifically to enjoy the food and pay extra for it and want to enjoy a special evening (birthday) why do I have to put up with a dog lying on the floor at the table next to me?. I just don't think this is necessary or acceptable. Am I totally alone in this?

If the majority don’t want dogs in pubs and cafes then the owners of the premises would act accordingly but they don’t.
Our dog is part of the family and we are usually out walking with her when we stop off in pubs and cafes. Dogs are pack animals and they would much rather be out and about with company than left alone at home by themselves.

Blimey so much drama

Pretty obvious you are one of those parents who let's their kids do what they want

Going back to the original OP.... I do agree OP. Cafes and pubs are more likely to accept dogs due to their casual nature, but even more so if they are in tourist areas or dog walking areas, to attract customers. This is probably just a fact of life as they need the trade.

But restuarants, given the ambience likely shouldn't.

Having said that, I have found that they rarely do take dogs, so it's very easy to find one that doesn't take dogs. On that basis YABU....

Just had a visit to a cafe. Notice up saying Assistance dogs only.
i go in, woman there with a dog, another woman with dog comes in, high volume barking and straining on leash. Goes on and on, I can’t hear my friend , people start getting up and leaving. Not relaxing at all, neither owner seems bothered, just smiling as if it’s a joke.

I was in a shitty relationship for 6 years, financially abusive and generally unpleasant. It was very lonely and my dog was beside me through that. When I made the decision to finally end things with my ex and told family and close friends, they were incredibly supportive and really encouraged me that I was doing the right thing.

The day my ex left however the support stopped. It was as if they went "she's done it now, well done" The thing is actually that's went things got harder. I was so lonely. Having someone around at the end of the day, someone (however shit) to talk to, or exchange a few words with). I suddenly went from having companionship to being on my own 7 days a week. I went through a stage missing being in an abusive relationship because I was so lonely.

Friends and family had said they were supportive, but it was just words. But unless I called, or asked to do something there was nothing. After a few weeks of me always being the one to reach out I felt like a burden.

I then started dating again, and it was great. But the difference is, early days you might see them once or twice a week, but I missed that daily interaction.
Through all of this my dog has been there, making me smile, being dependable, accompanying me or trips to the pub or on a day out (when all my friends are too busy).

When you see me and my dog in a pub or a cafe, yes I can leave him at home, but I don't want to; in fact I'd then probably stay at home with him. For me he is my support into the world, he isn't part of my family- he is my family. When people say I dont know why people have to take their dogs everywhere- well he's all I've got. And as I try to rebuild a life, he'll continue to support me and help me through, more so than anyone else ever has done.

If I don't go to a pub with my dog I probably don't go at all. I work from home and unless I make the effort to go out I will see my boyfriend 2 days a week, my parents or friends maybe one, the rest of the time I am alone. And it becomes a long time to be by yourself. I like to sit in a pub or a cafe and surround myself with chatter and maybe exchange a few words with people- I certainly wouldn't do it on my own. My dog allows that.

@ForRealCat I feel exactly the same and my dog is my support too. I adopted her a year after my partner died when I was really unhappy and lonely. She really has saved my life and comes everywhere with me and, if I could afford it, would be with me in pubs and cafes too .

My feelings exactly. I’ve eaten countless times at dog-friendly places and never once had cause for complaint.

Not at all. My kids are perfectly behaved. i just have a smidgen of tolerance that other people’s kids aren’t gonna be super quiet or perfectly behaved and because im not an uptight stress head

Of course they are. You just keep telling yourself that
You are an uptight stress head. Your posts about dogs, when the majority are well behaved, give you away there quite clearly.
Tolerance goes all ways, well most people think it does

Tolerating children is completely different to tolerating animals. We need children in the world and we can’t leave them at home. Also we were all children once. Bringing an animal into a restaurant is imposing on the space of humans, and IMO (and that of many others) unacceptable

If I am enjoying a good meal.in an expensive restaurant, which is what we are talking about here, then you certainly can do something. You can take them outside, and you absolutely can not bring them, by not going out or going to somewhere child friendly like a pub by a play barn, or get a baby sitter. Take your screaming, banging, running around offspring elsewhere, don't inflict your low standards on others.

When I was a child, and when my kids were young, that's exactly what happened

The fact that you don't even think about that says a lot about you

It’s quite pathetic how you REALLY want my kids to be badly behaved - you’d be sorely disappointed.

Again you have to have a tolerance for all sorts of humans. It’s a bit narcissistic to think everyone around you should behave to your exact standards.

You really aren't getting the irony and hypocrisy, are you.... you keep on digging deeper, not really getting how hypocritical you are.

You REALLY want my dog to misbehave in pubs, etc, he doesn't. On the rare occasion he even lifts his head (if someone's kid says hello, more irony) never mind moves, we block him in with chairs or double wrap his lead round table legs.

But yes, of course, everyone makes mistakes, with kids and dogs, it's how you react to them that counts. You are clearly intolerant and want everyone to follow your way. I was winding you up by using exaggerated, emotive language about kids just as you did about dogs.
You just don't recognise yourself in the mirror, and have ignored the opinions of all those who value their dogs for personal reasons

Well it’s good your dog behaves but even a well behaved dog is an imposition on others. Children are different. It may not sit well with you but it’s the truth

Some people really don't like kids. So even a well behaved kid sat in the same cafe as them is going to piss them off.
Much like you and dogs.
Both kid and dog haters alike will do well to just mind their own business and get on with their day.

I can’t be doing with people who blanket “don’t like kids”. Disliking a subsection of humans, especially the sub section that are innocent. is slightly unhinged. It should be a “them” problem, no one else’s.

Not liking an animal that is noisy smelly and often casts hair is reasonable. They are not humans and it’s not an equal footing. I know this must hurt to hear but it’s true 🤷‍♀️

Hating dogs is also a "them" problem.
Anyway, I am going to take my dog for a little walk and take her to the local cafe. Very dog friendly. She will get fuss and biscuit.

I don’t hate dogs, I’ve owned dogs. Pretty hard creatures to hate. I dislike entitled dog owners though.

And actually disliking dogs or fearing them is entirely reasonable.

I am not being entitled to take her somewhere she is welcome. She is also very well behaved.
It is entitled to go to a dog friendly place and moan there are dogs there. Even more entitled to moan about dogs that are well behaved and ignoring you.

No they aren't
No they aren't
No it isn't. It's your view

Exactly!

Of course children are different to animals. Unless you’re a psychopath

Narcissistic AND psychopath?

You're hilarious 😂

You just can't believe that others might like dogs, including business owners. And that your opinion simply isn't the most important thing

I accept people like dogs.

I don’t like that some people think it’s the same as having a child and that tolerance levels should be the same