To think the judge was right to throw the book at Just Stop Oil?

[StripedPiggy]

Five Just Stop Oil activists, including leader & XR founder Roger Hallam have been sentenced to up to 5 years in jail for blocking the M25 & other main roads.
Their intention was to cause gridlock on roads in the South East. The disruption they caused resulted in people missing medical appointments, flights & business meetings.

Well done to that judge. The criminal justice system is right to pass serious sentences on these fanatics which will act as a strong deterrent to others who might try to cause mass disruption, and put people’s lives in danger, to further a political agenda, whatever it might be.

I think the judge was biased and the trial flawed. I strongly believe in the right to protest and generally admire those who are prepared to take a stand. Sadly I think many of the ways JSO and ER protest are ill advised and don’t get the message across properly. Global Warming is happening and fossil fuels are becoming harder to access. Oil supplies are being depleted and whilst we need them the countries that control them wield the power. Globally , oil is getting harder to extract. Globally we have 20 years maybe, but as oil gets rarer the price will rise hugely. Some people see Global Warming as way down the road, others see the depletion of fossil fuels as an urgent problem in our lifetime.

Oh ffs. You get less time for killing someone in a car. It's an egregious sentence to have passed. Absolutely fucking outrageous Do you really want to live in a country where 5 year sentences for plotting to cause a public nuisance are being handed out?

@AccidentallyWesAnderson I mean it is a binary but sure.

So let's follow your argument, it's non peaceful and illegal to take an action that causes mass disruption with the potential for serious consequences.

Where does that leave the government who today were found to have failed the British public by not preparing adequately for a pandemic?

I was only vaguely aware of the Freedom Convoy. But after your post I googled it.

What a bunch of clowns and weirdos! So it’s a double-thumbs down from me: JSO 👎 and Freedom Convoy 👎.

A few years in a big hotel on the moors for all of them I say.

Start a new thread.

Delighted with the prison sentences,just wish they had been longer.

You are complerely unreasonable. Theyre failing to keep rapists in prison because of over crowding but puttting protesters in prison and you think the sentencing is ok?!

Wake up. They are protesting for your health your children and grand childrens lives. The judge needs waking up too 🤬

Sure they caused chaos and, no, I'm not a member nor do I think their tactics work, but I know their hearts are in the right place. Thank God we have a government that now agrees with them on licensing.

Think suffragettes and what they did to get women the vote.

Brilliant comment, @StripedPiggy

I think the sentence is entirely fair. The JSO crew seem mainly to be leisured younger people, often from money families. As someone else said, they are full of the arrogance of youth.

A two-hour traffic jam is easy to brush off if you're not the one sitting in it, with period pain, after a ten-hour shift on low pay.

It's the arrogance of JSO that I've never been able to come to terms with, and their superiority - 'oh, but our cause is morally justified'. No it's not. They seem to expect everyone to get behind them just because they themselves think environmentalism is a superior worthy cause.

Imagine if everyone who feels strongly about something started tying themselves to the Blackwall Tunnel? For example, i feel strongly that live animal transportation needs looking at again. I would like to see both inheritance and council tax massively overhauled so that those who can afford to pay more alleviate the burden on those who are struggling. Do I expect everyone to agree with or sympathise with these views? Of course I don't. Unlike the JSO fuckwits. Would I padlock myself to the top of a tall bridge and expect people to smile and say 'it's okay because it's all in a good cause'. Never, never, never because I don't possess arrogance on that level and I recognise that people are different.

They should have had longer sentences if anything.

Totally agree. I think it sets a horrendous precedent.

Why aren't the water bosses in bloody prison??

They should have had longer sentences if anything.

and the rapists, murderers of women and paedophiles? should they get jailtime too? and since we have so few available spaces, who should we prioritise to get those cells?

Punishment doesn't need to be jail. It could, should in many many cases, be community service. Which would have been entirely appropriate here. Since they were convicted of talking about an action, rather than an actual action.

They aren't as arrogant as the people driving ridiculously huge cars, throwing a paddy about sitting in a traffic jam.

I support Don't Stop Oil.

They aren't as arrogant as the people driving ridiculously huge cars, throwing a paddy about sitting in a traffic jam.

I support Don't Stop Oil.

Isn’t it Just Stop oil? I’m happy to be corrected.

Just to add to this post. Attached is what thryvwere imprisoned for and the comments of 2 key climate scientists

I believe it is, apologies

I know a woman who is in Extinction Rebellion who drives a diesel car. The hypocrisy is off the scale.

Oh well then. If you know someone who is a hypocrite they must all be!

Poor Cressida.

Perhaps Cressie could have thought about the poor ordinary people trying to get to jobs they don't get paid for if they don't arrive on time.

What everyone rushing to defend these spoilt middle class idiots has not realised is that if we just stopped using oil now, or in the next 10 years the world's economies would collapse. There would be no food in the shops, or even in the fields. There would be no way of transporting food from abroad. Manufacturing of good would stop.
Millions thats actually 100s of millions would starve to death.
Water supplies in the driest areas would stop
Life as we know it on planet earth would stop and we would revert to the dark ages with the weak perishing and violence is the only rule of law.

Dont dismiss this. It's fact

@Collexifon* If you know someone who is a hypocrite they must all be!*

Do you think it's acceptable to behave in a way that runs counter to the problem you are taking direct action about?

I’m glad they finally dished out some proper sentences.

Roger Hallam in particular needs a few years locked away to reconsider his actions.

People were late for work! Crikey. What are they going to feel like when the roads are flooded, or severe storms cut the power??

Probably not one fuck if they can’t feed their kids.

OK. Let their kids or grandkids worry about it then.

It's about bloody time!