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Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.

534 replies

Brendathedoll · 18/07/2024 13:12

Had a rare day off yesterday so went for a pub lunch with my sister. In there I saw 2 nursery nurses from my child’s daycare having lunch and they each had a glass of wine. There were also 2 empty glasses in the table but possibly from previous customers. I wasn’t happy but my sister says it’s there lunchtime they don’t get paid for and 2 glasses won’t make any difference. They saw me and looked a bit sheepish but it means I can’t report them anon now. I’m scared if I say something they would treat my child differently. Am I being ott thinkinb they shouldn’t drink while caring for kids?

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Cazareeto1 · 21/07/2024 18:59

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 18:54

Loads are part time..... what makes you say otherwise?

Only nursery staff who are part time tend to be training… iv got 3 kids done the nursery thing for many years at 3 different nurseries…good nursery’s have the same staff daily who are full time so that the kids have a positive bond with their caregivers at nursery… a crap one will have part time staff and little full time.. which creates very young children to become unsettled. 🤦‍♀️

Mysterian · 21/07/2024 18:59

After 30 years in childcare I have never encountered a nursery worker who would drink any alcohol at any time.

😉

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 21/07/2024 19:04

Never had to use the word bra?

Nah, you're having a laugh

There's no way tou genuinely think nursery workers drinking after work is them being unfit

If a nursery worker sees a parent drinking, guess what, they won't do FUCK ALL unless they are drinking and abusing/abandoning their child

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 19:07

@Cazareeto1 you're incorrect, not trainees at all!

Please see attached

Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.
Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.
Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.
ButWhatAboutTheBees · 21/07/2024 19:08

That would be very expensive, but you can be sure that such nannies and nursery nurses would NEVER discredit their training or their employers by being seen in compromising places.

Ah, you're weird and rich aren't you?

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 19:13

@Cazareeto1 I DID THE CAPITALS TO MAKE A POINT, THE SAME REASON I LINKED THE THREE POSTS ABOUT PART TIME NURSERY WORKERS.

Honestly, you're not really a gods authority because you've had three children and numerous nurseries, makes me wonder why you've had so many nurseries..... lots of changes because???? 🤔

llizzie · 21/07/2024 19:18

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 21/07/2024 18:34

Because nutters like you exist who think nursery workers are some kind of higher being who should be above us lowly mortals

I happen to think nursery workers are higher than many other professions. They have the responsibility of ''bringing up baby''. Their responsibility is so much higher than that of many other professions. They do not get paid commensurate with the work they do because parents would have to pay more. It does not mean they do not deserve more.

If I am a nutter because I honour and praise those who work in care, babies, children and domiciliary work with adults and disabled, then long may I stay a nutter, especially to the likes of you, who resort to insults and bad language in a desperate bid to make me change my mind.

I think what carers in all places deserve praise, but they do not get it when some of their number abuse their positions by their negative behaviour in public.

I gave my opinion on the OP. I have not changed that opinion. You, however, have now said that nursery workers don't deserve the esteem so few of us give them. That, whataboutthe bees, says it all. On behalf of all the nutters out in society who praise the work of care people whoever and wherever they are, I thank you for showing your true colours.

TheKeatingFive · 21/07/2024 19:20

Cazareeto1 · 21/07/2024 18:52

most have their holidays when it runs in line with school holidays for 3-5 year olds… have you got kids who have went to nursery yet?

Yep, my kids are done with nursery now. And that's not true of my experience at all.

Our nursery had two weeks in the year where the whole place shut down - aside from that, employees took leave when they requested it, like any other job.

TheKeatingFive · 21/07/2024 19:22

I think what carers in all places deserve praise, but they do not get it when some of their number abuse their positions by their negative behaviour in public.

Gosh you have a very odd relationship with alcohol if you think a glass of wine in the pub is 'negative behaviour'. 🫠

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 21/07/2024 19:22

You think they deserve praise but condemn them for having a normal human life?

ODFOD

Having a drink or two with a meal isn't negative behaviour or abusing their position. It's not like they were downing shots, getting naked and getting in a fight with their dealer...

Waitwhat23 · 21/07/2024 19:24

I know fully qualified (excellent) EYP's who are part time because they have their own small children.

I know fully qualified (excellent) EYP's who have reduced their hours and become part time while they are coming up to retirement.

And in Scotland (I can't comment on England), the 1140 hours means there are a number of local authority settings which are year around rather than term time so staff can be on annual leave at various times through the year. There is a setting (with a very good reputation) nearish me which is open 7am - 6pm so that staff work different shifts.

CatamaranViper · 21/07/2024 19:29

Nursery workers absolutely can work part time. Yes I've had a kid go through nursery and 2 nieces who I collect from nursery every week, but my main piece of evidence is my SIL who is a part time nursery practitioner and has been for about 15 years in a brilliant nursery.

TheKeatingFive · 21/07/2024 19:30

DS2's key worker was part time. Mornings only. Perhaps I should have been spying on her to see if she ever had a glass of wine with her lunch 🤔

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 19:30

CatamaranViper · 21/07/2024 19:29

Nursery workers absolutely can work part time. Yes I've had a kid go through nursery and 2 nieces who I collect from nursery every week, but my main piece of evidence is my SIL who is a part time nursery practitioner and has been for about 15 years in a brilliant nursery.

No they can't, and if they do, it's because they're training or it's a shit nursery @Cazareeto1 knows, she's had three children don't you know!

CatamaranViper · 21/07/2024 19:32

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 19:30

No they can't, and if they do, it's because they're training or it's a shit nursery @Cazareeto1 knows, she's had three children don't you know!

Poor SIL, I wonder if she knows!

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 19:34

@CatamaranViper do tell her, it's absolutely correct! Without a doubt the situation nationwide everywhere!

TheKeatingFive · 21/07/2024 19:36

This thread has turned out more batshit than I could ever have imagined 🫠

Debdelight · 21/07/2024 20:36

My Dd works 2 days 8 hour shift and one day 4 hour shift which suits her and her family. Her colleague works 4 days 8 hour shift. Both mid thirties and fully trained.

Numerous children get funded hours which are either mornings or afternoons so Dd looks after the same ones each shift on her half day. To say there's no part timers is batshit.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 21/07/2024 21:04

TheKeatingFive · 21/07/2024 19:36

This thread has turned out more batshit than I could ever have imagined 🫠

Honestly, it was a fairly normal MN thread until Nurseries don't employ part time staff unless it's a shit nursery and nursery workers must be appreciated but are not allowed to be seen wjtba drink because that's negative behaviour which will turn the babies into raging alcoholics

CobaltQueen · 21/07/2024 22:01

My cousin often works 8/1. As others have said, a lot of the children are on funded hours and only attend AM sessions.

Mysterian · 21/07/2024 22:22

I work 8-2 PT.

Crystallizedring · 21/07/2024 22:31

Cazareeto1 · 21/07/2024 18:59

Only nursery staff who are part time tend to be training… iv got 3 kids done the nursery thing for many years at 3 different nurseries…good nursery’s have the same staff daily who are full time so that the kids have a positive bond with their caregivers at nursery… a crap one will have part time staff and little full time.. which creates very young children to become unsettled. 🤦‍♀️

You clearly don't have a clue. Children are very capable of forming more than one bond, even if they see a staff member just in mornings or three days a week.
I only worked part time, fully qualified and I had a fantastic bond with the children. I actually had parents request me as a key worker because they knew I cared about the kids (usually because I'd looked after an older sibling).
Oh and nursery was outstanding so I don't think your strange theory holds up.

llizzie · 22/07/2024 02:19

TheKeatingFive · 21/07/2024 18:25

Ask yourselves all you who agree with the staff in the pub, if you would expect good references. Why do you expect them, since you excuse their behaviour outside of work? It might not be drinking in or out of hours: it could be shoplifting - or WORSE - if you get my drift.

Er, shoplifting is illegal. Drinking in a pub isn't. Don't you know this?

Of course it is not illegal. Did I say it was? Nursery nurses are perfectly entitled to go to the pub and drink whatever they like.

BUT This thread is not concerned with the legal side of drinking, is it? The discussion is about whether people whose profession it is to care for the babies/children of others should drink alcohol in pubs where they are likely to be recognised. It is about whether those with a duty of care are acting responsibly by being seen to drink alcohol next door to their place of employment.

If they are doing something which brings disrespect to their profession, then it is wrong, whether legal or not. They would not lose their job on a point of legality, but on a point of bringing disrepute to the nursery concerned.

If you cannot see the difference, then I am sorry for you. I gave those points as an example because I consider what they done is as serious.

TheKeatingFive · 22/07/2024 02:24

If they are doing something which brings disrespect to their profession, then it is wrong, whether legal or not.

Having a glass of wine in a pub is not bringing disrespect to anything. You sound really messed up.

If you cannot see the difference, then I am sorry for you. I gave those points as an example because I consider what they done is as serious.

Well that's just ridiculous. Why do you have such an odd reaction to people having a drink?

Debdelight · 22/07/2024 06:25

"Bringing disrespect to the nursery" is rubbish

OP said they were not in uniform so to the rest of the pub goers they were just 2 people having lunch. A simple phone call by parent to nursery would have put their mind at rest.

Logic would also dictate to parent that

  1. How would it be feasible to have lunch and 2 glasses of wine in 1 hour (if indeed that's how long they have). As PP have said, it's usually half hour.
  1. Gig