Page 16 | Nursery workers drinking at lunchtime.

BurntBroccoli · 19/07/2024 21:51

@ButWhatAboutTheBees
Of course not however the combination of alcohol and food that would raise your blood sugar levels through the roof followed by a crash in energy.

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 22:01

But you didn't say combination

And you specifically mentioned twice about food

Sure sounded like they shouldn't eat because it can make them tired!

Debdelight · 19/07/2024 22:03

Just discussed this thread with my Dd. If who you saw was a red head and mixed race pair and the pub was in the midlands then it could be them

My Dd worked half day yesterday and her colleague was off. They got together after Dd shift as it would be last catch up before breaking up today as they only work term time. My Dd had tonic water in what could have looked like a wine glass and her colleague had wine.

Dd didn't have tabard on as she had finished shift. Even when on shift they take tabard off at their half hour lunch even if just dashing over the road to get lunch from Tesco.

Of the 3 nurseries she has worked in she has always had half hour break. Two colleagues off for same lunch time is unusual as they normally need cover to keep ratios.

If it was her you saw then the sheepish look was a "please God don't come over to discuss your child" look. She has it when she goes supermarket shopping and sees parents who want to talk work. She works damn hard for minimum wage so give her a break.

If it was her then she says she will see you September!

TooManyBookcases · 19/07/2024 22:06

How do you know it wasn’t non alcoholic wine?

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:09

The more I read the thread, the more I’m convinced the idea of these women drinking 2? glasses of wine and eating lunch in a pub - getting there, getting served, eating and drinking said meal and booze, and getting back to work - in a 30 minute time frame - is a load of rubbish. There’s no way that anyone will have the time to do this. Think about it - in that 30 mins they’ve first got to get to the venue, then read the menu, then decide what they’re having, then place the order, then have time to eat it and drink 2 (?) glasses of wine. Even if they pre- ordered the meal before arriving, getting through it, drinking 1 (or2) glasses of wine once it is served, and then back to work within 30 minutes is nigh on miraculous. Plus, don’t you think the staff back at the nursery might smell the alcohol on their breath? The whole thing is ludicrous.

TheQueenWhoNeverWas · 19/07/2024 22:20

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:09

The more I read the thread, the more I’m convinced the idea of these women drinking 2? glasses of wine and eating lunch in a pub - getting there, getting served, eating and drinking said meal and booze, and getting back to work - in a 30 minute time frame - is a load of rubbish. There’s no way that anyone will have the time to do this. Think about it - in that 30 mins they’ve first got to get to the venue, then read the menu, then decide what they’re having, then place the order, then have time to eat it and drink 2 (?) glasses of wine. Even if they pre- ordered the meal before arriving, getting through it, drinking 1 (or2) glasses of wine once it is served, and then back to work within 30 minutes is nigh on miraculous. Plus, don’t you think the staff back at the nursery might smell the alcohol on their breath? The whole thing is ludicrous.

The OP's version of events is that the pub is right next door to the nursery and she happens to know that they get a full hour break because her sister used to work at the nursery.

So on those facts the timings would stack up perfectly fine for a quick pub meal and a glass of wine. You'd need to go some to get two glasses in in that time, but you could do it if you really wanted to.

Mamtorr · 19/07/2024 22:25

Debdelight · 19/07/2024 22:03

Just discussed this thread with my Dd. If who you saw was a red head and mixed race pair and the pub was in the midlands then it could be them

My Dd worked half day yesterday and her colleague was off. They got together after Dd shift as it would be last catch up before breaking up today as they only work term time. My Dd had tonic water in what could have looked like a wine glass and her colleague had wine.

Dd didn't have tabard on as she had finished shift. Even when on shift they take tabard off at their half hour lunch even if just dashing over the road to get lunch from Tesco.

Of the 3 nurseries she has worked in she has always had half hour break. Two colleagues off for same lunch time is unusual as they normally need cover to keep ratios.

If it was her you saw then the sheepish look was a "please God don't come over to discuss your child" look. She has it when she goes supermarket shopping and sees parents who want to talk work. She works damn hard for minimum wage so give her a break.

If it was her then she says she will see you September!

Just bumping this 🤣

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:28

She happens to know? Her sister used to work there? When? Things change. New systems alter how things once were. One hour lunch breaks are a rarity, especially in education, believe me.

PurpleBugz · 19/07/2024 22:38

I work in early years. You can't drink ANY alcohol and then go to work! It's instant dismissal so reporting it won't get your kid treated differently they will be gone. And if they are innocent and decent childcare workers they would understand as safeguarding is everyone's responsibility.

I really don't like this attitude everyone has if stay out of these things. These are children. Alcohol slows reactions. What if you have to deal with a choking incident or a fit? What if a child climbs dangerously and you need to go up and get them down? This is not safe to do with small children. We should all not think twice of double checking children are safe and cared for by appropriate people.

I don't judge anyone who wants to get fully plastered when off duty so long as they are sober before they go back to work (hangovers at nursery infuriates me to). I drink around my own kids on occasion it's completely different when it's your own kids.

If I had an afternoon off and got reported for having a drink I would not be offended. If I'm employed my employer would know I was off work. As I'm self employed I would just show my register that I wasn't working. If doesn't ruin your career if you are innocent. And it's not upsetting to know you could ve questioned it's part of working with kids ffs

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 22:50

And if the nursery still let's them go because the story gets misreported and parents aren't happy and start to remove their children?

Or they get hate mail and death threats and targeted? Slandered on SM and can't walk down the road safely?

These things happen, especially with the fact this story is now in the papers!

Procrastinates · 19/07/2024 22:53

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 22:50

And if the nursery still let's them go because the story gets misreported and parents aren't happy and start to remove their children?

Or they get hate mail and death threats and targeted? Slandered on SM and can't walk down the road safely?

These things happen, especially with the fact this story is now in the papers!

Exactly!

You only have to look at that news article and this thread to see most people have already deemed them guilty of drinking whilst looking after babies!

Allegations like this stick even if they are investigated and found to be completely untrue.

planAplanB · 19/07/2024 23:02

Sometimes I have a white wine spritzer in a large wine glass with loads of ice and soda. It looks like I've 2 massive glasses of wine when I've actually only had one small. You are massively jumping to conclusions when you have no idea if they were drinking or even working!!!

llizzie · 19/07/2024 23:37

Brendathedoll · 18/07/2024 13:12

Had a rare day off yesterday so went for a pub lunch with my sister. In there I saw 2 nursery nurses from my child’s daycare having lunch and they each had a glass of wine. There were also 2 empty glasses in the table but possibly from previous customers. I wasn’t happy but my sister says it’s there lunchtime they don’t get paid for and 2 glasses won’t make any difference. They saw me and looked a bit sheepish but it means I can’t report them anon now. I’m scared if I say something they would treat my child differently. Am I being ott thinkinb they shouldn’t drink while caring for kids?

It is so wrong I hope OP did something about it. Judgement can be impaired by alcohol. Only if they were drinking alcohol free wine or grape juice have they NOT committed a crime.

If they drive to and from work, then that is illegal. How many people realise that you cannot drive even if you only have one drink?

If it is an offence to be drink driving, it most certainly is an offence to look after little children.

I would go as far as to say this nursery should be reported to whichever body is responsible for monitoring pre school nurseries, and if the OP's dc is still going, then she is making a grave mistake, even if she has to stay off work while looking for another pre-school.

Undertherainbow00 · 19/07/2024 23:39

LovedFedAndNoonesDead · 18/07/2024 13:18

Perhaps they had a half day 🤷🏼‍♀️

This was exactly my thought… They probably only have a half hour lunch break (standard in most day care provisions) - maximum an hour… I cannot see how they would feasibly have time to leave work, get to said place drink wine, eat and get back to the nursery. This just doesn’t make sense to me unless they were working a half day. If I was that concerned, I would raise it with the nursery manager.

Undertherainbow00 · 19/07/2024 23:43

☝🏻THIS

Undertherainbow00 · 19/07/2024 23:45

Debdelight · 19/07/2024 22:03

Just discussed this thread with my Dd. If who you saw was a red head and mixed race pair and the pub was in the midlands then it could be them

My Dd worked half day yesterday and her colleague was off. They got together after Dd shift as it would be last catch up before breaking up today as they only work term time. My Dd had tonic water in what could have looked like a wine glass and her colleague had wine.

Dd didn't have tabard on as she had finished shift. Even when on shift they take tabard off at their half hour lunch even if just dashing over the road to get lunch from Tesco.

Of the 3 nurseries she has worked in she has always had half hour break. Two colleagues off for same lunch time is unusual as they normally need cover to keep ratios.

If it was her you saw then the sheepish look was a "please God don't come over to discuss your child" look. She has it when she goes supermarket shopping and sees parents who want to talk work. She works damn hard for minimum wage so give her a break.

If it was her then she says she will see you September!

☝🏻THIS

Undertherainbow00 · 19/07/2024 23:47

Greenshed · 19/07/2024 22:09

The more I read the thread, the more I’m convinced the idea of these women drinking 2? glasses of wine and eating lunch in a pub - getting there, getting served, eating and drinking said meal and booze, and getting back to work - in a 30 minute time frame - is a load of rubbish. There’s no way that anyone will have the time to do this. Think about it - in that 30 mins they’ve first got to get to the venue, then read the menu, then decide what they’re having, then place the order, then have time to eat it and drink 2 (?) glasses of wine. Even if they pre- ordered the meal before arriving, getting through it, drinking 1 (or2) glasses of wine once it is served, and then back to work within 30 minutes is nigh on miraculous. Plus, don’t you think the staff back at the nursery might smell the alcohol on their breath? The whole thing is ludicrous.

My thoughts exactly!!!

ButWhatAboutTheBees · 19/07/2024 23:52

If they drive to and from work, then that is illegal. How many people realise that you cannot drive even if you only have one drink?

Whilst I absolutely don't condone drink driving... this is technically not true. Different people absorb alcohol differently and some can be under the limit after drinking more than others...

Obviously the, sensible, advice is not to drink and drive at all. But there's a legal limit and one drink might not push you over it.

Also, technically it would only be illegal to drive FROM work.

NewName24 · 20/07/2024 00:04

If they drive to and from work, then that is illegal. How many people realise that you cannot drive even if you only have one drink?

That's only the case in Scotland, not the other home countries (sorry, I don't know about the rest of the World).

TheKeatingFive · 20/07/2024 00:56

If they drive to and from work, then that is illegal.

And why are you assuming that they're driving? Zero evidence for that too.

Bluebirdover · 20/07/2024 03:04

If they drive to and from work, then that is illegal. How many people realise that you cannot drive even if you only have one drink?

Not in England.... where are you talking about?

Swampy1958 · 20/07/2024 04:09

Alcohol is alcohol regardless of quantity. Being in charge of babies/children is an responsible job and those in charge should not consume any alcohol. They should wait until they're not working to chill with a tipple. I would have thought this subject would be in their T&C's/employment contract?

JustPoppinBy · 20/07/2024 06:48

Icannoteven · 18/07/2024 13:15

Drinking one glass of wine. Fine. If they were legless, that’s a different story. It’s their unpaid lunch break, as long as they are compos mentis to do their job when they get back to work, where is the problem?

I only have a drink every few months and I can honestly say that a glass of wine, especially with a meal, wouldn’t get me tipsy.

No, I’m sorry, but this is wrong. You can not drink alcohol during your lunch break and then go back to your job as a nursery nurse! It doesn’t matter if it’s during their ‘unpaid lunchtime’, they still have their working day to continue. Of course you can’t consume alcohol then work in a nursery! I’m pretty sure this would be gross misconduct OP.

Dreamsofcruise · 20/07/2024 08:58

OP I only have NHS proceedures to go by but as a nurse (not dealing with hands on care even) part of our terms and conditions is that we must not turn up for work with alcohol in our system and drinking on duty is a sackable offence.
People minimising professional staff drinking alcohol in the middle of a shift looking after young children is plain weird in my opinion!! Please do speak with the nursery manager, your concerns do need to be addressed.

Bluebirdover · 20/07/2024 09:06

Swampy1958 · 20/07/2024 04:09

Alcohol is alcohol regardless of quantity. Being in charge of babies/children is an responsible job and those in charge should not consume any alcohol. They should wait until they're not working to chill with a tipple. I would have thought this subject would be in their T&C's/employment contract?

Like they could've been when OP saw them?