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AIBU to feel frustrated with restaurant?

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Heelworkhero · 16/07/2024 00:44

Went out for a lovely meal this evening with a friend.
It was about 9.30pm when we finally finished eating and asked for a decaf coffee each.
Clearly, it wasn’t decaf, given I’m wide awake and I never have a problem sleeping.
It’s so frustrating when this happens!!!
Pointless even trying to sleep for hours now…….

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mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 16:41

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 16:39

If you're addressing someone specifically, you'd be best either quoting the post or using the @?

Assuming you're directing this comment at me, you've found one random thing on the internet an used it as leverage for your argument about coffee, when you were mistaken as it's lemonade! It's just nonsense really.

Caffeine is caffeine whether it is in lemonade or coffee. This entire thread is about the OP being served caffeine when they asked for no caffeine. I posted the article to illustrate the dangers of people with certain conditions inadvertently consuming caffeine.

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 16:42

@mutationseagull they asked for decaf..... which contains caffeine

Trixiefirecracker · 21/07/2024 16:45

Decaf contains caffeine. Are you saying 5mg of caffeine would kill someone because caffeine is caffeine and the varying amounts don’t make any difference or indeed that fact the Lemonade are also contained herbal highs?

mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 16:47

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 16:42

@mutationseagull they asked for decaf..... which contains caffeine

It contains a very small amount of caffeine, which is generally safe, even for people with heart conditions. Anybody requesting decaf has a reasonable expectation that they are not going to be served a drink that is high in caffeine. With the lemonade it was not adequately signposted as being high in caffeine and/or serving staff were unaware, which is the crux of the wrongful death lawsuits.

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 16:50

@mutationseagull I'm not denying they should've got decaf, the same as if I ask for semi skimmed milk and get served full cream,

I'm calling bullshit at people (plural) dying because of a cup of caffeinated coffee in a restaurant.

HTH,

mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 16:52

Trixiefirecracker · 21/07/2024 16:45

Decaf contains caffeine. Are you saying 5mg of caffeine would kill someone because caffeine is caffeine and the varying amounts don’t make any difference or indeed that fact the Lemonade are also contained herbal highs?

No, as with anything the dose makes the poison. The vast majority of people can handle some amount of caffeine. Some people have a much lower tolerance but I don’t think anybody is going to be adversely affected by small amounts like that found in decaffeinated coffee, or chocolate etc. I don’t believe that the lemonade contained “herbal highs” beyond the plant based ingredients that provided the caffeine content.

Trixiefirecracker · 21/07/2024 16:56

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 16:50

@mutationseagull I'm not denying they should've got decaf, the same as if I ask for semi skimmed milk and get served full cream,

I'm calling bullshit at people (plural) dying because of a cup of caffeinated coffee in a restaurant.

HTH,

This. Exactly.

mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 17:01

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 16:50

@mutationseagull I'm not denying they should've got decaf, the same as if I ask for semi skimmed milk and get served full cream,

I'm calling bullshit at people (plural) dying because of a cup of caffeinated coffee in a restaurant.

HTH,

As I have said twice now, I was mistaken that the deaths were a result of lemonade. and not coffee. I still
believe that is an immaterial factor. The point is that the Panera case highlighted the dangers of serving drinks high in caffeine to people who should not be consuming them.

Trixiefirecracker · 21/07/2024 17:04

mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 17:01

As I have said twice now, I was mistaken that the deaths were a result of lemonade. and not coffee. I still
believe that is an immaterial factor. The point is that the Panera case highlighted the dangers of serving drinks high in caffeine to people who should not be consuming them.

But at 390 milligrams, the large Charged Lemonade has more caffeine than any size of Panera’s dark roast coffee, the complaint says — numbers that the nutrition facts on Panera’s website confirm. It also has guarana extract, another stimulant, as well as the equivalent of nearly 30 teaspoons of sugar
Guarana is a herbal extract which is known for being a stimulant. It also has caffeine in it and substances that mimic what caffeine does. It used to be used in herbal highs, people would use it to enhance their performance in the bedroom. The lemonade drink wasn’t just full of caffeine but other stimulants too. You can not use it as an example of someone dying from drinking coffee.

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 17:04

@mutationseagull I don't believe it, how many more times can I say this to you!!

I don't vive a cup of caffeinated coffee will kill anyone!

I've said it numerous times!

I.don't,believe,it!!

mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 17:18

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 17:04

@mutationseagull I don't believe it, how many more times can I say this to you!!

I don't vive a cup of caffeinated coffee will kill anyone!

I've said it numerous times!

I.don't,believe,it!!

Is a single cup of coffee going to kill someone with an underlying heart defect? I agree it is extremely unlikely, but the amount of caffeine in a single drink can vary massively, so I don’t think it is completely outwith the realms of possibility.

Bluebirdover · 21/07/2024 17:27

@mutationseagull I don't believe it and nothing you've said in any way changes my mind!

You've spouted utter nonsense about a different drink completely l!

Give it up!

Trixiefirecracker · 21/07/2024 18:29

mutationseagull · 21/07/2024 17:18

Is a single cup of coffee going to kill someone with an underlying heart defect? I agree it is extremely unlikely, but the amount of caffeine in a single drink can vary massively, so I don’t think it is completely outwith the realms of possibility.

So unlikely, it actually hasn’t happened.

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