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To find the Ambani wedding distasteful

414 replies

Soonenough · 14/07/2024 21:06

I know everyone can do what they like , it's their money . But such an extravagant event in a place where a large proportion of the population live in slum conditions is rather unsettling.? Plus the bride is stunning but the groom unfortunately does not come across as an individual with a lot

of intelligence . Before I get flamed , he and his family are encouraging the public to view them and I guess are expecting admiration.

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YabaJaba · 15/07/2024 10:07

I've been to India and seen the poverty firsthand. People living Along side a high speed train track, using open spaces to do their toilet, makeshift tent villages alongside main roads. And more. It hit home pretty hard and to see such wealth flaunted disgusts me.

DinnaeFashYersel · 15/07/2024 10:08

All big extravagant over the top weddings are distasteful

zingally · 15/07/2024 10:13

It's absolutely bonkers.

I saw him described online as having a body like an orangina bottle, which made me laugh.

CurlewKate · 15/07/2024 10:30

There are some very rich people in India.

JudgeJ · 15/07/2024 10:38

Lentilweaver · 15/07/2024 09:44

Should I donate to Oxfam and Western evangelical charities instead @JudgeJ? Your judgements are very sweeping.

Not at all 'sweeping' simply my experience of India a few years ago. The caste system is very entrenched and will continue, until India does more for their poor they are wrong to beg others to do so via TV adverts etc..

Lentilweaver · 15/07/2024 10:46

I am well versed with the inequities of the caste system @JudgeJ since I am Indian. Foreign aid is a complex matter which needs a separate thread, but your conclusion- having visited once- that absolutely nothing is being done for the Indian poor by those wealthier is a massive generalisation, nevertheless. it's a bit like claiming all Americans love guns and encourage gun violence.

I will continue to donate to grassroots Indian charities whose books I have personally inspected and which do far more for India than Westerners who parachute in.

MrsSkylerWhite · 15/07/2024 10:52

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil

Ah yes, so different to here. Someone from a Wigan council estate would never be looked down on in this country…“

I was from a Brixton council estate. Never been looked down on as far as I know.

noworklifebalance · 15/07/2024 10:53

Livingtothefull · 15/07/2024 10:00

Well to be a little more precise they have spent plenty of our money on these. It makes me laugh when one of them preaches about wanting to end homelessness: well if you are serious about that you could start by paying inheritance tax like the rest of us, perhaps consider giving up one of your lavish homes? Stop robbing the taxpayers and stop being secretive about your wealth.

I just don't think we as a nation are in a position to feel superior to other nations; just because the poverty is less blatant we know it exists and the inequality is here, and we tolerate it. And btw some of the worst poverty and abuses have just been exported overseas by us; eg every time we buy fast fashion (knowing how it has been produced) like it or not we contribute to it.

I think we are in agreement? My point is that people/nations in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones and we don’t need to look to far from home for examples of lavish extravagance when a significant percentage of the population are living in poverty.

Turmerictolly · 15/07/2024 10:57

The poverty in the Uk is on a different level to the absolute poverty in India. The gulf between the wealthy and poorest is extreme in India.

noworklifebalance · 15/07/2024 11:04

Turmerictolly · 15/07/2024 10:57

The poverty in the Uk is on a different level to the absolute poverty in India. The gulf between the wealthy and poorest is extreme in India.

I am sure those in poverty in the UK are feeling better knowing that the gulf between themselves and the Royal Family is at least not as extreme.

Gladtobeout · 15/07/2024 11:18

Just one (if many) example of the casual racism:

Utterly ridiculous to compare this six month fiasco to the wedding of Prince William, which lasted one day like any normal wedding.

See also, the description of gold décor as 'tacky' and 'vulgar'.

The shock that they've dared to invite guests that are not from India! (I believe it was something like "Bollywood but why invite Hollywood")

If this thread's purpose was to discuss the wealth disparity, fair enough. But it's not. It's just a cover for the usual MN racists.

OneTC · 15/07/2024 11:22

People in this country could just send their wedding money to an Indian village family if they actually care though. And they don't. But they'll give a family shit that have given literally hundreds of millions to charity.

Any excessive display of wealth anywhere is about as moral as the next one. Just because you're in England doesn't mean you can have a justifiably fancier wedding, your £££ wedding could have changed lives worldwide, you could all run down Western Union instead, but you don't. But rich Indian people doing rich Indian stuff in India is bad and they should know their place🙄

OrwellianTimes · 15/07/2024 11:36

Respectisnotoptional · 15/07/2024 09:34

Utterly ridiculous to compare this six month fiasco to the wedding of Prince William, which lasted one day like any normal wedding.

Like any British wedding.

Indian weddings are normally multi day events.

HairyToity · 15/07/2024 11:39

I think any event that involves the Kardashians is tacky.

noworklifebalance · 15/07/2024 11:46

OneTC · 15/07/2024 11:22

People in this country could just send their wedding money to an Indian village family if they actually care though. And they don't. But they'll give a family shit that have given literally hundreds of millions to charity.

Any excessive display of wealth anywhere is about as moral as the next one. Just because you're in England doesn't mean you can have a justifiably fancier wedding, your £££ wedding could have changed lives worldwide, you could all run down Western Union instead, but you don't. But rich Indian people doing rich Indian stuff in India is bad and they should know their place🙄

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Exactly.
As I said, a wedding that cost £1000, £10 000, millions will always be money that could have been spent on a charitable cause rather than on a wedding.

Livingtothefull · 15/07/2024 12:27

noworklifebalance · 15/07/2024 10:53

I think we are in agreement? My point is that people/nations in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones and we don’t need to look to far from home for examples of lavish extravagance when a significant percentage of the population are living in poverty.

I certainly agree with you on that essential point.

Marchitectmummy · 15/07/2024 12:33

Im curious as to what level of wealth do people have tbe right to comment on how someone spends their own money? If I have £500k can I spend my money how I choose? What about £1m?

No one has the right to say how these people spend their money, lavish or not its their money. If you want to help out there is nothing stopping you using your own money, it's just slightly less fun than spending someone else's for them isn't it.

Gladtobeout · 15/07/2024 12:41

JudgeJ · 15/07/2024 10:38

Not at all 'sweeping' simply my experience of India a few years ago. The caste system is very entrenched and will continue, until India does more for their poor they are wrong to beg others to do so via TV adverts etc..

Another to add to the casual racism list!

Poor Indians begging on TV.

India in the last 2 decades (at least) has done a lot to try to overcome the inequalities of the caste system, but a system that has been observed for 1000s of years is not going to be undone overnight. There is now a caste affectionately called the "milky layer" where government funded education initiatives encourage those that would otherwise not be able to afford it, access to medical degrees, university and professional qualifications etc. That's more than the UK does for those in poverty! Education poverty has increased exponentially over the last 14 years.

Gladtobeout · 15/07/2024 12:42

In the UK

PurpleFleece · 15/07/2024 12:42

MrsSkylerWhite · 14/07/2024 22:58

It’s disgusting. Lone 3 year olds lay down on cardboard to sleep on the streets where this sickening display is happening. How can they live with themselves? Revolting.
Anyone associated with this ought to be deeply, deeply ashamed of themselves.

I don't like it either but I find it very hypocritical when people in the UK criticise obscene displays of wealth in so called developing countries because

  1. There is plenty of poverty in the UK. There are starving children in the UK. Are you suggesting that any display of wealth in the UK is stopped because of that? If yes, fair play to you. If not, why not?
  1. Is a 3 year old sleeping on a cardboard first and foremost an Indian or a human being? Why do you think you shouldn't be associated with them? Aren't children suffering a source of shame for all of us irrespective of whether we share the same passport or skin colour?
  1. Of all the large businesses in India, Reliance do quite a bit for charity and a lot of good work through their Reliance Foundation. Compared to their vast fortune it is probably still a drop in the ocean for them but it is something.
  1. The real question is why is there so much inequality and what can be done against it? Does it matter what they spend their money on? At least a wedding generates a lot of employment opportunities. No one is any worse off because of this.
MalewhoisLaffinalltheway · 15/07/2024 12:48

Neveranynamesleft · 14/07/2024 21:27

I wonder what sort of gifts they received...

Vouchers probably. John Lewis, Argos...

OneTC · 15/07/2024 12:52

YabaJaba · 15/07/2024 10:07

I've been to India and seen the poverty firsthand. People living Along side a high speed train track, using open spaces to do their toilet, makeshift tent villages alongside main roads. And more. It hit home pretty hard and to see such wealth flaunted disgusts me.

Sounds like Paris

TorroFerney · 15/07/2024 13:15

AutismHelp1980 · 15/07/2024 08:11

I believe they were some bespoke designers jobbies! But yes why not wear shoes. Doesn’t mean they have class if they’re rich. But I find so many rich people don’t have class, they’re just tacky.

Apparently the groom has severe asthma and has lots of steroids hence the weight?

I think they have said that the steroids increased his appetite. In one photo it was clear that he has the same body shape as his dad, although his dad is not quite as large. The way his dad led him out holding his hand looked odd, sure it was a gesture of love but looked strangely infantilising also the way he and other celebs posed so their expensive watches could be seen, the Jonas chap particularly.

TorroFerney · 15/07/2024 13:18

Whatabonkersworld · 15/07/2024 08:26

It's pretty obscene when you consider if they donated just a small amount of the wedding budget annually, the UK would no longer need to send aid to India.

Christ, £2.3 billion sent since 2016.

PermanentTemporary · 15/07/2024 13:57

'Overseas aid' is highly linked with trade deals. I'd think of it more as a fee to be able to flog more of our stuff, than some kind of charity payment. I don't know if that makes it better or worse.