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To find the Ambani wedding distasteful

414 replies

Soonenough · 14/07/2024 21:06

I know everyone can do what they like , it's their money . But such an extravagant event in a place where a large proportion of the population live in slum conditions is rather unsettling.? Plus the bride is stunning but the groom unfortunately does not come across as an individual with a lot

of intelligence . Before I get flamed , he and his family are encouraging the public to view them and I guess are expecting admiration.

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Hawkinsresident · 18/07/2024 18:52

Gladtobeout · 18/07/2024 11:53

UK:

Poverty has increased, close to pre-pandemic levels

More than 1 in 5 people in the UK (22%) were in poverty in 2021/22 – 14.4 million people.23 Jan 2024

India:

According to research by the State Bank of India, released in February 2024, the poverty rate in the country fell to 4.5-5 percent in 2022-23.

The Ambanis donated £66 mil in 2020 as well as funding the initial COVID response.

Now, please do tell me how this thread is not a racist rant from most of you, and how if this family were a rich white family of similar standing, you would be posting the same comments. If Bill Gates spent this amount on his children's wedding, no one would bat an eye.

*"Pictures of the marriage of Bill and Melinda Gates’ eldest daughter, Jennifer, and her equestrian sweetheart, Nayel Nassar, emerged this week and they paint a picture of a lavish farm wedding set amongst the autumn leaves.

Reports this week suggest the pair’s 300 guests were treated to two ceremonies, a lavish brunch and a performance from Coldplay - as long as they’d had the vaccine and tested negative for Covid.

According to the bride herself, the star-studded three-day event felt like an “otherworldly fairyale”, with decadent white floral decorations, hanging yellow lights and a roster of celebrity wedding planners behind the venue, food and drink."*

Do you not think a 3 day "white wedding" (unlike a traditional Indian wedding) is absurd? Or hiring a famous band? Multiple outfits?

No. It's just when brown people do it that it's a problem.

THIS ….Well said 🙌

@Soonenough please respond to above. You need unconscious bias training

marcopront · 18/07/2024 18:55

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 18:43

@marcopront - you can access all the news reports for yourself.

The news reports say
The wedding happened
Monsoon flooding happened

Please share a link to the one saying they are related.

Monsoon is particularly heavy here at the moment. Not much until July 8th but since then it has been very heavy. The flooding is related to the amount of rain not the wedding

Hawkinsresident · 18/07/2024 18:56

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 14:41

I started this thread and it has evolved into very distinct categories. Unfortunately the poor will always be with us in every civilization . Individually we can only do so much but to try to be aware and compassionate . The vulgar display of wealth and all the participants like Boris and performers who took the money should be ashamed . There is no comparison to an extravagant wedding in any culture .Others have had extravagant events but didnt open it to social media or pay so called celebrities to attend . It was a display of obscene wealth juxtaposed next to some of the most poverty stricken in the world , specifically in Mumbai . Are the Ambani displaying this to share their joy in the marriage? My arse. Vulgar, tone deaf display in order to portray their power and position .

You know nothing about the Ambanis… seriously stop embarrassing yourself. Everyone has tried educating you and now giving up.

Grammarnut · 18/07/2024 19:12

TakeMe2Insanity · 18/07/2024 15:41

I read a stat somewhere that basically said it was the world’s cheapest wedding in that it only cost 0.05% of their wealth.

I find that obscene.

Lalgarh · 18/07/2024 19:22

If it helps, at least 30% of rural India was under the control of Maoist guerillas in the 2000s

Oddly, People in those areas didn't get improvements in welfare 👵🤐

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 19:48

marcopront · 18/07/2024 18:55

The news reports say
The wedding happened
Monsoon flooding happened

Please share a link to the one saying they are related.

Monsoon is particularly heavy here at the moment. Not much until July 8th but since then it has been very heavy. The flooding is related to the amount of rain not the wedding

Try The Washington Post and BBC News, and Reuters. Quote from BBC News, which is at least quite muted in its reporting of criticism, “But the extraordinary opulence has also led to a backlash.
People living in the city have complained that road closures have worsened traffic problems caused by monsoon flooding, while others have questioned the ostentatious display of wealth.”
Imvho, it would be alarmingly obsequious for no criticism to come out of months of celebrations. Even one day for a coronation was disruptive enough in the UK. Why pretend one family’s endless partying is not actually disruptive for ordinary people? Has any gain been worth the expense and disruption for the vast majority of those people? It would be nice to know.

HRTQueen · 18/07/2024 19:48

I have been to many Indian/south Asian weddings that are always extravagant

cant see how it is different to our royal weddings just more colourful and certainly more fun

I wouldn’t have said no to an invite

Walkaround · 18/07/2024 19:49

Ps the road closures were specifically for the wedding.

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 23:26

@Hawkinsresident Why the hostility? You realise the majority of responders also found this distasteful? Nobody is educating me . The only person being embarrassing is you . No need to get personal FFS . And are you on first name terms with the Ambani family.

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HucklefinBerry · 19/07/2024 03:43

socialdilemmawhattodo · 14/07/2024 21:34

I agree with the distaste. These are private people, no matter how wealthy. So different to any of the Royal or celebrity weddings which seem relatively quite cheap in comparison.

Private people at least pay for their own wedding and security

marcopront · 19/07/2024 04:09

@Walkaround

Your quote is

People living in the city have complained that road closures have worsened traffic problems caused by monsoon flooding, while others have questioned the ostentatious display of wealth.”

How does this say the wedding caused the monsoon flooding?

Gingerdancedbackwards · 19/07/2024 05:41

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 11:42

@Gingerdancedbackwards Because those other examples are not flooding social media . The majority of people in Mumbai are living in property. Wouldn't matter what country this display was in. I just find the whole concept distasteful.

So given the poverty in this country, you're happy with footballers on £3/400k a week parading up and down a field every saturday?

All relative

Walkaround · 19/07/2024 07:51

marcopront · 19/07/2024 04:09

@Walkaround

Your quote is

People living in the city have complained that road closures have worsened traffic problems caused by monsoon flooding, while others have questioned the ostentatious display of wealth.”

How does this say the wedding caused the monsoon flooding?

@marcopront - you are self-evidently misinterpreting what I originally said. Am I also misinterpreting what you said when you wrote that there was no connection made between the wedding and the flooding???

Walkaround · 19/07/2024 07:56

@marcopront Basically, if lots of roads were flooded and unflooded roads were closed for the benefit of one family’s wedding so that I could not avoid flooded roads, I would be pissed off with the wedding. Clearly many residents of Mumbai felt the same way. It’s really not hard to understand if you are not deliberately misinterpreting other people.

marcopront · 19/07/2024 08:19

Walkaround · 19/07/2024 07:56

@marcopront Basically, if lots of roads were flooded and unflooded roads were closed for the benefit of one family’s wedding so that I could not avoid flooded roads, I would be pissed off with the wedding. Clearly many residents of Mumbai felt the same way. It’s really not hard to understand if you are not deliberately misinterpreting other people.

My apologies for thinking when you said "worsening monsoon flooding" you meant making the flooding worse not compounding the effects of the flooding.

There is always flooding in monsoon, there are always roads closed. Indian weddings often block roads. I travelled in South Mumbai last Thursday traffic was not worse than usual.

GrouachMacbeth · 19/07/2024 08:33

The issue is the fact the media are giving it such attention. Large groups of the media love to feature the rich, the titled, the highly paid - is it rubbing the noses of the plebs in the dirt? It certainly does not promote freedom, democracy and social improvements.

Hawkinsresident · 19/07/2024 08:39

Soonenough · 18/07/2024 23:26

@Hawkinsresident Why the hostility? You realise the majority of responders also found this distasteful? Nobody is educating me . The only person being embarrassing is you . No need to get personal FFS . And are you on first name terms with the Ambani family.

Lol. You are 4,500 miles away from a celebration of a private business family in a nation where you have no idea about its culture, precedence, history, or economic growth. And you create a thread to gather opinions about your petty thoughts. So, you think I’m getting personal?

The gap between developed and developing nations is closing, so I can understand unease within geopolitics, but why is an average Joe getting worked up?

Looks like you have an agenda. I frankly think this is bigotry and am offended by your thought process.

As far as my connection with Ambanis, they have contributed to the nation-building of my home country and made me and my loved ones money through their awesome stock market performances.

deeahgwitch · 19/07/2024 12:13

Bad things happen because good people say/do nothing.

Just sayin.

Soonenough · 19/07/2024 12:26

@Hawkinsresident They could have kept it private then . Mumsnet IS for petty thoughts . Guess your family benefitted from their wealth . Culture has nothing to do with it , didn't know expensive watches, Z celebrities, diamond encrusted Rolls were culturally significant at weddings .
Seems to me that you think the best form of defense is attack . Please don't

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Walkaround · 19/07/2024 16:04

marcopront · 19/07/2024 08:19

My apologies for thinking when you said "worsening monsoon flooding" you meant making the flooding worse not compounding the effects of the flooding.

There is always flooding in monsoon, there are always roads closed. Indian weddings often block roads. I travelled in South Mumbai last Thursday traffic was not worse than usual.

@marcopront So are you saying that the BBC, Washington Post and Reuters were lying that residents of Mumbai were particularly angered by key roads being closed specifically for the wedding (quote from BBC, “Key roads in Mumbai are being sealed off for several hours a day until the festivities end on Monday”), or are you claiming that closing key roads in Mumbai for several hours a day is normal for an Indian wedding, even if this means that normal people are unable to avoid monsoon flooding as a result, thus making the effects of the flooding much worse than should be the case?

marcopront · 19/07/2024 18:25

@Walkaround

Firstly I like the way you completely ignore the fact you wrongly said the wedding caused monsoon flooding.

Secondly I would have more faith in an article from the Times of India than one from western press.

Of course there are people who have complained but my experience being in Mumbai and talking to Mumbaikers doesn't match your opinions.

Walkaround · 19/07/2024 21:28

@marcopront I did not say the wedding caused monsoon flooding… I said it worsened it - and if I were forced to go through flooded roads because unflooded ones had been closed off for a wedding, I would most certainly as a result perceive this as the wedding making the flooding worse, because the more people forced into it, the worse the flooding is.

In return, I like the way you said “The news reports say
The wedding happened
Monsoon flooding happened

Please share a link to the one saying they are related.”

And then when given several examples of news outlets that do just that, you failed to acknowledge it and instead said that you had no trouble driving through Mumbai on Thursday.

This is from an Indian source, since you prefer that, which is fair enough:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/mumbai-traffic-restrictions-for-anant-ambani-radhika-merchant-wedding-spark-outrage-101720255902005.html

And this BBC report highlights why many are concerned about the excesses of a tiny global elite, of which the Ambani family are one:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c87repz4yx8o

Mumbai Traffic Police has announced some curbs around the time of Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant's wedding.

Outrage over Mumbai traffic curbs for Anant Ambani-Radhika Merchant wedding: ‘public inconvenience’

Mumbai Traffic Police has announced traffic curbs in the city's BKC area between July 12 to 15 for Anant Ambani and Radhika Merchant's wedding.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/trending/mumbai-traffic-restrictions-for-anant-ambani-radhika-merchant-wedding-spark-outrage-101720255902005.html

ThisDaringGoldHedgehog · 20/07/2024 09:23

Walkaround · 19/07/2024 16:04

@marcopront So are you saying that the BBC, Washington Post and Reuters were lying that residents of Mumbai were particularly angered by key roads being closed specifically for the wedding (quote from BBC, “Key roads in Mumbai are being sealed off for several hours a day until the festivities end on Monday”), or are you claiming that closing key roads in Mumbai for several hours a day is normal for an Indian wedding, even if this means that normal people are unable to avoid monsoon flooding as a result, thus making the effects of the flooding much worse than should be the case?

It is actually more than normal for weddings to cause chaos with traffic! I’ve been to lots of weddings (in India) and parades down main roads to the venues is perfectly normal. Sometimes the roads are closed sometimes they aren’t.