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Not to understand why people keep asking about child friendly places to watch the England football match tonight?

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verdantverdure · 14/07/2024 14:16

What am I missing?

I’ve seen a lot of people asking for ‘child-friendly’ places to watch the Euro 2024 final tonight, what's that about?

OP posts:
AzureAnt · 14/07/2024 16:09

Your own home in front of the TV

Collexifon · 14/07/2024 16:09

PerkyMintDeer · 14/07/2024 16:08

Because it's at the very least a potentially historic event if we win and "I was at home in my PJs" isn't as exciting a place as sharing an environment with other people rooting for the National Team.

Mum, Dad and siblings jumping up and down in jubilation is nice but not the same as when a busy, happy environment with lots of people are celebrating. It's nice to get dressed up for the event with kits and faceprint etc, sing football chants with others, celebrate in a bigger way - for some families.

With lots of alcohol, loutish behaviour, people who don't like having kids in public spaces, there are a lot of venues which are showing the game on a big scale but not appropriate or safe for kids.

Several venues in my hometown are having "family friendly football screenings" where keeping things, "clean", "sober-ish" and totally safe for children is the priority. They're having games at half time, "characters" to visit the kids, mini discos with songs like Sweet Caroline and Freed from Desire etc for them to dance to...That sounds way more fun and yes, "child friendly" for many kids than being at home might be. One of the venues is the (church) school hall, so kids will be able to experience this with their classmates and friends in a way they wouldn't if all of them were at home.

Ultimately, you know what your kids would prefer and if it's staying at home, fair enough, but it's pretty joyless to declare that the living room is the most child-friendly place there is for every child. I mean, why do anything? Why go to the cinema when you have a TV at home? Why have a sleepover at someone else's house when you have a perfectly good bed at home? Why eat out when you can eat at home? Because sometimes it's more entertaining to do stuff outside of the house, and there are many reasons watching the England/Spain Final in a child friendly space would be more entertaining, fun, momentous, sociable than being on the sofa in pjs.

And I say that as someone who is neurodivergent and detests leaving the house.

Great post. 👍🏻

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 14/07/2024 16:10

JudgeJ · 14/07/2024 16:00

Or maybe the parents need to accept that a latish night at a pub with all the problems there will be if the result isn't what's wanted is not a place for a child. The world does not exist to make parents' lives easy, they should be taking responsibility for their children and staying at home. I'm sure a lot of people going to the pub to watch it will pray there won't be a load of whiny kids there to spoil the adult evening.

Well let’s hope you’re not there then.

GoingDownLikeBHS · 14/07/2024 16:10

I scrolled through 7 pages get here and simply find @AzureAnt has said it all. Sit in your own home FFS, that's surely child friendly if you have a child?!

FuzzyStripes · 14/07/2024 16:11

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No, they are asking for child friendly places which is very different to pubs. Yes, some pubs might be appropriate but more likely they are asking where there are big screens up on village greens, cricket or tennis clubs opening up with wide spaces for children to play, school/sports centres or village halls doing the same, or venues other than pubs that they can go to.

Everyone knows you can go to the pub to watch the football. What they don’t necessarily know is where else they can watch it, especially if they have children and aren’t looking to get drunk.

I can’t understand why so many people read child friendly football and the only conclusion they come up with is pub.

x2boys · 14/07/2024 16:11

JudgeJ · 14/07/2024 16:00

Or maybe the parents need to accept that a latish night at a pub with all the problems there will be if the result isn't what's wanted is not a place for a child. The world does not exist to make parents' lives easy, they should be taking responsibility for their children and staying at home. I'm sure a lot of people going to the pub to watch it will pray there won't be a load of whiny kids there to spoil the adult evening.

There are different types of pubs , ones that cater to families is going to attract very different clientel to one's that cater to hardened drinkers

Gogogo12345 · 14/07/2024 16:11

JudgeJ · 14/07/2024 16:00

Or maybe the parents need to accept that a latish night at a pub with all the problems there will be if the result isn't what's wanted is not a place for a child. The world does not exist to make parents' lives easy, they should be taking responsibility for their children and staying at home. I'm sure a lot of people going to the pub to watch it will pray there won't be a load of whiny kids there to spoil the adult evening.

Why are you going on about pubs?

DoreenonTill8 · 14/07/2024 16:13

Stoptherideiwanttogetoff24 · 14/07/2024 16:04

People are too stupid to read the actual post and love being sanctimonious

Yep, and now the word 'pub' seems so odd.
Pub, pub, pub.

MeinKraft · 14/07/2024 16:13

GoingDownLikeBHS · 14/07/2024 16:10

I scrolled through 7 pages get here and simply find @AzureAnt has said it all. Sit in your own home FFS, that's surely child friendly if you have a child?!

Why aren't kids allowed to go and have fun at big events too Confused bizarre how many people on mumsnet hate children.

GreenWheat · 14/07/2024 16:14

Ifeellikeateenageragain · 14/07/2024 16:05

They're asking for child friendly places, not child friendly pubs. Are you being deliberately dense?

This thread has revealed a worrying correlation between disapproving of people enjoying football and an inability to read.

MoonlightFarrow · 14/07/2024 16:14

I’m not sure where some people get the idea that all pubs will be rammed with obnoxious drinks screaming and throwing beer at each other. Some will, obviously, but a lot of pubs are a perfectly pleasant, good humoured, sedate place to watch the match, and would be fine for an older kid for a one off. Also not sure what’s wrong with people asking about kid friendly options, like showings in a community centre? Truly weird post.

PerkyMintDeer · 14/07/2024 16:15

None of the "family friendly football" venues I've mentioned in my posts are pubs.....

Theatre.

Cinema.

Civic Centre.

School and Church Hall.

Small scale "social" club (i.e Conservative Club)

Cricket Club.

Our local football ground.

Scout Hut.

Dance school.

Large scale Soft Play.

MeinKraft · 14/07/2024 16:16

Anyway for anyone who's been wondering this, check with your local football club, they'll probably have it on and the kids can go and kick about on the pitches. They might even have shock horror the bar open.

EarthlyNightshade · 14/07/2024 16:16

JudgeJ · 14/07/2024 16:00

Or maybe the parents need to accept that a latish night at a pub with all the problems there will be if the result isn't what's wanted is not a place for a child. The world does not exist to make parents' lives easy, they should be taking responsibility for their children and staying at home. I'm sure a lot of people going to the pub to watch it will pray there won't be a load of whiny kids there to spoil the adult evening.

If football was only for adults, there would be no games to watch, as no youngsters would be developed to play.
Do you actually think that only adults want to watch - my teens and most of their friends have been talking about this for ages.

I think if you are in the pub tonight and your evening is spoiled, it is most likely to be by some of the other adults, and not the so-called whiny kids.

Loads of people upthread have given examples of family friendly places near them, yet a small number of posters seem to be fixated on pubs.

MeinKraft · 14/07/2024 16:18

'I'm sure a lot of people going to the pub to watch it will pray there won't be a load of whiny kids there to spoil the adult evening.'

They can stay at home then they're guaranteed an adult friendly experience

x2boys · 14/07/2024 16:18

MoonlightFarrow · 14/07/2024 16:14

I’m not sure where some people get the idea that all pubs will be rammed with obnoxious drinks screaming and throwing beer at each other. Some will, obviously, but a lot of pubs are a perfectly pleasant, good humoured, sedate place to watch the match, and would be fine for an older kid for a one off. Also not sure what’s wrong with people asking about kid friendly options, like showings in a community centre? Truly weird post.

Indeed
It's been a long time since i watched a match in a pub ,it was pre kids and my oldest is 18 this year
But I remember a lot of friendly banter and singing maybe I just went to.more civilised places but i don't remember aggressive thugs who couldn't contain themselves ,when their team lost.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 14/07/2024 16:19

I’m frustrated the match is so late. Many kids love football so I can’t understand why the final starts at 8pm instead of 6pm. Surely it wouldn’t have been that hard to schedule it a couple of hours early.

last Saturday, half my neighbourhood were in the child friendly pub. This game started at 5pm. The atmosphere was electric.

Especiallymoist · 14/07/2024 16:19

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Collexifon · 14/07/2024 16:22

Whenwillitgetwarm · 14/07/2024 16:19

I’m frustrated the match is so late. Many kids love football so I can’t understand why the final starts at 8pm instead of 6pm. Surely it wouldn’t have been that hard to schedule it a couple of hours early.

last Saturday, half my neighbourhood were in the child friendly pub. This game started at 5pm. The atmosphere was electric.

😂😂

GreenWheat · 14/07/2024 16:23

Whenwillitgetwarm · 14/07/2024 16:19

I’m frustrated the match is so late. Many kids love football so I can’t understand why the final starts at 8pm instead of 6pm. Surely it wouldn’t have been that hard to schedule it a couple of hours early.

last Saturday, half my neighbourhood were in the child friendly pub. This game started at 5pm. The atmosphere was electric.

I think it's to allow for the North and South American TV audience but I could be wrong.

lanthanum · 14/07/2024 16:23

brightyellowflower · 14/07/2024 14:19

I don't understand either. Pubs are for drinking and swearing. No way should adults have to mind what they're doing to accommodate the parents who simply can't be arsed to sit and watch it in their own living rooms.

That's why the parents are asking about child-friendly places. There might well be community centres or other venues which are doing screenings aimed at families.

Revelatio · 14/07/2024 16:24

I feel a bit sorry for all these people living next to awful pubs with sweary drunk hooligans. Possibly this is just my north London bubble, but I don’t know any pubs like this that people bring children to. Most are extremely family friendly, full of children, great selection of food and drinks, games, excellent toilets and baby changing facilities. I once went to parents/baby wine and cheese tasting session (nobody got drunk, made new friends and was something a bit different).

I don’t find it odd at all that people want to go out with friends and families and watch the football, it’s such a rare occasion. Do people really have that little empathy and think everyone lives in the same area? I think it’s just another excuse to judge people’s parenting decisions personally.

Whenwillitgetwarm · 14/07/2024 16:24

I guarantee that in Spain, bars will be showing the game and they will be full of families including young kids in buggies. Nobody will bat an eyelid either or claim the parents are bad parents.

It’s a national event and on occasions like this it’s completely normal for people to want it to be a communal experience.

Chellybelle · 14/07/2024 16:24

Does it matter? You can't understand kids in pubs, so just don't take your own kids to a pub. Why are you arsed?

LuckySantangelo35 · 14/07/2024 16:27

GoingDownLikeBHS · 14/07/2024 16:10

I scrolled through 7 pages get here and simply find @AzureAnt has said it all. Sit in your own home FFS, that's surely child friendly if you have a child?!

@GoingDownLikeBHS @AzureAnt

thats boring though. People like the crowd atmosphere