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Is your school allowing children to come in late on Monday because of the football?

177 replies

LegoTherapy · 12/07/2024 20:07

I've had an email today saying that primary dc can go in late on Monday if they are staying up to watch the football on Sunday night. They are usually really strict on punctuality and how much they miss by being just 5 minutes late but they have said that being 90 minutes late won't cause them to miss any lesson time!
I recall this for something last year too.
Is your school doing this? Is your child sleeping in on Monday morning after the late night watching football?
I'm not into football at all so I might be biased against this.
Aibu to think that schools shouldn't adjust the school day timings to allow for late nights to watch sport?

OP posts:
sashh · 13/07/2024 04:53

LegoTherapy · 12/07/2024 20:32

Ds can go in at 10.30am. He'll be in at 8.45am as normal because I need to get on to work.
I wonder if the new HT is a big football fan because no way would the previous HT have allowed this.
I'm with Guy Martin on this one. I wonder if school would allow ds to go in late to watch other sporting events that might be on late? I doubt it.
I also wonder if they are thinking that parents might get drunk and be unfit to drive their dc to school?
What will the school staff be doing for those 90 mins in the morning instead of teaching??

Nursing their hangovers if they are football fans.

@Timeturnerplease may I suggest a game of sleeping lions?

Combattingthemoaners · 13/07/2024 05:51

They know some parents will keep their kids off because they are tired so they are removing that excuse.

kierenthecommunity · 13/07/2024 06:37

LegoTherapy · 12/07/2024 20:32

Ds can go in at 10.30am. He'll be in at 8.45am as normal because I need to get on to work.
I wonder if the new HT is a big football fan because no way would the previous HT have allowed this.
I'm with Guy Martin on this one. I wonder if school would allow ds to go in late to watch other sporting events that might be on late? I doubt it.
I also wonder if they are thinking that parents might get drunk and be unfit to drive their dc to school?
What will the school staff be doing for those 90 mins in the morning instead of teaching??

Well Guy, I think any form of motor racing, (I imagine bikes isn’t on the same scale as the cars tbh in terms of £££ admittedly) is just a load of millionaires driving vehicles around a track for what seems like 4 hours. And is as dull as bricks 💤

Be a boring old world if we all liked the same things.

(I’m guessing the meme won’t show but it’s the overpaid blokes kicking a bag of pigskin around one)

Sirzy · 13/07/2024 06:44

What will the school staff be doing for those 90 mins in the morning instead of teaching??

probably working through the long to do list most school staff have at this point in the year!

AcademicsAgain · 13/07/2024 06:51

RobinHood19 · 12/07/2024 21:11

And for the “spare a thought for the teachers who also won’t be sleeping much” - isn’t that true for all of us?

I have a 9am flight on Monday so need to leave the hotel by 7am - luckily it’s one close to the airport. I’m also ahead of the UK time-wise, so I might get 5-6 hours sleep at best. I am the one choosing to watch the match 😂

I will be up at 5 as usual for my NHS role as usual and will choose to watch. It’s weird all this sympathy for these ‘poor teachers’! Who are about to embark upon a large period of leave anyway ;-)

AcademicsAgain · 13/07/2024 06:53

user1984778379202 · 12/07/2024 21:26

Sorry, but catching an early flight is nothing like having to teach a class of 30 kids when you are knackered!

How about those in the nhs having to do a shift on the ward or in a and e? You are talking about your fragile husband as if he is about to go to war! Has he never had a late night before?!

AcademicsAgain · 13/07/2024 06:55

PregnantWithHorrors · 12/07/2024 22:03

Schools are doing this because they know full well that loads of kids will be late or off entirely if they do. It's a very practical decision and people are being silly complaining.

But not all schools are doing this. I wonder if it’s in areas with low parental engagement and poor attendance anyway?

1AngelicFruitCake · 13/07/2024 06:55

See this really annoys me because my children have to go in on time due to us both being at work. Another thing to feel guilty about!

Barnabyby · 13/07/2024 06:59

All people seem to want to do nowadays is moan about schools and teachers.
No wonder teachers have had enough.

TeenDivided · 13/07/2024 07:00

I think it is pragmatic.

TheRustyAnchor · 13/07/2024 07:01

No but it’s sports day, so not only are the children expected to be in early, the parents are too 😂

LuluBlakey1 · 13/07/2024 07:02

No.

Calmestofallthechickens · 13/07/2024 07:08

My kids’ school are doing this (in by 10am) - I think it’s a good idea, if the kids will stay up anyway then they’ll learn more having had an hour lie in and enough sleep.

What did annoy me however is that (as is a pattern for the school) it seems to forget that we aren’t all stay at home parents… My job doesn’t start an hour later after football, so my kids will be going to the childminder at 8 so I can get to work!

Noosnom · 13/07/2024 07:13

No, it's a secondary.
The head is allowing them to wear football tops if we win through. I'm especially angry about it as they won't tweak uniform for children with sensory needs but will for football 🤬.

user1984778379202 · 13/07/2024 08:01

AcademicsAgain · 13/07/2024 06:53

How about those in the nhs having to do a shift on the ward or in a and e? You are talking about your fragile husband as if he is about to go to war! Has he never had a late night before?!

I said that in context of him being in the pub late watching it and then having to teach a class of 30 pre-teens in the morning. But nice bit of teacher bashing there. Bravo.

PregnantWithHorrors · 13/07/2024 08:01

LegoTherapy · 12/07/2024 23:44

www.facebook.com/share/r/VHGnPBUuuapzjtzu/?mibextid=UalRPS

We are huge motorbike racing fans here. Don't think the HT would like me keeping ds off for a race though. Luckily the TT was in half term.

I've just told Dd about it and she thinks it's ridiculous. She's in year 10 and her school is not allowing students in later.

It's not like the head will actually do anything meaningful if you do though, is it? Unless you're about to drip feed that you're on an attendance improvement plan or something, you'll clearly be able to get away with sending DC in 90 minutes late at the same frequency as England make a final during term time.

PregnantWithHorrors · 13/07/2024 08:03

AcademicsAgain · 13/07/2024 06:55

But not all schools are doing this. I wonder if it’s in areas with low parental engagement and poor attendance anyway?

I don't know, but maybe. The attendance rates are one obvious reason why a school might have to be pragmatic. A head working in a school with significant attendance problems probably couldn't indulge herself with some of the more overblown and unrealistic criticisms we've seen on this thread.

user1984778379202 · 13/07/2024 08:10

Barnabyby · 13/07/2024 06:59

All people seem to want to do nowadays is moan about schools and teachers.
No wonder teachers have had enough.

I know. Should've realised this thread would turn into teacher bashing. Three staff from my DP's school are quitting this summer to leave the profession. Sick of the workload, the bureaucracy and the toxicity of parents, which includes thinking they have easy jobs because they have generous holiday entitlement (while conveniently overlooking teachers don't get paid for it!) and yet moan when their school has to use supply staff because they can't recruit. If he wasn't a few years off retiring he'd do the same.

WickedSerious · 13/07/2024 08:20

ClevererThanMost · 12/07/2024 20:43

Not in Wales, no! 😂😂😂

I suspected as much.😀

philosoppee · 13/07/2024 08:25

LegoTherapy · 12/07/2024 21:34

@Willsean no, I don't think they are robots that are just switched on Hmm Lots of children will be in at the usual time so I'm wondering what those children will be doing in those 90 minutes if they are not having any lessons.

This is crazy. You are honestly concerned that your child might have a chilled out 90 minutes at school over the school year? So concerned you start a thread about it? What does it matter what they do for 90 minutes in the last week of term. Something fun hopefully!

silverhamster · 13/07/2024 08:29

I really don't understand all this fuss...it's just the Euros not the World Cup. There wasn't talk of a bank holiday or late starts when the women's team made it to the World Cup final last year.

kierenthecommunity · 13/07/2024 08:35

user1984778379202 · 12/07/2024 21:26

Sorry, but catching an early flight is nothing like having to teach a class of 30 kids when you are knackered!

100% not teacher bashing here, as I have massive respect for anyone crying to cram knowledge into my disinterested DS’s head let alone the other 29 kids…

But your later post refers to your teacher DH bring knackered after watching the game in the pub. Presumably he’s not getting hammered on a school night?

And even if it went to penalties surely could be in bed by 11? And has to be in, say, 8am?

if an adult bloke is knackered under those circs he may need his thyroid checking or something

PregnantWithHorrors · 13/07/2024 08:38

silverhamster · 13/07/2024 08:29

I really don't understand all this fuss...it's just the Euros not the World Cup. There wasn't talk of a bank holiday or late starts when the women's team made it to the World Cup final last year.

That was in the middle of the school holidays and held in the morning, so the issue of late starts didn't arise. I'd agree the men's is still considered the bigger deal, and I say this as someone whose kids actually have been late to school because of women's football. But it's not a like for like comparison.

FrenchFancie · 13/07/2024 09:04

I think it depends on if the HT is a football fan!

dds primary they are allowed to wear ‘England themed’ clothes on Monday but usual start time. The school I work at, with an HT who really really doesn’t like football, said ‘oh are they playing? Oh that’s going to be a nuisance with the year 6 boys’ and left it at that!!

(football also banned on the playground this week as all the lads were getting too rough. She really doesn’t like football!!)

Aria20 · 13/07/2024 09:19

I have 3 in 3 diff schools - 1 primary and 2 secondaries and all in at normal time - thank goodness! Youngest is always up at 6 no matter what time she goes to bed anyway so it's not like she'd sleep in if she could go in late!