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To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working

758 replies

BeaQuiet · 10/07/2024 10:23

They've arrived in Washington DC on official business clutching hands like the Macrons, the Obamas and the Sussexes.

AiBU to find it a bit cringey?

And before anyone asks, yes I do have bigger things to worry about but I fancy a chat.

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Janiie · 10/07/2024 19:31

'The disagreement is whether arriving in a plane and descending the steps counts as work'

Hmm. On a private holiday no that isn't work, so clasping hands getting off a plane fine though I've always managed without a handhold tbh. On an official visit that is work. It isn't rocket science .

BustingBaoBun · 10/07/2024 19:33

Why would walking down plane steps with your wife be classed as work? That's a bit strange. Surely it is taking air travel to arrive somewhere ready for work.

prettybird · 10/07/2024 19:38

Absolutely shocking. Should never happen Hmm

To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working
BIossomtoes · 10/07/2024 19:39

Janiie · 10/07/2024 19:31

'The disagreement is whether arriving in a plane and descending the steps counts as work'

Hmm. On a private holiday no that isn't work, so clasping hands getting off a plane fine though I've always managed without a handhold tbh. On an official visit that is work. It isn't rocket science .

It’s not even logical. Unless you think being at work starts before you arrive at your workplace.

prettybird · 10/07/2024 19:44

Checking out about partners attending NATO meetings, I did come across the delicious piece of information that the (male) Luxembourg's PM's husband was seated beside Victor Orban at the NATO state dinner in Spain Grin

Someone was definitely trolling there Wink

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/30/luxembourg-same-sex-husband-seated-viktor-orban-nato-summit

Screamingabdabz · 10/07/2024 19:44

I’m with you op. So unnecessary and baffling. Walk independently ffs.

YANBU

decionsdecisions62 · 10/07/2024 19:50

It beats Rishi striding in front with his wife shuffling behind with her shepherds crook.

Janiie · 10/07/2024 19:56

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2024 19:39

It’s not even logical. Unless you think being at work starts before you arrive at your workplace.

If you're been filmed and featured on the news then yes.

prettybird · 10/07/2024 20:14

If you're been filmed and featured on the news and the expectation is that you hold hands then yes.

See, how the "work" expectation can be flipped. Wink

As a PP said, "Man holds wife's hand shocker" Hmm

Here's another horrific picture of the PM holding hands with his wife, when arriving in Rwanda for a Commonwealth Heads of State meeting Shock Where was the confected outrage then?

To wish Sir Keir and his wife would not hold hands when working
pointythings · 10/07/2024 20:20

prettybird · 10/07/2024 20:14

If you're been filmed and featured on the news and the expectation is that you hold hands then yes.

See, how the "work" expectation can be flipped. Wink

As a PP said, "Man holds wife's hand shocker" Hmm

Here's another horrific picture of the PM holding hands with his wife, when arriving in Rwanda for a Commonwealth Heads of State meeting Shock Where was the confected outrage then?

Oh come on now, that was Boris. Don't you know he doesn't have to abide by any rules? even ones that don't actually exist

Codandchipsandmushyoeas · 10/07/2024 20:21

Plenty of people hold hands for both physical reassurance (anxiety / new situations) or because of balance / mobility issues.

I can manage without my mobility aids for short distances if I have a hand to hold for stability.

some people just like to feel close to their partner. I think it’s nice and also know it helps a lot of people to stay upright!

Doteycat · 10/07/2024 20:23

Confundo · 10/07/2024 19:28

Nah, Leo brought his partner to events. Most notably he brought him along any time he had to visit Mike Pence, which I always found delightful 😁

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/mike-pence-irish-pm-leo-varadkar-partner_n_5c8b0b8ee4b0d7f6b0f17630

Back to the topic though, I think it’s just the done thing if you’re in that sort of role. Just as much as I couldn’t imagine having to put a suit on every day to go to work, different work environments have different expectations. As a politician spouse if you’re not holding hands then you’re aware that it’s just going to become a tabloid story about trouble in the marriage.

Oh i remember that now! Fabulous!

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2024 20:27

pointythings · 10/07/2024 20:20

Oh come on now, that was Boris. Don't you know he doesn't have to abide by any rules? even ones that don't actually exist

Of course everything’s different when it’s Boris, he who can do no wrong.

MrsSkylerWhite · 10/07/2024 21:02

BIossomtoes · Today 20:27

Of course everything’s different when it’s Boris, he who can do no wrong.

Tbh, @Blossomtoes, I’m a bit worried about him, on an human level. He looked bloody awful when he was wheeled out last week. He’s ballooned and was massively red of face. I mean, he’s a cunt but a cunt with lots of children. It’s not their fault that he’s their dad so I hope he’s ok.

BIossomtoes · 10/07/2024 21:07

If he’s not OK it’s his own fault. If ever anyone was in a position to look after their health it’s him.

LittleRedYarny · 10/07/2024 21:10

Well yes it is a work thing, the guy (like all previous PMs except Bo Jo) will never off duty, so holding hands like that isn’t a cardinal sin, besides it’s not like they’re in a cabinet meeting holding hands, they’re getting off a plane and it’s a photo op thing.

For all we know (like previous Pps have said) she could be nervous (thinking here of what Princess Masako went through), or dyspraxic or have a dodgy ankle or something and find a helping hand reassuring.

They seem a nice couple and holding hands isn’t the worst thing a PM has done…

Scammersarescum · 10/07/2024 21:11

He's brand new to the job. Maybe he finds the physical touch of his wife reassurring and supportive.

Yes it work. But it's not in any way comparable to a normal job.

I'm no Starmer fan, but holding his wife's hand is not something I can take issue with.

willstarttomorrow · 10/07/2024 21:12

FFS- we now have a serious PM with a wife who has made the decision to largely stay in the back ground. Every time she does emerge there are several puff pieces in the media about what she is wearing, and now apparently holding hands with her husband is a massive faux pas. I would be more aggrieved if an unelected spouse was influencing the PM in his decision making......(mentioning no names).

Idontknowhatnametochoose · 10/07/2024 21:17

Totally bemused that this is even an issue. The poor bloke has barely been pm 5 minutes.

He's human and entitled to hold his wife's hand if he wants.

newnamethanks · 10/07/2024 21:38

It's a bit much. Holding his wife's hand, staying in the same hotel- bet they're sharing a suite - and spending Friday nights having dinner with his family. Who is this freak? This isn't the kind of behaviour we've come to expect from our politicians. What's going on?

cherish123 · 10/07/2024 21:38

Longma · 10/07/2024 19:31

Ha ha! I think the vast majority of the population across the world disagrees with you on this.
It is far more normal for long term partners to hold hands occasionally than to never do so. It's a very natural and normal gesture.

I disagree with you. The only people I know to hold hands are in new relationships. I never see married couples do this.

pikkumyy77 · 10/07/2024 21:42

cherish123 · 10/07/2024 21:38

I disagree with you. The only people I know to hold hands are in new relationships. I never see married couples do this.

Are you nuts?

Pedallleur · 10/07/2024 21:44

I picture a MN thread where someone says her husband has recently took on a very high flying job involving international travel and meeting many important people. He doesn't want me to go with him. AIBU?
The cries of How dare he and LTB would ring loud. Boris was even dodging his own security team when he went off to Lebdevs villa. Surprised there hasn't been a report that the PM and his wife were seen laughing whilst eating Tofu and reading The Guardian. At our expense!

DramaLlamaBangBang · 10/07/2024 21:45

cardibach · 10/07/2024 14:15

Do the Starmers?
Oh look! No they don’t!

Why is she clapping? She isn't a seal. Why is she wearing those sunglasses? They look too big. Why can't she wear anything but pink? She looks too pink. Why can't she clap lower down? Is she trying to undermine her husband? Why is she even doing anything with her hands apart from occupational therapy? Why are we paying for her to do nothing with her hands when she should be using them to write patient notes at all times?

Houseplanter · 10/07/2024 21:48

Imagine anyone else in a senior role bringing along their spouse. Presumably on expenses. Holding hands with them on the organisations publicity shots. Appearing to need the support of their spouse cos their nervous on in the new role?!

They all look pathetic. Boris. Biden. Trump. Doesn't matter who they are.

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