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Is modern parenting damaging to kids?

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Rainbowsponge · 07/07/2024 18:47

My friend’s husband is a professional in the area of child development and education. He’s taught at numerous schools, SEN schools and is now a researcher. He doesn’t have children, but I do, and yesterday we were talking about the seeming increase in children with anxiety, mental health issues and what he described as ‘delayed adulthood’.

He’s British but his extended family are from India, and he said visits to see them make a striking contrast between how our children are raised and how theirs are raised. He said children are sort of left to run around in packs and find their own amusement from quite a young age, and as a result they seem more mature and confident.

His theory is that we are interrupting normal development opportunities for kids brains, and therefore they’re not properly developing. He thinks we intervene too much in perfectly ordinary learning opportunities, like playground disagreements, and our quest to make sure our children never feel challenged or upset is actually making them more anxious.

He also thinks softer, more modern punishments are bewildering children and reinforcing bad behaviour, leaving them confused about right and wrong. Children read facial expressions, so seeing us look calm/unbothered rather than angry/disappointed when they’ve done something wrong is counterproductive and blocks them from naturally learning human behaviour and socialisation.

I’m not professing to be a perfect parent at all, but it was a really interesting chat and I want to discuss it further!

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marigoldandrose · 10/07/2024 06:13

@WellwellwellInever yeah and the people who don't say please and thank you at least are considered rude

goneveryquiet · 10/07/2024 08:02

marigoldandrose · 10/07/2024 06:13

@WellwellwellInever yeah and the people who don't say please and thank you at least are considered rude

Manners and kindness, acknowledgment of small interactions are important.

Our society doesn't function well without us demonstrating the above.

Our children are the next generation of adults and we need to guide them and explain why these small mannerisms and kindnesses are important.

TerrorOwls · 10/07/2024 12:32

My dc used to get freebies on flights, they were invited to see the cockpit and I was told that my dc were so polite that they had to let me know.
This isn't meant to be a smug post or anything because I swear, the only thing my Dc did was say "yes please" and "thank you" when offered food and drinks. That's it.
They were pretty well behaved too because they had excellent choice of movies and games onboard. And they were over 5 so able to be entertained easily.

It was just surprising to me as it really didn't take much for airline staff to be impressed.

LeslieStone · 10/07/2024 12:38

We should not judge other people's parenting styles. My parents were strict with me when I was younger, but now I thank them from the bottom of my heart.
Exceptions here are emotional and physical abuse.

Missamyp · 10/07/2024 16:46

Caffeineneedednow · 09/07/2024 19:32

They may not say do x or else but it is implied. By that I mean if I dont do my job I will get pulled up on a disciplinary. If I repeatedly don't do my job because I don't feel like it I get fired.

The problem is if the child is asked and says no and then there is no consequence then it is not reflective of real life.

Children are not your employees to order around as you wish. Your role is to nurture them, work with them, and provide guidance when needed. However, providing guidance should be about mentoring, not controlling.
Do you advocate for conducting performance reviews or monitoring key performance indicators and then dismissing them just because they didn't do exactly as you said?

NameChangingtonIII · 11/07/2024 08:37

Rainbowsponge · 08/07/2024 22:43

My very nearly 5 year old has never been on a tablet or my phone. We have a no tablet rule in the house and she won’t get a phone until she’s 11, even then it will be a basic one without smartphone capabilities. When she screamed as you described as a toddler, I ignored it. I would strap her into the car seat or high chair regardless and either try a bit of distraction ‘oooh look a bird’ or she would stop once the food arrived/car started. Either way what I wanted to happen was happening.

Helpful, thank you.

I try to ignore the judgey stares in public (especially public transport) as I really don't want to rely on screens when out.

Caffeineneedednow · 11/07/2024 11:18

Missamyp · 10/07/2024 16:46

Children are not your employees to order around as you wish. Your role is to nurture them, work with them, and provide guidance when needed. However, providing guidance should be about mentoring, not controlling.
Do you advocate for conducting performance reviews or monitoring key performance indicators and then dismissing them just because they didn't do exactly as you said?

No they are not my employee but they do need to fit into society. The argument that if a child refuses to get ready then the consequence is that they are late doesn't work on a week day.

If I am an hour late to work and miss the lecture I was supposed to give to 200 students because my 4 yo didn't feel like getting dressed this morning then damn straight I would be in trouble and repeating this would put my job at risk and therefore my child's home and financial security. This is not a level of power that should be given to a 4 yo.

The argument that if a teenager doesn't need to clean their room is fine untill the food and other crap they have in their room leads to mice in the house which extends beyond the child.

My job as a parent is to make my children well rounded independent adults who understand a degree of responsibility.
Yes this is first done through helping, guiding and showing the way. Start small and build is my approach with my kids so the 18 month old and 4 year old help clear the table, they help clear up the toys and the 12 yo has age appropriate chores that he needs to complete to get his pocket money.

The 4 yo is now responsible for putting away a puzzle himself to keep all the pieces together. I do advocate picking you battles and knowing what a child is capable of. I am not a dictator in my house

However the morning example is one where there is no choice. I need to get to work and you need to go to nursery so yes you need to put your shoes on now and we are going. I anticipate getting dressed is an argument sometimes so we do this first with the rest of the family so he has time for play. However the going is not up for discussion or debate mostly because I can't afford not to work.

Lemondrizzle70 · 02/09/2024 18:50

I feel the same so many young children so behind in development. Children not meeting basic milestones such as walking, talking and potty training. I find schools similar they don’t seem as educated in reading . It’s certainly a worry

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