To feel like Travis Kelce has shown me the way a genuinely interested man acts.

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I am done with the low effort, the excuses, the inconsistency. I am actually disgusted at myself for the total BS I have put up with from men.
Yes I know I'm not a gorgeous billionaire superstar like Taylor Swift but seeing how devoted Travis Kelce is to her has just made a light bulb go off in my head. He is so in love with her that he went to a wedding on Saturday night in LA and then flew to Ireland the next day so that he could surprise her at her concert on Sunday night.
And here I am, taking scraps and actually entertaining this pathetic lukewarm behaviour.
Wtf is wrong with me. Well thank you Travis, you have shown me how a man acts when he is crazy about you. I'm sure Taylor Swift isn't wondering if he will call, or if he will reply to her text or cancel a date or if she's just another one on his roster.
If he wanted to he would springs to mind. I have now entered a new phase and I will now be asking, Would Travis do this with Taylor? Yeah probably not.
Disclaimer. I'm a massive Taylor Swift fan and am over the moon for her and how happy they both are together. I guess I just wish I met men that behaved like Travis.

My mother worked with a woman whose husband was into big shows. He turned up at their office on her birthday with a convertible car wrapped in a huge bow. Everyone trooped out to admire it. He sent huge bouquets of flowers to the office regularly. He had a building company The cars he bought her were always in his name and were sold from under her if he needed a cash injection . He would buy awful houses and expect her to live in them whilst they were done up. He was good at it and they were lovely at the end. She'd come home and find he'd put the latest one on the market. She thought he owned an apartment in Spain that they visited regularly. He did, but 50% of it was owned by a woman his wife knew well. She didn't find out until after he died that they'd had an affair for years and only 50% of the property was coming to her.

Agree with all of this. I was thinking my partner doesn't buy me presents (he would if I asked 😂) but he does all the things similar to stated below. I always feel like I'm his priority.

Re T&T, they live in such a different world, well Travis now in hers. I think she's loving a guy being so open with his 'love' for her after the intensely private relationship she had with Joe Alwyn. I'm a fan so hope this is it for her.

The fact that you think something that takes absolutely zero effort for people like Travis Kelce (that is, flying across the world) is to be lauded shows your judgement is seriously flawed so these 'scraps' you talk of could be perfectly nice gestures.
You are being utterly unreasonable.

Trying to model your relationships on what celebrities do through the lens of the mass media is a surefire way to end up being disappointed and miserable.

You don't know Travis Kelce or Taylor Swift you only know what the media reports about the, true or otherwise.

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But NFL is not big outside the USA.
Except for Americans I've worked with I've known precisely one person in my lifetime who watches NFL.

Nor is anything else you've listed big elsewhere- well at least in the UK. Even now I've become aware of him I still didn't know he did any of those other things. Certainly noone I know had ever heard of him before he started dating Taylor.

You don't know these people, you have no idea what kind of man he really is or what their relationship is actually like in private. They are both public figures who will be hyper-aware of how they present themselves to their fans and the media. You're seeing the bits of the relationship they want you to see, an edited, curated version of them as a couple, all stage-managed by their 'teams'. Maybe they are madly in love, maybe their relationship is great, maybe not, you have no way of knowing.

I agree with PP that it's easy to make big romantic gestures, like flying across the world to see someone for one night, when money is no object and you have staff whose job is to cater to your every whim. He won't even have to organise the romantic gestures himself, all he has to do is show up!

I would also add that grand gestures might he romantic in the moment but they aren't an indication of commitment or devotion, because the only effort required is short term. Booking a plane ticket (or in TK's case having someone else book a plane ticket) takes a hell of a lot less effort than being consistent, patient, reliable, and thoughtful towards your partner day in day out for years.

Basing your threshold for standards in a relationship around what celebrities do for the benefit of publicity is ridiculous.

I have no idea what Travis Kelce is like but grand gestures of love towards the most famous woman on the planet (who is also considerably richer and more powerful than you) tell you nothing about the underlying behaviour in the relationship. He hardly has a choice does he?

He could be an abusive arse behind closed doors.

I reckon they're gonna get married and be divorced within a few years. Just my gut feeling. I don't know them, I hadn't heard of Travis until last year as they have been in the news. Hopefully they prove me very wrong.

1.73 million people in the UK, watched the last Super Bowl live, in the middle of the night on a Sunday.

Lets not pretend nobody in the UK cares about the NFL because you don’t.

Exactly this

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Wouldn't surprise me if the whole relationship was PR. When the times right she'll dump him and find someone else while writing a song about what a jerk he was.

I think it’s great when you find a lightbulb moment that you can use to make sure that you are treated correctly in relationships going forwards.

Mine was watching the film “What dreams may come” with Robin Williams. The character loves his wife so much that he goes to hell to rescue her. I remember watching it in my early twenties and realising that I had such a low bar of what I expected from boyfriends - that we all deserve a partner who would go to actual hell to rescue them. From that day I refused to accept less. I’ve now been with my husband 20 years and we would do anything for each other.

I am also a huge Taylor Swift fan and I too think and hope that her relationship with Travis is lovely and that they seem happy together. I think he genuinely seems delighted to be with her and is extremely proud of her which must be a nice change for her as I fear that she had some experience of dating a man who, while he claimed to know what he was letting himself in for dating a superstar like her, ultimately came to resent her being richer and more successful than him, which must have been pretty dispiriting for her. I feel like Travis' ego is not so fragile that he can't cope with being in a relationship with such a talented and successful woman.
I also think that the two songs from The Tortured Poets Department, So High School and The Alchemy, which are both obviously about Travis are really beautiful and the lyrics are so sweet. I think that TTPD is a masterpiece of an album, another flawless work from Taylor finding her at her creative peak, but given how sad and reflective many of the album's lyrics can be it's lovely to have these optimistic glimpses into her current romantic life amidst all the reflections on past heartbreak!
I'm incredibly lucky because I'm married to a truly wonderful man who constantly makes me feel loved and appreciated, who supports me, cares for me and makes me laugh and who is also my best friend with whom I can discuss anything. I could not adore or appreciate him more, he really is the best. I know how very fortunate I am.

Absolutely. No reason to jet around the world just to prove you’re in love.

Showy gestures performed in public are more about bigging up the giver than the receiver. Don’t be fooled by all this nonsense .

Men aren't a homogenous mass though, are they? They act differently in different situations.

It doesn't sound like Taylor has been treated awfully well by men over the years, if her songs are anything to go by! This one seems almost overly keen and I can't help question if he's enjoying his increased media profile, courtesy of her International fame.

What he does publicly doesn't matter, it's what he does in privately that does. As very few people would know how the private part of the relationship is, then never, ever compare what you have with what she has.

I meant Taylor 'hasn't' been treated awfully well by men - edit button won't work.

Don’t confuse a heavily edited media celebrity ‘reality’ for the actual reality. I bet multiple PR agencies were involved in creating this show. The fact that you think it’s credible shows they’ve done a good job.

These people literally marry for publicity and pick partners on advice from their agents and PR companies. Don’t fall for this c**p.

Eww, why always comments about women?

You definitely deserve a good man, but this is a bit cringe unless you are 14 years old.

No-one knows anything about their relationship in private, they are millionaires in their "honeymoon phase".

My recent ex showed that to me. Actions always. I miss him.

YANBU to set the bar high for your own relationships

YABU to idolise a celeb couple based on the odd grand gesture