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To have felt completely out of my depth?

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Cheeseburger99 · 06/07/2024 16:45

I attended a film/TV club today. Admittedly I'd only seen the first episode of the show being discussed but the group info said that everyone was welcome whether they'd seen it or not, and didn't mind spoilers.
There were about 7 others there, this was my first time attending as I'm relatively new in the city and looking to make new friends.
I felt completely out of my depth. I can discuss general themes but the discussion they had became very philosophical/metaphysical and ime went way beyond the series itself.
It was a very structured event, the host went around the group asking everyone the same question, I honestly didn't know what to say when it came to my turn and asked to skip/have more time to think about it.
I was more than happy to listen to others but I think they had expected everyone to partake in discussion, which is fair enough.
I ended up going early and I'm sure I heard them laughing as I left, even though they'd been polite whilst I was there.
I'm glad I made the effort to go in the first place but I felt quite thick leaving.
I'm educated, have a Master's, can speak other languages and I do enjoy travelling and so on.
I like watching a range of films and series but I just felt completely dense listening to the highbrow discussion. Even if I'd seen the whole series, I didn't feel I'd have been able to relate.
I'm worried this is how people see me, a previous ex implied something like this about me and it made me feel inferior.
I do read, I'm reading a book ATM but I'm a slow reader. I can't say I've read every single classic and I follow current affairs, politics etc. But sometimes I just don't feel smart enough.
Not sure if I'm overthinking it?

OP posts:
itsmylife7 · 07/07/2024 16:58

tomketchup · 07/07/2024 16:50

so if you get “familiar” with being bullied… you ended up getting comfort from it?

The OP isn't about bullying ?

Workoutinthepark · 07/07/2024 16:59

Cheeseburger99 · 06/07/2024 18:04

Don't want to say which show it is in case it's outing, however it wasn't even discussing what happened in future episodes, it was just using the show as a basis for a wider philosophical/metaphysical debate.
Some of them were getting quite heated, it was very much a debate.
I should've watched more but I guess I didn't know what to expect before I went, it was very formal and I didn't expect to be put on the spot, hopefully I'll find another group.

I really want to know the show now 😄

Tbh honest how can you have any idea of the discussion if you've only seen one episode?!

tomketchup · 07/07/2024 16:59

itsmylife7 · 07/07/2024 16:58

The OP isn't about bullying ?

yes but we went off on a tangent about that saying so i listed a few examples

YellowAsteroid · 07/07/2024 18:38

Purplebunnie · 07/07/2024 16:45

A beautiful picture, an enjoyable read. That's enough for me I don't need to dissect it, ask what the artist/writer was trying to portray

But for some of us, analysing the meaning and the beauty is what we like to do.

And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

John Stuart Mill - the arch-rationalist - wrote in his Autobiography that appreciation of beauty and knowledge of how that beauty is achieved are not mutually exclusive. His exact analogy was that knowing that a cloud is made up of droplets of evaporated water doesn't stop us from appreciating their beauty in the sky.

Garlickest · 07/07/2024 19:14

LittleLittleRex · 06/07/2024 18:36

The only part I find odd is that you've felt like this before but still didn't prepare at all. If I was worried about keeping up, I'd do at least the bare minimum - it sounds the opposite of insecure to think you can hold your own doing only 1/7 of what everyone else had done.

You are probably just as smart and capable but you'll find out for sure by making better decisions rather than by getting empty compliments online from people that don't know you. So don't go to a book group without reading the book, don't join a walking group the week you twist your ankle etc. Instead join groups you are genuinely interested in and put a bit more effort in.

I agree with this.

Remember your contribution forms part of the discussion - unless they really are a bunch of arseholes, the group will be looking to enrich itself by introducing different viewpoints. A fresh perspective might be a whole lot better than yet another person going "I see why Julius and Petronella felt the clifftop scene referenced Kierkegaard's fear of freedom, but surely it owes at least as much to the duality of Madeleine's suicide jump in Vertigo?"

I'd add that, even if their current style is just a string of people announcing their opinions with no feedback, it's still worth trying to discuss as that could be what they're lacking. I mean, if you do that and are rebuffed, then maybe it's a group for people who like mini-lectures on film. It's more usual for members to take each other's ideas on board, though.

Writing and directing are crafts, and it can be quite interesting to see what influences the creators themselves brought to the work. Take a look at this article; here's a quote:

Kill Bill remains an astonishing achievement not just in terms of its blue-sky ambition and epic scale, but because it’s the only time Tarantino was able to enjoy the best of both worlds, indulging all his own obscure movie-geek infatuations while also delivering a crowdpleaser for the ages.

Interested? Then go for it! Enjoy yourself 😎

20 Years Ago, 'Kill Bill' Set the Stage for Tarantino's Self-Indulgent Second Phase

The director's 2003 masterpiece marked the point when pared-back plotting turned into protracted pastiche

https://www.esquire.com/uk/culture/a44990071/kill-bill-20-anniversary/

PaminaMozart · 07/07/2024 20:50

"I see why Julius and Petronella felt the clifftop scene referenced Kierkegaard's fear of freedom, but surely it owes at least as much to the duality of Madeleine's suicide jump in Vertigo?"

I'm dying to know where you got this from... 🙃

Garlickest · 07/07/2024 21:12

I made it up 😂

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