To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

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I’m sure I’ll be flamed here . I totally sympathise with the bereaved parents- I can’t stress that enough. I can understand them wanting justice . As we know the driver of the car suffered an epileptic seizure at the wheel - she had no history of epilepsy. I don’t see what she could have done differently. She has to live with what she did although it wasn’t her fault. AIBU to feel quite sorry for her ?

But then some people only have one car
My friend drives one, and it's much needed as it's used off road and to tow, on the fields/hills etc in an area that gets 3ft of snow
But if she decided to drive into say Manchester, she will be in that car as it's her only one

I also might be in one in an urban area but it's work related and not my car

This thread would have gone a very different way if the driver was non white, male, or a lower socio ecomic class.

Yes OP, I share your view. The bereaved parents have lost their children and are bereft with pain and grief; I cannot begin to imagine the torture of their loss and emotions. The driver had an epileptic seizure (not had one previously) that was out of her control. I hope she is able to get some peace as the parents and families of the deceased children do too. May they RIP

I'm also getting "birds of a feather" vibe here

If it was my child I wouldn't let it go easily either. I'd want to know the police had explored every possibility, not just taken the driver's word that she'd had a seizure.

Sirine1708 · Today 17:11
I think it's a very convenient diagnosis - human brain is so complex, they can't prove she didn't have a seizure. Never heard of a person diagnosed with epilepsy at 40 though - I believe if you have it, it starts at the childhood.

Your ignorance is stunning and insulting. Why on earth would you come on and spout rubbish about something you clearly know nothing about ? All sorts of things can cause seizures, and they can start at any age. My sister started having seizures at the age of 67, and has been diagnosed with a brain tumour. Or do you think she is also making up her seizures for convenience, or whatever other batshit nonsense you believe?

Good God.

So being rich is an automatic sign of guilt? Both girls attended a very expensive school so it’s very likely that they came from an equally wealthy background and the families could also afford good legal advice. Much of the investigation will have been focussed on medical evidence and police investigators at the scene. I’m guessing she paid them off too?

Does/Did she have to prove she had a seizure or do the police/CPS have to prove she didn't?

Bearing in mind you can't even spell haemorrhage, I think most of us will probably give your medical 'knowledge' the credit it deserves. Similarly your nasty insinuations regarding the car driver.

Epilepsy is t the only cause of seizures.

My friend had his seizure first late 30s. Also whilst driving. It's pure luck no one was hurt in his case.

Anyone facing this kind of situation would get the best lawyers they could. Wouldn't you? I know I would!

Justice must not only be done – it must be seen to be done.

The latter does not apply in this case. The police investigation needs to be reviewed.

At the very least, evidence of her 'seizure' must be obtained independently, and not just from this lady's doctors.

I said this on the previous discussion and was called a conspiracy theorist.

I think it's fundamentally important.

There are also suggestions (unverified, mind) that the driver has hired a PR firm for reputation management. Which combined with hiring the sort of law firm which normally represents some very high profile people, gives me the sense of someone throwing their wealth at creating a certain impression.

I saw some of the senior staff from this school being interviewed on TV about this and they were extremely unhappy with the whole police investigation and the decision to take no further action. One of the staff had comforted one of the girls as she lay dying.

She was thoughtless enough to be driving a 3.5 tonne vehicle in suburbia.
Her choice of vehicle plus her fit caused the fence to be smashed down and the children to die.

There are simplier words I'm no longer able to spell properly as well, so this is not the one I'm particularly ashamed of.

And who do you think should be allowed to see the evidence, i.e. the poor woman's medical details? Professionals, the parents, or should it be made public to satisfy a bunch of pitchfork wavers on social media?

The subtext if rhe teachers' interviews was that they had evidence they had not been asked for. Eg about what they had witnessed on the day, or something they had seen previously in the driver's behaviour, that gave them cause to disbelieve the epilepsy explanation

THIS. Of course it must be horrendous for her, but her life hasn't been decimated in the same way that it has for the parents, in time, she will be able to move on from this and continue her life.

The parents never will.

I do feel sorry for her. There was an article early on that said she described her as having bitten through her tongue and being delirious. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12279035/amp/Driver-ploughed-Wimbledon-suffered-seizure-bit-tongue-sources-say.html

‘My friend started having seizures in his mid 30’s. They don’t really know why, no other health concerns and he is a fit and healthy man. Very scary tbh.

Your post may be deleted. Same happened in another thread.

I think that's why the parents are upset with the ruling - they are simply not convinced.

It's human nature to want someone to blame. That's what the parents want.

Sadly this appears to be a tragic accident where no one is to blame. Just a horrendous incident caused by a sudden medical occurrence.

There may be an inquest I suspect.

But in this case it's unlikely there will ever be charges made as there was no intention to hurt those children and the woman had no way of knowing she would have a medical episode in the car that dat.

So for those doubting she had a seizure, what’s the alternative, that she purposely mounted the kerb, drove through a fence and straight for a group of children & adults? Anyone that saw the aerial photographs will see she drove in a straight line from the fence to the school. Even if she was distracted enough to mount the kerb and crash through the fence, an automatic response would be to swerve which she didn’t do. The investigation will also have checked her mobile phone and whether she braked.

Rumour is that husband is a fierce lawyer and that the police got scared.

Im a bit flummoxed as to why pple would automatically trust the police and CPS on this while being highly critical about how they handle sexual harassment and rape cases.

there are some massive biases in how police and CPS view things, IMO, and I think they are highly biased towards harassers and drivers.

i dont know how i would cope in her position

It's also worth remembering that the people who are questioning the investigation were likely to have been there on the day. They witnessed this incident unlike the Police did.

I think at best it's a convenient diagnosis. My only hope is that this lady never gets behind the wheel of another car. That would be a massive insult to the memories of both children and their families.