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To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

994 replies

bagpuss90 · 06/07/2024 16:44

I’m sure I’ll be flamed here . I totally sympathise with the bereaved parents- I can’t stress that enough. I can understand them wanting justice . As we know the driver of the car suffered an epileptic seizure at the wheel - she had no history of epilepsy. I don’t see what she could have done differently. She has to live with what she did although it wasn’t her fault. AIBU to feel quite sorry for her ?

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itsjustGin · 06/07/2024 23:54

Podcast84 · 06/07/2024 23:46

She could have had a seizure at home and just never reported it. Everyone is going by her word that she has never had a seizure.

You don't just have random seizures at home and not seek medical help.
Seizures are terrifying, disorientating, often result in other injuries and sometimes result in death.

Not getting medical help after a first seizure would be akin to someone going blind and just shrugging it off and not seeing the doctor about it.

I had a seizure when i was 33. It is the only one i've ever had, thankfully i was not behind the wheel. It resulted in 3 days in hospital and The discovery that my vitamin B12 levels were so low they were in mu boots and causing neurological issues including this seizure.
Course of B12 injections and a treatment plan going forward and im fine now. Haven't had another and its been 6 years now.

oakleaffy · 06/07/2024 23:56

lemmein · 06/07/2024 23:31

I hope they test her for ''recreational substances'', too. They can bring on seizures.

You don't think they've done that already? 🙃

Not necessarily - They would have if she was someone from the local Council Estate, but a more ''middle class'' person can get away with more. Police can be biased.

lemmein · 07/07/2024 00:00

Not necessarily - They would have if she was someone from the local Council Estate, but a more ''middle class'' person can get away with more. Police can be biased.

I think some of you should be tested for recreational substances!

Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes really, really terrible things happen and no-one is to blame.

HungryLittleCrocodile · 07/07/2024 00:02

lemmein · 06/07/2024 23:49

And she might be telling the truth?

Why are people so determined to see this as anything but a tragic accident? I don't understand.

Why do you think some people are not comfortable and happy accepting the verdict/the woman having a seizure/her 'getting away with it?' Must be a reason for this. Why is there so much suspicion about her?

I can't put my finger on it, but something isn't sitting right with me about it all.

ThePerkyDuck · 07/07/2024 00:13

lemmein · 07/07/2024 00:00

Not necessarily - They would have if she was someone from the local Council Estate, but a more ''middle class'' person can get away with more. Police can be biased.

I think some of you should be tested for recreational substances!

Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes really, really terrible things happen and no-one is to blame.

Are you ok? You don’t have to insult people for expressing their opinion. Nobody insulted you for your opinion. Parents and witnesses at school expressed their doubts so naturally people will be worried.

RaspberryIce · 07/07/2024 00:15

HungryLittleCrocodile · 07/07/2024 00:02

Why do you think some people are not comfortable and happy accepting the verdict/the woman having a seizure/her 'getting away with it?' Must be a reason for this. Why is there so much suspicion about her?

I can't put my finger on it, but something isn't sitting right with me about it all.

Lock her up and throw away the key then if you can't put my finger on it, but something isn't sitting right with you about it all.

oakleaffy · 07/07/2024 00:16

triangleatthetop · 06/07/2024 16:57

It could happen to any of us. Of course I feel sorry for her, any decent person would. The only people who don't are conspiracy nutters and revenge driven simpletons who think if a bad thing happens someone must pay for it.

Like the Head teacher of the School where these killings happened?

The Head also wasn't happy with how it was handled.

Can only be a good thing that the case is looked into again.

TattiePants · 07/07/2024 00:19

HungryLittleCrocodile · 07/07/2024 00:02

Why do you think some people are not comfortable and happy accepting the verdict/the woman having a seizure/her 'getting away with it?' Must be a reason for this. Why is there so much suspicion about her?

I can't put my finger on it, but something isn't sitting right with me about it all.

The public know a tiny fraction of the evidence in this investigation so ‘something not sitting right’ is irrelevant.

It doesn’t help that numerous posters are just making up their own ‘facts’ based on their own predjudices and I’m sure that’s also the case in real life. So far we’ve had she doesn’t care because she hasn’t said sorry, is swanning around Wimbledon instead of locking herself up at home, is selling 4x4 cars and has given an interview to an interior design magazine. Her wealthy ‘lawyer’ husband has either scared off the police or bought off the medical profession, police & CPS. Oh and despite her wealth and apparent access to the best doctors money can buy, she’s had previous seizures and ignored them. I’m sure there’s more that I’ve missed.

ahagiraffe · 07/07/2024 00:26

I strongly suspect there's more to this than what is in the public domain, and that the teachers can't say too much at this stage for legal reasons. I knew someone who was killed in an accident. The business owner caused the death but even though there was a witness, the investigation concluded there wasn't enough evidence. Clueless idiots flooded social media with post after post feeling sorry for the business owner (who talked about how distressing it had been to be under investigation) when if they'd heard that witnesses account, they'd have had quite a different view. Money and power enable people to escape consequences every day.

CharlotteBog · 07/07/2024 00:30

I can understand them wanting justice

The bereaved parents do have justice. The driver of the car has been investigated and found not to have been at fault.

DeeCeeCherry · 07/07/2024 01:05

Ghoulish to want a thread full of sympathy for the driver. It's a horrible situation all round for all involved. Bereavement and trauma. It's not all about you centering yourself.

lemmein · 07/07/2024 01:09

Are you ok? You don’t have to insult people for expressing their opinion. Nobody insulted you for your opinion. Parents and witnesses at school expressed their doubts so naturally people will be worried.

@ThePerkyDuck this isn't a story on Eastenders you're all speculating about. Making completely unfounded allegations of recreational drug use about a driver who suffered a medical episode which resulted in the death of 2 small children is low, even for MN!

lemmein · 07/07/2024 01:16

oakleaffy · 07/07/2024 00:20

How jolly convenient that the driver ''has no memory at all'' of the deaths.
She's ''sorry''.
So that's alright then.

Both past and current head teachers aren't happy with how the case was handled.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/04/met-police-review-investigation-car-crash-wimbledon-school#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20force%2C%20the,on%206%20July%20last%20year.

You don't have any recollection of events that occur during a seizure because you're unconscious! 🙄

ThePerkyDuck · 07/07/2024 01:25

lemmein · 07/07/2024 01:09

Are you ok? You don’t have to insult people for expressing their opinion. Nobody insulted you for your opinion. Parents and witnesses at school expressed their doubts so naturally people will be worried.

@ThePerkyDuck this isn't a story on Eastenders you're all speculating about. Making completely unfounded allegations of recreational drug use about a driver who suffered a medical episode which resulted in the death of 2 small children is low, even for MN!

Alas you are speculating here as well. I am not sure why you are comparing this horrible case with Eastenders? That’s quite tasteless.

Also one person mentioned about the drug use. You insulted everyone here.

maudelovesharold · 07/07/2024 01:31

Why are people so determined to see this as anything but a tragic accident? I don't understand.

Nobody’s determined to see this as anything other than what it is. The families are not happy with the way the case has been dealt with and, as a result of their very public disquiet, it’s now being re-examined. Good. I hope the families get the answers they need.

lemmein · 07/07/2024 01:39

Alas you are speculating here as well. I am not sure why you are comparing this horrible case with Eastenders? That’s quite tasteless.

@ThePerkyDuck yep, I'm the one being 'tasteless'.....classic!

Anyway, I'll bow out and leave you all to pick over the bones of old blog posts and discuss whether the woman has had the audacity to smile in the last 12 months 🙄

Bluebirdover · 07/07/2024 01:43

This thread is in extremely bad taste.

Far too ghoulish.

Marinade · 07/07/2024 01:48

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Such a heartless, inhumane and disgusting comment. Shame on you to reducing those parents' grief in the way you chose to.

Mamtorr · 07/07/2024 01:59

Ihopeithinkiknow · 06/07/2024 17:42

My son died aged 22 in 2022 after being hit by a car it was a complete accident and it is a really terrible thing to go through and my heart hurts for the person that has to live with this forever and my heart hurts for me because I lost my beautiful son, there are no winners but I do feel for the family in what I know is an awful thing to have to come to terms with

I'm so sorry for your loss

TealPoet · 07/07/2024 02:04

Haven’t read the full thread but I agree. The parents are naturally distraught and want to feel someone is being held accountable but she’s not to blame for a sudden medical episode. I don’t know what evidence they have used for that, but if they are satisfied we should accept that.

CockSpadget · 07/07/2024 02:07

Sirine1708 · 06/07/2024 17:11

I think it's a very convenient diagnosis - human brain is so complex, they can't prove she didn't have a seizure. Never heard of a person diagnosed with epilepsy at 40 though - I believe if you have it, it starts at the childhood.

This driver lives in a detached house in Wimbledon (worth millions in that area) and her car was not the cheapest one so apparently she could afford good lawyer and suitable diagnosis.

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Along with others who have put you straight, my mum developed epilepsy in her late 40s, no prior history of seizures at all.
Epilepsy is a fucking horrible condition to live with, for the affected person, and also their loved ones.
It’s absolutely tragic that those beautiful girls lost their lives, however persecuting the driver for something beyond her control won’t bring them back. I’m sure she will be persecuting herself for the rest of her life.

Whataretalkingabout · 07/07/2024 03:10

I have not RTFT either, but one thing has shocked me since originally hearing about this accident . If the schoolyard had had a solid wall around the playground or had been located in an entirely different location, this accident would never have happened. Why has noone noticed this??
Why put a school in an accident prone spot? What is stopping this kind of accident from being repeated if there isn't a more solid protection for the children?

Firefly1987 · 07/07/2024 03:25

They found that Shoreham airshow pilot not guilty which I don't agree with, but he had form for performing dangerous manoeuvres. Heard he's trying to get his pilot licence back as well 😡I can understand people being angry thinking someone is getting away with a crime if you can't prove it one way or the other. It's the perfect defence isn't it? But really all signs point to this being a tragic accident.

Allie47 · 07/07/2024 03:37

What does the headteacher want the woman charged for? What law do they think she broke?

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