To actually feel sorry for the woman driving the car in the Wimbledon car accident

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I’m sure I’ll be flamed here . I totally sympathise with the bereaved parents- I can’t stress that enough. I can understand them wanting justice . As we know the driver of the car suffered an epileptic seizure at the wheel - she had no history of epilepsy. I don’t see what she could have done differently. She has to live with what she did although it wasn’t her fault. AIBU to feel quite sorry for her ?

It has been examined by the CPS, whose job it is to examine evidence such as this to determine whether a crime has been committed that can be prosecuted in a court of law.

And the school and the families are saying loud and clear that they don't have confidence in the police investigation or the CPS decision.

They are entitled to do so.

Of course they are, they are entitled to say whatever they want, to whomever they want.
They are, however, not entitled to demand anyone’s private medical information, or to have a bespoke criminal justice process created for this specific case. The CPS have reviewed the evidence and decided that no crime has been committed. They make this sort of decision every single day.

@GoFigure235 yours has got to be one of the most ridiculous comments. The woman is not using her medical information to avoid a prosecution that wording is extremely misleading. It's the police/CPS who've made the decision it's not in the public interest to prosecute. It's completely different

Ridiculous and absolutely untrue. My BIL had a seizure when he was 51. Came from nowhere, no history. Initially diagnosed as not epilepsy but no other known or obvious cause. He stopped driving whilst this was under investigation and just as he was told it wasn't epilepsy he had a very serious fit and ended up in hospital for a number of days, both for tests and because of the damage he did to himself. He was put on epilepsy medication and not able to drive for 12 months. He hasn't had a fit since but whilst he could drive now he very rarely does.

Might also help to know that the interior designer posted photos in their online portfolio in April-May 2023 (it's viewable in the source code).

People are entitled publicly to disagree with the CPS decision on the basis that the medical evidence hasn't been examined in court.

I would argue about the ridiculous comment. Police don’t decide to prosecute unless it’s a petty crime like shoplifting. Police only gather evidence. CPS only decides and I understand that they can give the medical evidence to the parents with the drivers consent.

You are really showing your ignorance here regarding seizures.

I think you will also find that her living in a detached house in Wimbledon has no relevance whatsoever. I should imagine that the poor parents of the sadly deceased also live in a detached house in Wimbledon as well. It is wholly inappropriate to discuss what property any of those involved live in. Shame on you.

My sister developed epilepsy (and lost her driving licence) at 35. No preceding signs / history.

To create a mechanism to examine the evidence in court, despite the CPS deciding that no crime has been committed, would mean dismantling our entire criminal justice system as it currently exists and creating an entirely new process.

I get this.

But the school/families are entitled to be very publicly pissed off about this given that their experiences with the CPS/police have obviously led them to have very little faith in the investigation. They might presumably have accepted that quietly had a prosecution proceeded, but now there is no prosecution they're presumably refusing to take it lying down and are going to kick up as much fuss as they can. Which is their right.

I was confused by your opening line 'I’m sure I’ll be flamed here' OP as I couldn't imagine anybody not feeling sympathy for someone who caused such an horrific tragedy because of a medical event. Though you haven't been flamed, it seems your apprehension wasn't misplaced - I had no idea this tragedy was so 'polarising' as a pp put it.

I feel even more sorry for the driver reading some of these posts and I think it's really shit of the school to imply there's more to it and cause further speculation about a woman who is probably going through hell too. There's nothing to suggest this was intentional, or a result of negligent/dangerous driving - I don't care how fancy your house is, or how big your car is, waking up to carnage and knowing you've caused the death of 2 small children is an unimaginable burden. You are not being unreasonable at all feeling sorry for her.

What? So your logic is they would have been quiet if a nonsense prosecution had proceeded? But the fact there is no case for a prosecution means they'll just shout about it?

They're clearly unhappy with the process that led to the CPS decision and they're entitled to make that as public as they like.

And it's obviously having an impact, given the investigation is now being reviewed.

It's usually nervous drivers who are drawn to them because they feel ''Safe''- but heaven help the people they hit.

They have no need for them in suburbia.

I hope they test her for ''recreational substances'', too. They can bring on seizures.

https://www.nationalepilepsytraining.co.uk/can-taking-cocaine-cause-seizures/

I hope they test her for ''recreational substances'', too. They can bring on seizures.

You don't think they've done that already? 🙃

And yet you have to disclose all sort of medical information to random insurance companies, so not so much of a defining principle after all.

We get it @ItsAlrightDarling you think the parents should accept the unfailable police's conclusions and that they are not to see any evidence for it. They should stop asking questions and move along. Nothing to see here.

Did you actually even read my post properly? My point is that people will do - and say - ANYthing to try to avoid a jail term. A previous poster said that some people are self serving, and will lie to protect themselves rather than face justice, (when some people had suggested that this woman may have lied to get herself off this charge of death by dangerous driving.)

And I said 'of course they will. MOST people will try anything to get out of a jail term. Then I mentioned this woman who lied and laid on depression etc to avoid a prison sentence. So the massive difference between the 2 things happening is irrelevant, as that's not what I was on about.

She could have had a seizure at home and just never reported it. Everyone is going by her word that she has never had a seizure.

Hopefully the evidences will be shared with the families and others have been impacted.

Don’t be ridiculous

She doesn't have to live with it. She claims she doesn't remember. How can you feel sad or guilt of you don't think or remember doing anything awful? For those claiming we should just accept what the police cps say well all I can think is you just not ever have had to deal with the pencil pushers and corrupt ones! Must have had your eyes shut for the last 10 years too! The amount of corruption/ double standards and immoral brush under the carpet or drag it out till the fervour dies down that happens in the UK is a joke. Be grateful if you've not had to deal with it.

And she might be telling the truth?

Why are people so determined to see this as anything but a tragic accident? I don't understand.