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AIBU for thinking my friend should take more responsibility (inc financially) for plans he cancelled?

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cinders92 · 05/07/2024 19:55

A long and nuanced one, but if you’ve got some time to spare here goes…

My friend and I have had a trip booked for a concert since the start of the year. It’s a once-in-a lifetime thing for me, for a group that will likely soon stop touring (due to age/illness) and who are my absolute heroes. We have been saving for it ever since we bought the tickets, as we knew we need to travel and stay over (train and hotel).

We had both continuously referenced our plans multiple times since the time it was booked and said how excited we were. About 4 weeks back I messaged him and said we probably needed to get our hotel and train booked as we may run out of options otherwise. I also said that if the times worked well, we could possibly come back the same day via train to save money, but said it would depend on when the event finished (which we didn’t yet know as times hadn’t been published). He agreed.

About 3 weeks before, after finding out the times definitely wouldn’t work for a same-day return, I confirmed with him that we would definitely need to stay over and that we should book our train and hotel very soon before they get booked up. Again, he agreed, and said he would look at hotels and come back to me with suggestions.

He didn’t come back and so about 2 weeks out from the event I sent a link to one of the most reasonably priced hotels in the area to ask him what he thought and whether he was happy for me to book that one.

It’s at this point he lets me know that he can no longer go as he can’t afford it. He tells me he had “completely forgotten” and once he did remember he thought we would be returning the same day because I had mentioned it that one time. I told him I thought I had made it clear that that was a big “if”, as it was dependent on event times, but offered to cover the cost of the hotel for now, as I assumed he had the rest saved seeing as the issue was (supposedly) me mentioning the same-day return.

He then said that, actually, he might be able to lend money off someone else and he would come back to me.

A day later (at this point we’re at under two weeks out from the event) he lets me know he definitely won’t be able to go and apologises for letting me down, but says it’s simply not feasible for him financially and that he “can’t help that”.

At this point I tell him I’m confused as I had already offered to cover the hotel and asked “Surely you have the rest saved”… (£100-£150) …”as we have had this booked since the start of the year and you haven’t mentioned any issues up until this past week, which you said was just due to hotel?”

He tells me he didn’t have any money put to one side for it at all as his financial situation had changed (moved to a more expensive home) very shortly after he had booked the ticket and he didn’t realise he wouldn’t be able to go after reviewing his finances for the past few months just now (after 3+ months in said-new home.)

While I totally understand affordability I’m confused and incredibly annoyed as to why he would leave it this late to tell me. I am also all the more annoyed as I know he has been going for nice meals with his new partner and also bought them quite an extravagant gift (£400+) very recently - not for any occasion, mind, just as a random present.

This close to the event I am now struggling to find anyone who wants to buy our tickets, which we each spent about £100 on, as people know they’ll incur travel and accommodation costs. Meanwhile, my friend hasn’t taken any sort of pro-active action to help me recover any money by selling them on - it has been me sorting this.

They have suggested that once I do secure someone who will buy them (if I do, it will be for much cheaper), that I should let them know so that we can split it.

AIBU for being SO angry about:

a) the lack of notice RE finances, despite them seemingly having had money for other things these past few months
b) the lack of effort/responsibility to help me recoup, and
c) their desire to want to split the money? If it were me who had cancelled the plans, I would give my friend their full ticket amount and take anything left for myself…. but maybe I’m naive or BU… Mostly, I’m a bit sad and disappointed.

AIBU and how would you handle this?

OP posts:
sandyhappypeople · 05/07/2024 22:39

I'd be telling him to recoup his own costs.

You either go (you should definitely go!), don't go or sell your ticket but do that entirely separately from his ticket, I'm really not sure why you would have offered to try and sell his ticket on his behalf after he's been such a git!

Make it work OP, you'll regret it is you don't.

RenoDakota · 05/07/2024 22:40

You are not unreasonable to feel annoyed and hurt, OP. But I echo others here in saying go on your own. I go to a lot of gigs but at the grand old age of 61 I am going to my first one on my own in August. It is a band I love and would walk over hot coals to see. The only other person I know who would want to see them is on holiday then.

I had similar worries about safety (it is in Manchester and I wouldn't have minded getting the last train home but did not want to do the walk on my own, very late, at my end). So I booked a cheap Travelodge in central Manchester. I am soo looking forward to it and what was a worry is now an exciting adventure!

You can do it, and would probably regret it if you didn't. Hope it all works out well for you, whatever you decide to do.
And do consider Travelodge. I know London would be more expensive than Manchester but I got a double room for £45 (with cancellation option included).

Good luck!

NameChanged9 · 05/07/2024 22:40

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:51

It is late on in evening - I think maybe 11 I would be out of it. I don’t know much of London as I’ve only been the once so I’m happy to take advice.

@cinders92 I really hope you manage to sort something out! Sounds like your ‘friend’ has been very unreasonable - especially at cancelling at such short notice. I hope you manage to go, as I think if you miss it, it could be one of those opportunities in years to come you look back on and regret not having.

Proteinpud · 05/07/2024 22:42

OP you've had lots of good advice already, just to add if it's a bucket list type of gig, it's worth seeing if there's a Facebook or similar fan page for whoever it is - I've travelled all around the country on my own for gigs, and for many I've linked up with other fans, who have been welcoming of anyone who shares the obsession!

Agree if you're going to London, Airbnb or dorms are always far cheaper than hotels, the Airbnb rooms I've taken have typically been single mums earning some extra money so I've never felt worried about it as a lone female. Check if you're on a train line that has 'superfares' in case there's any left on your travel dates!

Your friend is a dick and definitely shouldn't be expecting the money back, please tell him that's not happening given he's messed you around!

(Oh and for future info - many airbnbs can be booked with low deposits, and hotels can often be booked with free cancellation up until the day before, so you can reserve accommodation in advance and still save up to pay)

LazyGewl · 05/07/2024 22:55

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 05/07/2024 20:01

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the reason he isn’t going is not because of money but because of the new partner.

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Gcsunnyside23 · 05/07/2024 22:57

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:35

They booked it as we were unable to at the time, but they were around. They’re great and were super nice, but not really related to the tale much. The friend who was supposed to be coming has left it all down to me to try and sell the tickets at the umpteenth hour and has said that whatever I can get for them, we can split - I’m asking if IBU for being annoyed at that fact.

I'd tell them you're still going and if they want to sell their ticket they can. But no way would I be helping them after they ruined my plans

Gymnopedie · 05/07/2024 23:07

Your OP and later posts suggest that he HAS paid for his ticket. So it's his ticket. Therefore you give him his ticket and tell him that if he wants any money for it it's his responsibility to sell it. It's not your problem to solve, and certainly not by giving him his money 'back'.

hurlyburlygirly · 05/07/2024 23:11

I'm guessing Springsteen. If so, go. It's brilliant and very friendly. And every tour is rumoured to be the last so I'd go.

SapphireSeptember · 05/07/2024 23:15

I've been going to gigs on my own for years. It's easy enough. One was right after the Manchester arena bombing and people kept asking me if I was scared of going. I was not, I said that the safest time to be in London is right after a terrorist attack! And then the Grenfell tower disaster happened on the day I went into London and the Tube was closed and I got lost. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Managed to get to my hotel eventually.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 05/07/2024 23:20

I’d give your friend his ticket as he has paid for it and let him be responsible for selling it on. Definitely go to the concert on your own-if it’s Springsteen, we went at Cardiff and the vibe was really friendly. Go by yourself and kick that bucket!

pizzaHeart · 05/07/2024 23:20

I think you are not being unreasonable to be angry that he left it too close to the event but you are unreasonable to expect something from selling his ticket to go towards your hotel costs.
At this situation I would have a look if I could go on my own or (if it’s absolutely not possible) if I could sell MY ticket. It might be easier to sell 2 tickets together by the way so it’s worth asking.
Morally if you are not going on your ticket - it’s on you. I wouldn’t expect something for you from selling his tickets to cover your hotel costs. If the hotel was booked already for 2 of you - it would be different.

I would never commit to anything with this person again. I wouldn’t cross him out as a friend just won’t share commitments.

Geiyotue · 05/07/2024 23:31

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:39

I can’t sell their ticket and take the money. They have said they want their share back (or what we can get for them now anyway) and it’s been me trying to sort all of that.

And how is he going to make you do that? You just don't give it to him! What's he going to do?

HighOnMaiden · 05/07/2024 23:52

Are you on any of the fan groups OP? I’ve made some great friends over the years meeting other fans for pre gig drinks etc.

We tend to book rooms in the same place and stay together now and there are always one or two on their own.

Codlingmoths · 06/07/2024 00:15

It’s London. 11pm is early!! 19yos will be out on every street. I would book a hostel and go. And I would keep every penny if I managed to sell his ticket, why the fuck would you owe him money? Say ‘I had to book a hotel on my own when I’d saved for a twin share. I know you could have saved for it too, you chose to let me down so late in the piece it might have fucked my going at all, and I don’t owe you a penny. Be less selfish and thoughtless with your other friends.’

Codlingmoths · 06/07/2024 00:15

Or just tell him it’s up to him to sell his ticket, you’re the friend he’s last minute dumped not his secretary.

DontThinkJustDo · 06/07/2024 00:19

If you are on FB join Solo Armada - lots of people on there that go to gigs alone and meet up beforehand. Don't miss out because of your flaky friend. You may even find someone to buy the other ticket.

TooFatToFadeAway · 06/07/2024 00:23

My daughter is 25 and regularly goes to gigs on her own. She’s made loads of friends by doing this but still prefers to go alone as she finds people can be flaky, and doesn’t want her plans ruined by other people

She stays in air bnbs usually in women’s houses where they only take women guests. She’s never had any problems

you have to go. If you don’t you’ll always regret it.

EC22 · 06/07/2024 00:28

Really shitty if your friend to let you down.
Id make no effort to sell his ticket, are they seated? Even if I wasn’t going I’d tell him I was, see how he gets on selling a single ticket.

The fact he hasn’t grovelled apologising shows he is a knob.

Edingril · 06/07/2024 00:30

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:01

I toyed with it as I’m desperate to go, but I’m a young female and not sure I would feel completely safe at a large event, in a strange city, staying on my own. I don’t think it would be the wisest sadly.

Huh, seriously? You need a chaperone, if this is true you have more issues then this evebt

Just go on your own

TiredCatLady · 06/07/2024 00:37

I’m wondering if you’re going to the same gig I’m about to get a last minute ticket for…

BananaLambo · 06/07/2024 01:54

Totally go - loads of people go to gigs on their own. If they’re a ‘big’ band there may even be special coaches going to and from your town directly there and back, so Google ‘band name’ + coach and see what comes up.

GiveOverAndOver · 06/07/2024 06:47

Sell the ticket on Twickets, and use their ticket money to cover the hotel. The friendship is probably lost anyway now after they flakey way they've acted, I'd be fuming.

KTheGrey · 06/07/2024 07:12

I agree with PPs - go anyway. Also, if he sells his ticket, he keeps the money, but since you are doing the selling, he can get his split back when you can afford it. So if you get £60 for it, use that for the air bnb and you owe him £30, maybe pay it back at a fiver a month. See it as a finance deal for your trip.

Your mum is right and he does sound flaky and unreliable.

PardonSmardon · 06/07/2024 07:18

He is a very flaky friend. He has essentially messed you around and then dropped you at last minute for his new partner, knowing fully that you’d likely feel unable to go. Of course he has to forfeit the cost of the ticket so you don’t make a loss. He can’t be bothered to help you find a buyer and he is the reason you’re in this situation.

personally id still go. Somehow I’d find the money to cover the hotel room myself, somehow look at cutting back or earning £10 a week till finances are square.

Greydays10 · 06/07/2024 07:20

You have every reason to be extremely pissed off.
Awful thing to do.
I would distance myself from them.
I hate flakes selfish people, I cannot be arsed.
I really hope you go and accept the kind offers of help from posters.