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AIBU for thinking my friend should take more responsibility (inc financially) for plans he cancelled?

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cinders92 · 05/07/2024 19:55

A long and nuanced one, but if you’ve got some time to spare here goes…

My friend and I have had a trip booked for a concert since the start of the year. It’s a once-in-a lifetime thing for me, for a group that will likely soon stop touring (due to age/illness) and who are my absolute heroes. We have been saving for it ever since we bought the tickets, as we knew we need to travel and stay over (train and hotel).

We had both continuously referenced our plans multiple times since the time it was booked and said how excited we were. About 4 weeks back I messaged him and said we probably needed to get our hotel and train booked as we may run out of options otherwise. I also said that if the times worked well, we could possibly come back the same day via train to save money, but said it would depend on when the event finished (which we didn’t yet know as times hadn’t been published). He agreed.

About 3 weeks before, after finding out the times definitely wouldn’t work for a same-day return, I confirmed with him that we would definitely need to stay over and that we should book our train and hotel very soon before they get booked up. Again, he agreed, and said he would look at hotels and come back to me with suggestions.

He didn’t come back and so about 2 weeks out from the event I sent a link to one of the most reasonably priced hotels in the area to ask him what he thought and whether he was happy for me to book that one.

It’s at this point he lets me know that he can no longer go as he can’t afford it. He tells me he had “completely forgotten” and once he did remember he thought we would be returning the same day because I had mentioned it that one time. I told him I thought I had made it clear that that was a big “if”, as it was dependent on event times, but offered to cover the cost of the hotel for now, as I assumed he had the rest saved seeing as the issue was (supposedly) me mentioning the same-day return.

He then said that, actually, he might be able to lend money off someone else and he would come back to me.

A day later (at this point we’re at under two weeks out from the event) he lets me know he definitely won’t be able to go and apologises for letting me down, but says it’s simply not feasible for him financially and that he “can’t help that”.

At this point I tell him I’m confused as I had already offered to cover the hotel and asked “Surely you have the rest saved”… (£100-£150) …”as we have had this booked since the start of the year and you haven’t mentioned any issues up until this past week, which you said was just due to hotel?”

He tells me he didn’t have any money put to one side for it at all as his financial situation had changed (moved to a more expensive home) very shortly after he had booked the ticket and he didn’t realise he wouldn’t be able to go after reviewing his finances for the past few months just now (after 3+ months in said-new home.)

While I totally understand affordability I’m confused and incredibly annoyed as to why he would leave it this late to tell me. I am also all the more annoyed as I know he has been going for nice meals with his new partner and also bought them quite an extravagant gift (£400+) very recently - not for any occasion, mind, just as a random present.

This close to the event I am now struggling to find anyone who wants to buy our tickets, which we each spent about £100 on, as people know they’ll incur travel and accommodation costs. Meanwhile, my friend hasn’t taken any sort of pro-active action to help me recover any money by selling them on - it has been me sorting this.

They have suggested that once I do secure someone who will buy them (if I do, it will be for much cheaper), that I should let them know so that we can split it.

AIBU for being SO angry about:

a) the lack of notice RE finances, despite them seemingly having had money for other things these past few months
b) the lack of effort/responsibility to help me recoup, and
c) their desire to want to split the money? If it were me who had cancelled the plans, I would give my friend their full ticket amount and take anything left for myself…. but maybe I’m naive or BU… Mostly, I’m a bit sad and disappointed.

AIBU and how would you handle this?

OP posts:
Longtimelurkerfinallyposts · 05/07/2024 21:34

It's a shame that you didn't tell us at first that it was London - as loads of people on here could have made suggestions of cheap accommodation. If I still lived in London, I'd have offered you a sofa in our house for free!

As well as youth hostels and the other recommendations already made on this thread, you could check out university halls. Most of them rent out rooms while the students are off in the summer, and some of them might suit you.

If you could share more info - where is the gig? which band is it? - you'll get more helpful suggestions. And there may well be someone on here who loves the band as much as you and would happily buy a spare ticket...

I don't think you should put much effort into finding a buyer for your flaky friend's ticket. He's already paid for it? Or does he still owe your mutual friend the money for it? As long as you haven't paid for it out of your pocket, you could just leave it to the two of them to sort out.

Gymmum82 · 05/07/2024 21:36

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:39

I can’t sell their ticket and take the money. They have said they want their share back (or what we can get for them now anyway) and it’s been me trying to sort all of that.

Course you can. He’s shafted you so sell his ticket and don’t give him the money back. Screw him, tell him you’re keeping the money to pay for the hotel. You don’t owe him anything

Sorenlorrenson · 05/07/2024 21:37

Fleetwood Mac?

Northby · 05/07/2024 21:39

Definitely still go, OP! If you can’t afford the hotel just leave early for the last train. At least you’ll be able to enjoy most of the concert!

And yes, if my friend did this I would be absolutely livid and let them know it! It’s hugely flakey and disrespectful.

Waffle78 · 05/07/2024 21:39

Inthemosquitogarden · 05/07/2024 20:37

You’re not being unreasonable for being annoyed.

you are unreasonable for writing that he may be able to “lend” money off someone. If he’s receiving the money then he’d be “borrowing”. I’m not usually such a pedant but poor grammar is making this story with various parties much more confusing!

Always one if it's not the spelling police it's the grammar police. 🤔 Hope you're satisfied with the OP's explanation.🙄

rainbow126 · 05/07/2024 21:40

Can’t you go by yourself, sell his ticket at the door (and don’t bother telling him you did) and get a late night bus home? Bus services usually run all night and it will be full of concert goers so perfectly safe. You could even find a coach specifically organised for the concert on Facebook. It would save you the hotel money. But definitely go!

I had a friend do this on me before - we talked about going to a festival and planned it all out for about six months and the day before the tickets he came out he announced that he couldn’t afford it. Utterly bizarre!

Treesinmygarden · 05/07/2024 21:48

Your friend is a dick and isn't taking any responsibility here at all. Do not refund any money!! Why should you? If he wants money back he should be trying to sell his ticket not you!

My DDs went to Taylor Swift in Dublin and there were bus companies ferrying Swifties from NI down and back for about £40, I think. See if there is anything like that?

Go on your own or here's a rad suggestion lol (my DDs would happily do this!) but would your mum go with you? Concert goers are a friendly bunch!

A good friend let me down over a concert we had both bought tickets for but never made any suggestion about selling the ticket or getting her money back. I took my sister and we had a great night!

Do not miss this concert! You will always regret it if you do!

Dying to know who you are going to see now!

Bananazebra · 05/07/2024 21:54

Please go! You could always leave the concert a bit early to get the last train if none of the other options work out.
Leaving early is not ideal but it surely better than missing out entirely. Especially as this could be your last chance to see the band.
And yes you're justified in being angry at your friend.

Nanaof1 · 05/07/2024 21:57

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:12

Ah that’s amazing, thank you. ☺️ Yeah, I guess I’m more curious as to whether IBU for being so angry about it all. Whether I do decide to go or not, the fact remains that I feel a bit put out and disrespected by the whole thing, but unsure if I’m valid to feel that way or not.

I think the poll shows that you are not unreasonable to feel hurt, angry and frustrated by the flip-flopping of your friend.
But, you need to put that aside and not miss out on seeing the group you've wanted to see before it is too late.
Either go on your own or find a friend to go with you, even if it means you pay for the hotel. Your flakey friend, at the very least, should be willing to give the ticket to another friend of yours and just take that loss.
I am also going to take a guess and bet that his new partner is a bit controlling and has put the kibosh on his boyfriend going somewhere/spending money, without him.

HelterSkelter224 · 05/07/2024 21:59

Join the solo armada group on fb, you might find some people going that you can tag along with (solo gig goers who often meet to go together)

Nanaof1 · 05/07/2024 22:00

I also want to know who you are going to see. Inquiring minds want to know! 😊

Normallynumb · 05/07/2024 22:07

Your so called friend is thoughtless and selfish
Maybe he forgot about the accommodation costs, or maybe he lied
He didn't look into cheaper options, which most friends would
Please go to the gig. Once you get in no one will even notice you're alone and it will be a nice atmosphere
Off the top of my head here are my thoughts
Return overnight by mega bus Their buses are comfortable and cheap
Premier inn( there is a cheap option called City Z(?) with literally a bed and shower
Booking. Com take Klarna so you can spread payment
Sell your ticket at the door
Do not split the cost with your friend when he has let you down and you have done all the admin

Scirocco · 05/07/2024 22:07

For a concert in London, you're probably fine to go alone - I've done loads of solo trips around various bits of London and never had any issues, including as a teenager. Getting there is pretty straightforward, with lots of bus and train options (including sleeper trains and overnight bus options), and there are plenty of youth hostels. Don't let someone else's flakiness ruin your fun.

Nanaof1 · 05/07/2024 22:08

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:39

I can’t sell their ticket and take the money. They have said they want their share back (or what we can get for them now anyway) and it’s been me trying to sort all of that.

So, tell him you couldn't sell it, find a friend to go with you who will split the cost of the hotel with you. Or go alone, leave the concert in time to catch the last train. You also have had many, many wonderful bits of advice about hostels, dorm rent, etc. Please listen to them. Going alone, you will be perfectly safe, though I can see it would be more fun with a friend. Look into alternate overnight accommodations to see if something is cheaper.
Don't even try to sell flakey friend's ticket, just ignore their "asks". They can go take a long walk off a short pier for flaking out on you.

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/07/2024 22:09

Give him a deadline to find someone to cover his ticket. If he doesn’t find someone by x date, offer it to a friend for free.

Bollocks should you be the one taking on the admin of getting him his money back?!

I don’t think this is a very nice friend tbh.

Normallynumb · 05/07/2024 22:09

If you say which venue I'm sure posters can recommend places to stay
If I lived in London, you'd have been welcome to stay with me!

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/07/2024 22:10

Happy to give London tips too if you say where it will be :)

Newbiebutoldie · 05/07/2024 22:13

What gig is it and where? I have been to most of the bigger venues in London so can help with travel & poss accommodation

gardenisblooming · 05/07/2024 22:16

Which venue is it in London? I go to a lot of gigs and might be able to help out re travel/accommodation ideas, and you might even find that one of us on here is also going and we can meet up?!

sleepercellspy · 05/07/2024 22:16

I would tell him that he can try and sell the ticket if he's that desperate for the cash but it would be nice if he'd take the hit on the ticket money so you can offer it to someone.

He's being really selfish, I'd have immediately given you the ticket.

tuvamoodyson · 05/07/2024 22:25

TheUnknownsMum · 05/07/2024 21:15

What’s the suggestion here, that someone at the grand old age of 32 wouldn’t be at risk compared to a younger girl?

I assumed it meant more mature, not a 16 year old!

SeriaMau · 05/07/2024 22:27

I went to see Springsteen in Sunderland on my own. Had to stay overnight in Hartlepool. It was absolutely fine. One of my best experiences. Everyone was very friendly.

DoAClassicCamel · 05/07/2024 22:36

Have you not got one friend who can go?
Surely there’s someone.

loupiots · 05/07/2024 22:37

Definitely try to go! You're not unreasonable for being annoyed at your flakey friend, but don't let it ruin your bucket list experience.

Lots of Londoners on mumsnet who can help you out with accommodation ideas - you've already had some good ones. Female only dorms are an option if you're a little nervous.

Get a coach; cheaper than the train, just need to leave earlier. All the stadiums have excellent transport links, and the tube will run late enough for you get back to your accommodation.

You sound very sensible, you'll be fine. I went to my first gig aged 14 at Wembley - I pretended I was at a sleepover, my mum never found out!

CableCar · 05/07/2024 22:37

YABU - if it’s a "once-in-a lifetime thing" to see your "heroes" than why on earth are you considering not going? You haven't lost anything by your friend not going - except companionship! The gig tickets are already paid for, the money is gone. It's your mates responsibility to sell his ticket. Not your responsibility to sell it if he can't go.
I've been to see my favorite band alone twice and was totally fine... Once in Birmingham and once in Southampton. Just go by yourself and have a brilliant time!!