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AIBU for thinking my friend should take more responsibility (inc financially) for plans he cancelled?

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cinders92 · 05/07/2024 19:55

A long and nuanced one, but if you’ve got some time to spare here goes…

My friend and I have had a trip booked for a concert since the start of the year. It’s a once-in-a lifetime thing for me, for a group that will likely soon stop touring (due to age/illness) and who are my absolute heroes. We have been saving for it ever since we bought the tickets, as we knew we need to travel and stay over (train and hotel).

We had both continuously referenced our plans multiple times since the time it was booked and said how excited we were. About 4 weeks back I messaged him and said we probably needed to get our hotel and train booked as we may run out of options otherwise. I also said that if the times worked well, we could possibly come back the same day via train to save money, but said it would depend on when the event finished (which we didn’t yet know as times hadn’t been published). He agreed.

About 3 weeks before, after finding out the times definitely wouldn’t work for a same-day return, I confirmed with him that we would definitely need to stay over and that we should book our train and hotel very soon before they get booked up. Again, he agreed, and said he would look at hotels and come back to me with suggestions.

He didn’t come back and so about 2 weeks out from the event I sent a link to one of the most reasonably priced hotels in the area to ask him what he thought and whether he was happy for me to book that one.

It’s at this point he lets me know that he can no longer go as he can’t afford it. He tells me he had “completely forgotten” and once he did remember he thought we would be returning the same day because I had mentioned it that one time. I told him I thought I had made it clear that that was a big “if”, as it was dependent on event times, but offered to cover the cost of the hotel for now, as I assumed he had the rest saved seeing as the issue was (supposedly) me mentioning the same-day return.

He then said that, actually, he might be able to lend money off someone else and he would come back to me.

A day later (at this point we’re at under two weeks out from the event) he lets me know he definitely won’t be able to go and apologises for letting me down, but says it’s simply not feasible for him financially and that he “can’t help that”.

At this point I tell him I’m confused as I had already offered to cover the hotel and asked “Surely you have the rest saved”… (£100-£150) …”as we have had this booked since the start of the year and you haven’t mentioned any issues up until this past week, which you said was just due to hotel?”

He tells me he didn’t have any money put to one side for it at all as his financial situation had changed (moved to a more expensive home) very shortly after he had booked the ticket and he didn’t realise he wouldn’t be able to go after reviewing his finances for the past few months just now (after 3+ months in said-new home.)

While I totally understand affordability I’m confused and incredibly annoyed as to why he would leave it this late to tell me. I am also all the more annoyed as I know he has been going for nice meals with his new partner and also bought them quite an extravagant gift (£400+) very recently - not for any occasion, mind, just as a random present.

This close to the event I am now struggling to find anyone who wants to buy our tickets, which we each spent about £100 on, as people know they’ll incur travel and accommodation costs. Meanwhile, my friend hasn’t taken any sort of pro-active action to help me recover any money by selling them on - it has been me sorting this.

They have suggested that once I do secure someone who will buy them (if I do, it will be for much cheaper), that I should let them know so that we can split it.

AIBU for being SO angry about:

a) the lack of notice RE finances, despite them seemingly having had money for other things these past few months
b) the lack of effort/responsibility to help me recoup, and
c) their desire to want to split the money? If it were me who had cancelled the plans, I would give my friend their full ticket amount and take anything left for myself…. but maybe I’m naive or BU… Mostly, I’m a bit sad and disappointed.

AIBU and how would you handle this?

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Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:35

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:12

Ah that’s amazing, thank you. ☺️ Yeah, I guess I’m more curious as to whether IBU for being so angry about it all. Whether I do decide to go or not, the fact remains that I feel a bit put out and disrespected by the whole thing, but unsure if I’m valid to feel that way or not.

I can see how one might say yes to a ticket on a whim; not really think about the logistics then suddenly panic when a £100 ticket suddenly becomes another £100 hotel room and £100 train + dinner out etc etc etc It’s pretty thoughtless not to have considered it at the time and not fair to change his mind last minute but it does happen. I’d either say he has to give his ticket away free to someone you can convince to come with you (if he paid for it already) or try to re sell it if he hasn’t paid you back yet. But definitely do still go if it’s a dream band who you may never get to see again.

RomainingToBeSeen · 05/07/2024 20:35

Have you got both of the tickets?

If so I would try to sell on Flaky Friend's ticket and use whatever you get for it to cover hotel or travel. Or go on your own and find a way to cover hotel costs.

In a couple of years you won't remember what the ticket cost but you will remember what an amazing concert it was.

Inthemosquitogarden · 05/07/2024 20:37

You’re not being unreasonable for being annoyed.

you are unreasonable for writing that he may be able to “lend” money off someone. If he’s receiving the money then he’d be “borrowing”. I’m not usually such a pedant but poor grammar is making this story with various parties much more confusing!

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:39

Gymmum82 · 05/07/2024 20:32

Stop being so wet. You’ve already said this is a bucket list gig for you. Sell the flakes ticket and put it towards the hotel. Youd offered to cover his half so you have got the money.
I flew to and backpacked round South America on my own aged 20. You can get the train to a gig in the U.K. by yourself and stay over. Put your big girl knickers on and get it booked

I can’t sell their ticket and take the money. They have said they want their share back (or what we can get for them now anyway) and it’s been me trying to sort all of that.

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Toddlerteaplease · 05/07/2024 20:40

Just go on your own. You'll regret it if you don't.

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:40

Inthemosquitogarden · 05/07/2024 20:37

You’re not being unreasonable for being annoyed.

you are unreasonable for writing that he may be able to “lend” money off someone. If he’s receiving the money then he’d be “borrowing”. I’m not usually such a pedant but poor grammar is making this story with various parties much more confusing!

I’m sorry. English isn’t my mother tongue, but I can definitely understand how that might be a confusion.

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ZeroFucksGivenToday · 05/07/2024 20:42

I'd stop trying to sell his ticket. That's on him. And he's a dick for expecting it.

id get on Airbnb and search for a room in a shared house. Tons of women on there let their rooms out for half the price of a hotel. Then I'd look at busses instead of trains.
Don't let this slip by for you.

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:43

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 05/07/2024 20:42

I'd stop trying to sell his ticket. That's on him. And he's a dick for expecting it.

id get on Airbnb and search for a room in a shared house. Tons of women on there let their rooms out for half the price of a hotel. Then I'd look at busses instead of trains.
Don't let this slip by for you.

I will definitely try :)

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Ivehearditbothways · 05/07/2024 20:43

Where is the concert that a hotel for one night is going to cost £300 (if you’re saying how half would have been an extra £150 that you didn’t expect to have to cover).

Inthemosquitogarden · 05/07/2024 20:43

@cinders92 my apologies. You certainly speak English far better than the second language I can say a few phrases in!

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2024 20:44

Go on HostelWorld, pick a dorm, get a coach. Big gigs are great because everyone kicks out at the same time so it isn't deserted.

Happynow · 05/07/2024 20:44

Really shitty behaviour from your friend. I would be upset too. But do try to go somehow, a cheaper place to stay maybe. You'll be just fine x

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:45

Ivehearditbothways · 05/07/2024 20:43

Where is the concert that a hotel for one night is going to cost £300 (if you’re saying how half would have been an extra £150 that you didn’t expect to have to cover).

It’s London, but someone here has kindly suggested that Air BNB might be a good option to try. I have been looking at the booking.com website right now.

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Humtum · 05/07/2024 20:45

I would be really frustrated and disappointed in them. I don't really expect other people, especially my friends to do all the logistics. So I would expect they bring to the table some of the options i.e. which hotel / travel etc.

Can you still go on your own and enjoy / bring a different friend that might be able to afford?

Life definitely can get in the way with a big house move etc, but I'd be wary of committing to an event with this person in the future. They sound flaky and you seem to have provided them ample choices.

YellowAsteroid · 05/07/2024 20:46

but I’m a young female and not sure I would feel completely safe at a large event, in a strange city, staying on my own. I don’t think it would be the wisest sadly.

You'll be fine! It's just another place - how do you get around on your own normally?

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:46

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2024 20:44

Go on HostelWorld, pick a dorm, get a coach. Big gigs are great because everyone kicks out at the same time so it isn't deserted.

I had not heard of that one - thank you!

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BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:46

First of all, don’t worry about flaky friend’s wasted ticket. That’s not your responsibility to sell.

Secondly, are there no cheaper options for staying overnight? Any hostels or bnbs?

If you do decide to go, make it clear to flaky friend and mutual friend that you are going and they must not sell your ticket.

If you decide not to go, prioritise selling your own ticket. Only sell the second ticket if the buyer wants both.

LIZS · 05/07/2024 20:46

There are Travelodges and Premier Inns etc in London too

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:47

Humtum · 05/07/2024 20:45

I would be really frustrated and disappointed in them. I don't really expect other people, especially my friends to do all the logistics. So I would expect they bring to the table some of the options i.e. which hotel / travel etc.

Can you still go on your own and enjoy / bring a different friend that might be able to afford?

Life definitely can get in the way with a big house move etc, but I'd be wary of committing to an event with this person in the future. They sound flaky and you seem to have provided them ample choices.

That last part is what my Mum said actually. And yeah, I think I would have tried to solve more if I had been the one cancelling, personally, but maybe I’m wrong to think that way.

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Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:48

I wouldn’t do a dorm; I think actually I would feel a bit more nervous staying somewhere like that as a single female. Just stay at a cheap hotel or Airbnb. Look at places easy to get to via tube that may be a zone further out and therefore cheaper etc.

he can sell his own ticket.

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 05/07/2024 20:48

London has loads of options. And feels really safe at concert kick out (or generally any time to be fair). I've taken my then younger daughter all over with me there and never had any issues.

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:49

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:45

It’s London, but someone here has kindly suggested that Air BNB might be a good option to try. I have been looking at the booking.com website right now.

What time does the gig end? We can check tube timings.

You may be able to get a tube to a hotel in a cheaper (but safe) area.

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:50

Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:48

I wouldn’t do a dorm; I think actually I would feel a bit more nervous staying somewhere like that as a single female. Just stay at a cheap hotel or Airbnb. Look at places easy to get to via tube that may be a zone further out and therefore cheaper etc.

he can sell his own ticket.

Edited

Even in a female dorm?

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2024 20:50

Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:48

I wouldn’t do a dorm; I think actually I would feel a bit more nervous staying somewhere like that as a single female. Just stay at a cheap hotel or Airbnb. Look at places easy to get to via tube that may be a zone further out and therefore cheaper etc.

he can sell his own ticket.

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I've never had issues in single sex dorms in backpackers'. Especially as she won't have luggage. Just sleep with your bag and bring a toothbrush and some knickers.

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:51

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:49

What time does the gig end? We can check tube timings.

You may be able to get a tube to a hotel in a cheaper (but safe) area.

It is late on in evening - I think maybe 11 I would be out of it. I don’t know much of London as I’ve only been the once so I’m happy to take advice.

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