1 in 4 voters still Tory

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After the last 14 years how have they still got so many voters for this election (which was lost long ago)? And that's despite loads of Tories going Reform as a protest. Labour only just over 1 in 3.

They'll be back again for sure. Really is a Tory country.

How do you square that as relevant given the recently departed PM was young and non white? Starmer’s cabinet is far whiter than Sunak’s.

Inexplicably my tory mp, who has proved himself time and again to be a complete cunt, managed to actually increase his majority.

No helping some people.

Isn’t it odd ? The MN poll had a big labour lead but this thread is weirdly full of pro Tory posters. I feel sad that despite 14 years of incompetence, Johnson and his despicable behaviour during lockdown, Brexshit, corruption and cronyism, people are still convinced the tories are better. Quite sad and a poor indicator for the future.

You don't know what labour are going to do. You might be sorely disappointed.

How come Wales is entirely Labour, Lib Dem and Plaid Cymru now ?

Really ? I have worked for the NHS for 25 years, this is not my experience.

Can’t be any more disappointed than I was with the last shower. Complete waste of time. Sadly they’ve sullied every other MP’s reputation because of their own dishonesty. I blame them entirely for the the cynicism the nation now largely feels for politicians. And this will probably enable morons like Farage to get his foot in power.

Agree. Life was so much better in the 1990s including the NHS. Politics is infinitely more polarised. Posters cannot even hope that KS and his team will succeed because they support a different ‘team’. On a different thread one actually hoped they’d fail.

I agree.
I was shocked during the Brexit years how many voters didn't even know what the United Kingdom was nevermind what the EU was.

I live in West Essex. The majority here are proudly Tory (unlike where I grew up, where you’d keep that quiet). Reflected in the votes; bar Harlow, Essex pretty much remained Tory blue (as well as a few Reform). There’s some frustration with the tories, but mostly that they’ve been too left and reticent.

Fundamentally, most people here seem to believe that if you work hard, you should enjoy the spoils of it. Many in Essex are self-made, or second gen of self made; seems to me like this it the natural Tory base now, rather than the traditional, inherited wealth in the SW, which appears to have mostly moved LD

Well I woild say the NHS really hit it's stride in the noughties.

It is to an extent.

I live in London and in previous elections some of the parties including the main ones decided to put in candidates who didn't live in the constituency. The result is they missed campaigning to those if us who live on the constituency boundary and come under a different council.

The main 3 UK parties when they field candidates who know the area realise on certain issues they need to co-ordinated with their neighbouring MP regardless of the party of that MP to get things done.

So @stackhead I understand you when you point out how candidates from a completely different part of the country can understand your community's particular issues.

Even if you don't want a Labour government it's still pretty wild that 1 in 4 voters are still signing up for 5 more years of utter chaos, incompetence and corruption with the Conservatives. They've wrecked the country.

I am old enough to remember government in the 70s.

I still wouldn't vote Conservative.

Possibly covid had a hand in it etc.

Or have we been through a situation like covid before.

Let's see what Labour do shall we?

• an actual dentist was being interviewed this am on good morning itv re wes streeting "fixing" the NHS /dentist.

The dentist was very clear, it was the last Labour gov who brought in dentists contracts and it's that, they are still struggling to with.

He said change /stop the contracts.

Unfortunately there are many legacies from the last Labour gov that we are going struggling with today.

This mad swinging doesn't help anyone.
It doesn't help our services either, I long for the day when education and the health system are lifted out of politics.
Everyone is spinning and peddling lies, we are better than you.
It's nonsensical and people are going around in circles.
The biggest hope and take away from keirs first speech was, "I am not a tribal politician, I am not into tribal politics".

Wild that people want to reference something that happened FIFTY YEARS AGO.

No, most of us DONT remember that, funnily enough!

May as well see how they do

My vote could switch it has before

What we should be looking at is why 40% of the population either didn’t care enough to vote, in which case they can’t complain, or felt themselves to be disenfranchised by parties who they felt didn’t speak for them or have anything they could relate to.

Well the Tories spent years blaming a global financial crash on the Labour Party.

You live by the sword...

Imagine if Liz Truss or Boris Johnson were Labour Prime Ministers. The Daily Mail and co would still be banging on about it in 100 years, let alone 50 like they still do with the bloody 70s, where in many ways we were better off than now.

Not everything has to be a 'thing'.

Welsh Labour has been responsible for NHS here in Wales for over 20 years. It's much worse than the English one.