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1 in 4 voters still Tory

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User135644 · 05/07/2024 15:06

After the last 14 years how have they still got so many voters for this election (which was lost long ago)? And that's despite loads of Tories going Reform as a protest. Labour only just over 1 in 3.

They'll be back again for sure. Really is a Tory country.

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Isitsixoclockalready · 05/07/2024 17:32

stackhead · 05/07/2024 15:38

I voted Tory, not for the party politics but because someone from Hounslow (labour candidate) or Southampton (Lib Dem candidate) doesn't have the first clue what's important for someone living in rural Lincolnshire. And the conservative MP both lives in the constituency and has done some good things in her tenure.

I voted for my local MP, not for the Prime Minister (y'know like the system is set up).

That said I'm very much a swing voter, but none of the parties were convincing enough for me to vote in a lad from London to represent a farming community that he probably had never heard of until he got a nomination.

Thing is that if it was all about the personal qualities of the MP then we'd have 600+ independent MPs.

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 17:50

Moier · 05/07/2024 17:22

Everyone who voted Labour.. Will be regetting it in a year's time. ..when the country is in a worse state than it is now.
We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

Not sure if you've heard of brexit?

Ryeman · 05/07/2024 17:56

I voted Tory and have all my life. If the election had been a year ago I probably would have wavered but I feel like things were finally settling down and getting back on track under Sunak and that a change of government would just upset the apple cart all over again.

Londonrach1 · 05/07/2024 17:59

Or maybe everyone old enough to have lived through both Tory and labour...both are not great! Sadly between the two I know which is better as I'm.old but we need a change so pleased with the result. Please op set up a party that looks after the people and care about the UK...the whole political system is awful!

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sarahc336 · 05/07/2024 18:01

It's the ones that have no idea that people are having to use food banks to feed their kids snd have never set foot inside an nhs a&e 🙄

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 18:01

A lot of people remember the Labour government and that wasn’t all roses either. (I didn’t vote Tory)

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 18:05

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 17:50

Not sure if you've heard of brexit?

Which the majority of people in this country voted for and most still support. I viewed against Brexit but I’m mature enough to accept that there were opposing views and the majority got their wish. We will never know what being in Europe would have meant to compare, so it’s a daft argument but often social media implies it’s the stupid few who wanted Brexit when this wasn’t the case.

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 18:20

@TeenLifeMum I was responding to the PP who said:

We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

As if brexit played no part. The evidence of that particular self-inflicted shit show is all around us, but in case you missed it there's a nice summary here news.sky.com/story/amp/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256

And yes the tories were responsible for it. And yes, they only secured that (51%) majority by lying to the electorate. Rotten to the core.

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 18:23

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 18:20

@TeenLifeMum I was responding to the PP who said:

We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

As if brexit played no part. The evidence of that particular self-inflicted shit show is all around us, but in case you missed it there's a nice summary here news.sky.com/story/amp/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256

And yes the tories were responsible for it. And yes, they only secured that (51%) majority by lying to the electorate. Rotten to the core.

They asked the country if we wanted Brexit and the majority said yes. I blame them for a lot but not that.

nhs wait times are due to covid plus poor funding and management. We did some great stuff when the budget was open but that was never going to last (nhs senior manager here).

i think most politicians are self serving and fairly rotten - it’s not specific to one party.

mummyh2016 · 05/07/2024 18:25

Some areas didn't have a Reform candidate. In my area we had one who pulled out at the last minute to deflect to the Tories, too late for Reform to put anyone else in. This meant those that would've voted Reform stuck with the Tories so our tosser of an MP kept his seat.

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 18:27

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 18:20

@TeenLifeMum I was responding to the PP who said:

We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

As if brexit played no part. The evidence of that particular self-inflicted shit show is all around us, but in case you missed it there's a nice summary here news.sky.com/story/amp/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256

And yes the tories were responsible for it. And yes, they only secured that (51%) majority by lying to the electorate. Rotten to the core.

The problem with the NHS is over use, an ageing population and more importantly chronic wastage of money!

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 18:29

User135644 · 05/07/2024 15:06

After the last 14 years how have they still got so many voters for this election (which was lost long ago)? And that's despite loads of Tories going Reform as a protest. Labour only just over 1 in 3.

They'll be back again for sure. Really is a Tory country.

Of course they'll be back. That's how democracy works ffs. Or do you think we should be a one party state ?

Labour have only been in power barely a third of the last century: they're historically a weak opposition. There's no reasons to suspect vast improvement and they'll fuck up in a decade and have another tory landslide.

MJon · 05/07/2024 18:30

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 18:27

The problem with the NHS is over use, an ageing population and more importantly chronic wastage of money!

The aging population is the problem. Keeping people alive at all costs which takes up loads of resources. Medicines have stopped the natural life cycle.

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 18:31

Payattentioninclass · 05/07/2024 15:08

Presumably they haven't had to use the NHS or go to a GP in the past decade so are unaware of how the Tories have wrecked healthcare... .

I have used it all and never had a problem being seen thanks.

stackhead · 05/07/2024 18:33

Isitsixoclockalready · 05/07/2024 17:32

Thing is that if it was all about the personal qualities of the MP then we'd have 600+ independent MPs.

And wouldn't that be refreshing! Though logistically a little difficult.

But real life aside, I agree, but it would've been nice if the labour/lib dem parties could've rustled up a local candidate.

Ultimately I've got to rely on my own MP to represent the interests of my area which are very different to the interests of urban areas.

2dogsandabudgie · 05/07/2024 18:36

MidnightPatrol · 05/07/2024 15:17

Yes - although.

I think there are a lot of people with a paid-off mortgage for a nice house, no childcare costs, a good pension etc who are quite truthfully really very comfortable.

They probably think things are quite good.

vs someone on an identical or higher income feeling like they’re struggling because of their insanely high mortgage / childcare / commuting costs.

The average retired household has a higher disposable income than the average working household.

Of course many retired households are well off. We are in that situation, no mortgage, adult children left home and are comfortable and don't have to worry about money.

But what you forget is that when we were younger we struggled with our mortgage, household bills etc. We had no savings, had cheap cars and holidays. There was no help with childcare fees either.

In years to come many of the working population now will be in the same situation as us as their children grow up and their circumstances change.

CranfordScones · 05/07/2024 18:41

There is a legitimate strand of political thinking to the right of the liberals. Why is that hard to grasp?

obsessedwithfreshbread · 05/07/2024 18:44

After 25 years of labour government here in wales we really know what living with a horrendous NHS, education system and massive wastage of public funds we can see the future for the rest of the uk, they can race to the bottom with us!

TheSerenePinkOrca · 05/07/2024 18:47

You vote for your local candidate. Our local labour candidate lives in London and didn't bother campaigning.

The Tory and Lib Dem candidates however have done a huge amount in the local area so it's no surprise that between them they had most the votes.

I've lived all over the UK and always voted for the local candidate who was best for the area.

AngryBird6122 · 05/07/2024 18:50

I voted Tory. I wasn't planning to at all, and don't agree with all of their policies of course but I did feel Sunak could have improved things further given more time. Local MP is pretty good, the best I felt anyway, and that's what I voted for.

I don't like KS at all but am interested to see what happens and of course for all of us hope it's good.

(I DO use the NHS fairly frequently and I DON'T have kids in private school)

sleepyscientist · 05/07/2024 18:53

Labour are nutritious for spending money we don't have and targeting our kids inheritance why would I ever vote for that!

The conservatives really need to come back and think about the squeezed middle if they want to win. The liberal democrats actually have more university educated than any other political party. It's a shame reform is the reason we can't be trusted with proportional representation.

The NHS is meant to cover essential health care not be a nice experience. I would rather wait or go private than pay more tax year on year to fund it.

itwasme123 · 05/07/2024 18:54

I voted conservative. First time ever I think

Yes I do know poverty, a year ago I had to feed two kids and myself on £35 a week. I managed it by the way. Oh and I have used the NHS too in the past year. For an emergency and for a routine operation. Oh and I'm a teacher so I have seen how shit schools have become.

The thing is, the way I see it is that the conservatives had to have austerity after the last labour government who got us in so much debt.. then they kept us going and had some money to spare for covid so we were actually ok.

itwasme123 · 05/07/2024 18:55

Posted too soon. Then Brexit made everything shit. So yes that was the conservatives fault but actually labour don't have a magic want and they will just get us in debt some more

Bushmillsbabe · 05/07/2024 18:55

x2boys · 05/07/2024 15:27

I worked for the NHS under labour ,it was shit than too ,what it really needs is a complete overhaul and cross party support but I can't see that happening or labour doing much other than tinkering with it.

Completly agree, having worked for nhs for 20 years, it was more rubbish when labour in power as we had lots of pressure to fiddle the wait lists. I actually have many more productive clinical contacts now than when labour in power