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Parking in disabled spaces when disabled person sitting in car

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Mokel · 05/07/2024 14:42

If the blue badge holder isn’t going to leave the car, the car shouldn’t be parked in a disabled bay.

The purpose behind disabled bays is for disabled people don’t have to walk far to entrances to shops, doctors etc. If not leaving the car, there’s no need to park up there.

If a non disabled person is going to leave the car leaving the disabled person in the car, they should be parking in a normal parking space.

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LuluBlakey1 · 05/07/2024 19:09

Aquamarine1029 · 05/07/2024 19:07

Who said anything about sharing? They could each have their own BB.

They could.

WasThatACorner · 05/07/2024 19:09

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:01

That is very unfair. The man was NOT disabled- he told me himself it was his wife's badge and that she was at home. And I certainly did NOT shout at him, or was rude. My comment was quietly made, and with a polite greeting.

I was in terrible pain myself, due to knee operation, but parked far from entrance where spaces were available as I would never take a disabled space, and didn't have a badge as temporary conditions do not warrant one.

Since then, pain continues and some days I can hardly drag my bad leg as knee won't bend. I do not take a disabled space and manage best I can, in pain. Hence the reason I do get annoyed (but remain polite and friendly) with those who abuse the system.

I do have a blue badge, you don't know that until you have approached me and asked me. How do you think that feels? My mental health is already impacted by the chronic pain and having to deal with the fact that this is my reality in my 30's.

Why should I have to explain my disabilities to a stranger?

Yes, people with BB abuse the system.

Yes, people without BB abuse the system.

I would rather work on the assumption that people are acting in good faith.

I'm sorry you are in pain with your knee and it must be upsetting when you think people are getting something that would very much benefit you. However, this doesn't give you the right to police BB spaces.

I recognise that you are coming from a good place but it is really upsetting being on this side of it and I don't think that's what you are trying to do.

LuluBlakey1 · 05/07/2024 19:10

LadyKenya · 05/07/2024 19:08

You cannot share a badge, still does not answer the question of how does someone know who it belongs to, does it?

As I remember from my mam's it had her name and photo on it- it was a long time ago now and I might be mis-remembering.

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:14

WasThatACorner · 05/07/2024 19:09

I do have a blue badge, you don't know that until you have approached me and asked me. How do you think that feels? My mental health is already impacted by the chronic pain and having to deal with the fact that this is my reality in my 30's.

Why should I have to explain my disabilities to a stranger?

Yes, people with BB abuse the system.

Yes, people without BB abuse the system.

I would rather work on the assumption that people are acting in good faith.

I'm sorry you are in pain with your knee and it must be upsetting when you think people are getting something that would very much benefit you. However, this doesn't give you the right to police BB spaces.

I recognise that you are coming from a good place but it is really upsetting being on this side of it and I don't think that's what you are trying to do.

Perhaps you did not read my initial post. The man with the badge, was running, out of the car, into the shop, around the garden centre. And I was in pain draggin my leg behind me. I asked him politely, with a polite greeting. It was abundantly clear that he was not disabled in any way- and immediately said it was his wife's badge, but that she was at home.

LadyKenya · 05/07/2024 19:14

LuluBlakey1 · 05/07/2024 19:10

As I remember from my mam's it had her name and photo on it- it was a long time ago now and I might be mis-remembering.

Yes they do, but it is on the underside of the badge, so anyone glancing at it through the car window, will have no clue as to who it belongs to.

LadyKenya · 05/07/2024 19:17

Some disabled people can run, walk fast etc.. There is not a specific look that all disabled people have. It is not wise to assume anything.

WalkingonWheels · 05/07/2024 19:19

Someone once came up and verbally abused my husband for parking in a disabled space and leaving me in the car. They had seen us in a different shop on the other side of the retail park, with me using my wheelchair.

What they didn't realise was that the blue badge on display belonged to my husband. Mine was in my own car at home. He has an invisible, extremely painful disability and wanted to pop into the chemist for some Deep Heat, so I stayed in the car.

Thankfully he gave the person in question a lecture on invisible disabilities, and I'm hoping they won't harass another disabled person in future.

Ginkypig · 05/07/2024 19:21

I’m sorry nothing to do with the thread but this has reminded me of the time my childless friend (who was driving) wanted to park in the parent and child section and when I said that wasn’t a great idea she responded very annoyed well how do they know iv not got children!
of course I had to then explain that it was for if your child was with you not just if you have children! 😂😂

WalkingonWheels · 05/07/2024 19:21

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:14

Perhaps you did not read my initial post. The man with the badge, was running, out of the car, into the shop, around the garden centre. And I was in pain draggin my leg behind me. I asked him politely, with a polite greeting. It was abundantly clear that he was not disabled in any way- and immediately said it was his wife's badge, but that she was at home.

How was it "abundantly clear" he wasn't disabled. My brother has a blue badge for a hearing impairment. He's perfectly capable of running and runs competitively. My friend is tube fed and has a blue badge. She is also capable of running and does extreme sports and weight lifting.

Stop harassing disabled people.

WasThatACorner · 05/07/2024 19:22

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:14

Perhaps you did not read my initial post. The man with the badge, was running, out of the car, into the shop, around the garden centre. And I was in pain draggin my leg behind me. I asked him politely, with a polite greeting. It was abundantly clear that he was not disabled in any way- and immediately said it was his wife's badge, but that she was at home.

I read your initial post, you were dragging your leg behind you in pain on your trip to the garden centre.

You saw a man rushing in and out, this doesn't mean that he is not entitled to a BB or entitle you to question him. Disabilities come in many forms. If you've ever seen the paralympics you would be aware that some disabled people cam move fast.

The fact that you did ask him, and found out that the badge wasn't his doesn't negate my point.

I'm not trying to start an argument. I can see your point and sympathise with how you must feel. I wanted to make you aware of how even a polite, friendly query can be upsetting. You are welcome to either listej and take this on board or continue as you are.

I hope that your knee improves and you can enjoy garden centres more easily in future.

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:24

Sorry, but why should someone have to park by the door of a garden centre due to hearing impairment? One of my best friend's is tube-fed, with multiple other issues, that she can walk and does not have a blue badge. If you can walk and run, why on earth would you need a blue badge, or have MH issues?

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 19:25

Technically right but surely the point of the blue badge is to make life easier for those for whom life is not easy so I couldn’t stress about it.

WasThatACorner · 05/07/2024 19:26

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:24

Sorry, but why should someone have to park by the door of a garden centre due to hearing impairment? One of my best friend's is tube-fed, with multiple other issues, that she can walk and does not have a blue badge. If you can walk and run, why on earth would you need a blue badge, or have MH issues?

You're not really getting my point.

That person has been awarded a BB because they have been assessed as being entitled to one.

Your expert opinion of whether they deserve one is not required.

Please leave them alone.

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 19:26

fungipie · 05/07/2024 19:24

Sorry, but why should someone have to park by the door of a garden centre due to hearing impairment? One of my best friend's is tube-fed, with multiple other issues, that she can walk and does not have a blue badge. If you can walk and run, why on earth would you need a blue badge, or have MH issues?

So someone who can’t hear sound walk across a busy car park unable to hear vehicles coming? Surely you understand that being deaf or blind would make that trickier, even if their legs work.

orangeleopard · 05/07/2024 19:34

i have a disabled badge for a physical disability which causes dibilitating pain. I don’t leave my home often, but when I do I need to park close or I cannot go. So with this in mind, I agree with you - if the disabled person is not getting more benefits from using the space than they would parking in an ordinary space then I believe they shouldn’t park there. At the same time, they’re a blue badge holder in a blue badge space so they qualify to park there. Also, there are disabilities that are not physical, a carer may need to jump out and get medication for example and park in a disabled space so they can still keep an eye on them without making them leave the care

WasThatACorner · 05/07/2024 19:42

orangeleopard · 05/07/2024 19:34

i have a disabled badge for a physical disability which causes dibilitating pain. I don’t leave my home often, but when I do I need to park close or I cannot go. So with this in mind, I agree with you - if the disabled person is not getting more benefits from using the space than they would parking in an ordinary space then I believe they shouldn’t park there. At the same time, they’re a blue badge holder in a blue badge space so they qualify to park there. Also, there are disabilities that are not physical, a carer may need to jump out and get medication for example and park in a disabled space so they can still keep an eye on them without making them leave the care

But how would you quantify 'more benefit from the space'?

The benefits may be different but which is 'more'?

I also have a chronic pain condition and sometimes can't go in shops because there isn't a space available. It's rubbish but I don't blame people who are parked in those spaces.

The problem is the world being inaccessible to disabled people, a hierarchy of disability helps nobody.

WorriedRelative · 05/07/2024 19:43

orangeleopard · 05/07/2024 19:34

i have a disabled badge for a physical disability which causes dibilitating pain. I don’t leave my home often, but when I do I need to park close or I cannot go. So with this in mind, I agree with you - if the disabled person is not getting more benefits from using the space than they would parking in an ordinary space then I believe they shouldn’t park there. At the same time, they’re a blue badge holder in a blue badge space so they qualify to park there. Also, there are disabilities that are not physical, a carer may need to jump out and get medication for example and park in a disabled space so they can still keep an eye on them without making them leave the care

You might want to check the terms of your blue badge as you don't seem to understand the rules. If the disabled person doesn't leave the car this is against the terms and they can face sanctions if caught.

CalmFox · 05/07/2024 19:43

My husband has a blue badge, he's uses a wheelchair as he is unable to walk. Sometimes he'll return to the car before me if we are shopping etc. I may be popping into another shop before going back to the car, or something as simple as returning the trolley. He often leaves his wheelchair assembled at the drivers door whilst waiting for me because of the amount of looks he gets, if he doesn't. We don't park in a disabled bay if he's not leaving the car. People are too quick to assume. He is entitled to park in the bay, unlike the many able bodied who are only going to be 5 minutes. I used to leave a 'you forgot to display your badge' note on windows with no badges when we couldn't park, but sadly I realised very quickly the world is full of selfish people.

Toastandbutterand · 05/07/2024 19:49

I have a blue badge but don't drive.

If someone is picking something up for me, and I'm in the car to facilitate the 50 documents I need for anything to be entitled to medicine, but I can't get out, hell yes I would use a disabled spot to make it quicker for me. I need to be home asap and I don't give a flying fuck what an able bodied busybody thinks.

If you come whinge at me I'm likely to vom or shit on you from stress.

Your call.

JudgeJ · 05/07/2024 19:51

Mokel · 05/07/2024 14:42

If the blue badge holder isn’t going to leave the car, the car shouldn’t be parked in a disabled bay.

The purpose behind disabled bays is for disabled people don’t have to walk far to entrances to shops, doctors etc. If not leaving the car, there’s no need to park up there.

If a non disabled person is going to leave the car leaving the disabled person in the car, they should be parking in a normal parking space.

Totally agree, it's the same as when a car is parked in a p and c space with the children left in the car with another adult.

SwordToFlamethrower · 05/07/2024 19:55

Park car with a blue badge. Yes. Says nothing about having to leave the car does it?

cansu · 05/07/2024 20:00

Why do you spend your time watching the people who use disabled spaces?

Payattentioninclass · 05/07/2024 20:05

SkippysEar · 05/07/2024 16:02

The Yanks use handicap people! Get over it, or maybe tell HQ to ban Yanks from the forum. I'm surprised they're not already.

So if the Yanks used 'cripple' you'd think it ok?

'Handicap' is offensive to disabled people people. Language around disability is important. Disabled people are disabled not by their disabilities but the failure of society to make adjustments to enable them to participate fully in society like anybody else. And that failure starts with negative attitudes of the sort you seem to show.

Toastandbutterand · 05/07/2024 20:06

Having just looked at my terms and conditions of my blue badge, it's there for anyone carrying out errands for me too. I don't even need to be in the car.

So a perfectly healthy person is FULLY ENTITLED to use my blue badge to carry out errands for me.

It makes no difference where I physically am.

K0OLA1D · 05/07/2024 20:06

JudgeJ · 05/07/2024 19:51

Totally agree, it's the same as when a car is parked in a p and c space with the children left in the car with another adult.

Bur there is nothing stopping the disabled person coming back to the car to sit in it before the driver or non disabled person comes back