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to ask whats the maximum sum you would be prepared to write off in this situation

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user09090909E · 05/07/2024 11:45

if you paid someone some money by mistake, they offered to refund it if you sent them your bank account details but you didn't want to give them your bank account details because you didn't trust them, what's the maximum sum you could live with as the cost of your mistake?

am in exactly this situation and am just thinking of writing it off. but unsure becauase of the amount.

OP posts:
Piccalillies · 05/07/2024 14:39

Why don't you open another bank account, you can do that online in minutes and then give those details for the repayment.

ememem84 · 05/07/2024 14:40

Can’t you just ask your bank to retrieve the funds.

Blueroses99 · 05/07/2024 14:44

kittensinthekitchen · 05/07/2024 13:01

I imagine many security efforts have been implemented since 2008.

Was it really that long ago? Honestly thought it was more recently. Sorry!

PickledPurplePickle · 05/07/2024 14:47

Jeez - you are dillusional

VotesForWomen · 05/07/2024 14:52

Can the person you accidentally payid not refund the transaction through their payment service provider?

Mind you I'd be cross if I had to do this, I would end up lumbered with the fee.

Cherry8809 · 05/07/2024 14:55

OP, you’re fucking hostile and so, so disagreeable 😂

If I were you, I’d write off the full amount and let them keep it as compensation for having to deal with you 🥲

AhBiscuits · 05/07/2024 14:56

Then to answer the question, the maximum I'd be prepared to write off is zero pounds as I'd give them a simple way to pay it back.

DampDust · 05/07/2024 15:00

user09090909E · 05/07/2024 11:45

if you paid someone some money by mistake, they offered to refund it if you sent them your bank account details but you didn't want to give them your bank account details because you didn't trust them, what's the maximum sum you could live with as the cost of your mistake?

am in exactly this situation and am just thinking of writing it off. but unsure becauase of the amount.

You only need to give them your Account number and sort code. They cannot do much else with it.
If you don't want to and its £20, I would ask them for cash

Mostlyoblivious · 05/07/2024 15:03

Give the details and then move your account. Who can afford to lose money at the moment..? If you’re savvy then you could do a switch which pays you

Fleur240 · 05/07/2024 15:04

@user09090909E I don’t know if I’m being stupid here but if it wasn’t some out of the blue payment and you seem to know the person well enough to know their e-security isn’t the best… why can’t you just ask for the money back in cash? Sorry if someone has already suggested this

DampDust · 05/07/2024 15:05

@user09090909E
How much is it for? Under £50 or over £1000??

YourWildAmberSloth · 05/07/2024 15:09

user09090909E · 05/07/2024 12:20

@JustPleachy well you aren't are you. you said there was zero risk.
I've just listed and linked to a number of things that are a risk.

Like I said, if you know anyone who's had large money laundering deposits made or fraudulent loans and id fraud you wouldnt be saying there was zero risk.

Even the admin and time involved in sorting out money laundering is horrific. If
A gets caught for money laundering and has made big deposits into Bs account because they have their bank details and were planning on a separate fraud to retrieve it, the criminal investigation will involve B who will have to show they were totally innocent and new nothing about it. who wants to get involved in that shit show?

Okay, but accidentally paying money into the wrong account and having it refunded to another account is a classic money laundering move. Just saying.

Movingtothecity · 05/07/2024 15:35

In the 'old' days did you never write out a cheque? Your account number and sort code would have been printed on every cheque you ever wrote.

BraveFacesEveryone · 05/07/2024 15:40

Not RTFT, but I’d just ask them to send it by PayPal if I was dead against giving them my bank account details 🤷🏼‍♀️

No big deal.

5foot5 · 05/07/2024 15:56

user09090909E · 05/07/2024 12:38

@FanSaBhaile

The fact that you can't see this is exactly what you're doing is 😵‍💫

Don't be insane.This was not ££££ nor was I offering a fee nor actually was I asking for a refund. It was not a cold out of the blue payment.

How did you pay them this money? Did you hand over cash in person? Or was it by bank transfer? Or some other means?

Bobbie12345 · 05/07/2024 16:22

I don’t understand how it can be that bad.
Every cheque has your account and sort code written on it.
You hand those out to all sorts of people when you pay by cheque.

NicoleSkidman · 05/07/2024 17:22

user09090909E · 05/07/2024 12:32

ManyMaybes · Today 12:23
Why would someone launder money into your account where it is then not accessible to them?

As part of a fraud. There are many ways to get it out but one way is to contact the recipient with a fake story about mistake payment asking them to pay it back but they can keep £1000 or whatever sum for their trouble - so create an innocent money mule.

They will often specifically target people who they can identify have or are likely to have money trouble.

www.experian.co.uk/blogs/latest-thinking/guide/money-mules/

Hang on OP, are you the one that has “accidentally” paid money into someone else’s account? Perhaps you’re the real fraudster!

MumblesParty · 05/07/2024 17:24

Apart from all the fraud fears etc, I don’t understand the logic of your question. Are you asking for advice, or just canvassing opinion out of curiosity? Because in terms of how much money people would write off, it’ll obviously vary massively, depending on how much money people have.

A multimillionaire would probably be happy to write off a few hundred, but someone on minimum wage wouldn’t.

skyandocean · 05/07/2024 17:39

With the responses you've given so far op, what exactly is the point of your post?

Either ask the person to withdraw the amount and give it back, just make some excuse about- it'll save you from going to withdraw.

Or just give ur account details, after they've paid your money, ask your bank to block any further faster payments from that particular account if ur so worried about them using it for money laundering.

From the responses none of us are willingly to let our money go.

LaWench · 05/07/2024 17:42

I have empty banks for this reason. I've worked in Finance for 25yrs. I'd not be prepared to write off any sum in this situation. However I'd be questioning why COP didn't apply when you were making the payment?

FusionChefGeoff · 05/07/2024 18:15

I run a business and give out my bank details every day on invoices to hundreds of clients to pay me 😁. I can't guarantee that they are all trustworthy or that their emails are secure.

How else do you think the world actually turns?

ibelieveshereallyistgedevil · 05/07/2024 18:28

user09090909E · 05/07/2024 12:50

@housethatbuiltme

But none of these things work if your not a complete fucking moron that lives under a rock.

I'm not so arrogant as to think that I could never fall for a fraud like that People who think only 'fucking morons' fall for banking frauds are themselves on that level.

Fraudsters are sophisticated clever and adept at using fear and urgent pressure tactics. Like romance scams, the media is absolutly full of accounts from people who were 'that would never happen to me, I'm too clever'.

You may think like that but I'm not so arrogant

In my experience they are mostly dim witted chancers.

Unless you are very wealthy and have £££££££££ sitting in your account.

Sophisticated fraudsters don’t waist their time stealing £100 here or there.

purplecorkheart · 05/07/2024 19:14

Is the payment to an individual or a business?

roundtheworldx · 05/07/2024 19:36

I didn't realise there was any risk in giving them a sort code and account number? I mean otherwise I'd just give them a basically empty bank account that I hardly use to send the money to.

mynewusername2023 · 05/07/2024 19:51

You can open online accounts in minutes these days so open a new account, have then send you the money, withdraw it and then close the account.