To think no politicians care at all

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So I was at a dinner party last night and all my friends where saying they're voting for labour and seemed really enthusiastic that everything will get better.
I too am voting labour but don't think much will change.. I have some American friends and they say Biden is just as bad as trump when it comes to politics even though they're on opposite sides. I feel it's the same in the UK.

I personally think most politicians are in it for themselves and serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism, and they are just here to manage all the chaos that's created in-between.
I think statistically things may look better but I don't think we will notice it in our daily lives.

I was saying this to my friends last night and they looked at me with sorrow. One of my friends said maybe I was depressed. Maybe I spend to much time on twitter...

Does anyone else feel like this?

I used to, until I had a good discussion with our local Labour candidate (the only one who responded to my questions, and he did so with astonishing detail and honesty).

He genuinely seems to care, both about the country and the local area, and he even changed his mind on a couple of things while we were exchanging emails.

I realise that sort of thing's pretty rare, though - at least, it has been in the last 14 years or so. I wonder if one result of the last decade and a half might actually be the opposition parties actually attracting people who genuinely do give a damn?

YABU - there are many politicians and not every single one is uncaring.

There are many who do, you just don't hear as much about them cause they're not causing issues. I do agree that in recent years it's been very blatant the lack of caring from a large amount of them though.

Daily lives will definitely be effected, not overnight and not a total u-turn but there will be baby steps in the right direction.

Our candidate where we used to live was amazing. If Labour get in then I’m hoping that she will get a chance at senior roles because she was bloody brilliant. Fearless, hard working, compassionate, intelligent and worked so hard. I’d love her to be PM.

I think there are a few in the main parties who are genuine and really care but I think it’s such a tough job with so much backlash that it attracts psychopaths.

I do think Kier genuinely cares about people though.

I think most do at least start out caring. I think it's a bit of a cliche that they're just in it for themselves, but the 'professionalisation' of being an MP (ie, do an Philosophy, Politics and Economics degree, become a Special Advisor to an MP, become an MP pipeline) hasn't helped because you get people with no life experience outside politics who are more likely to be yes men/women and just have a career plan mapped out rather than caring about constituents.

agreed about Keir - considering his career it would be pretty difficult to not develop empathy. I don't agree with him 100% but he's not out of touch like other recents have been.

He may have also suffered Sky TV deprivation as a child of course which means he will know what sacrifice feels like. 😉

I used to think this until DS started a job as a case worker for an MP. He works incredibly hard for his constituents, 12 hour days and 7 days a week. And according to the networks of other MPs support staff DS is in, this isn’t unusual. Yes, they have support teams but just because their workload is incredibly high and has increased massively since social services have been decimated.
Just because some MPs aren’t projecting their personalities in Parliament or social media doesn’t mean they don’t care. They are paid a fraction of the salary they would get in the jobs they could be doing given the qualifications and experience many of them have. Spend some time with your MP, leafletting or going to meetings. You will see what they do. Cynicism is really undermining our democracy.

They care alright , about their wages and future prospects. Beyond that I don't think many of them genuinely care

Today it was with a heavy heart that I.went to vote. No one party stood out for me as the party who were in tune with issues I was most concerned about. I could not bring myself not to vote, but I did so very reluctantly

@romdowa but how on earth do you know if they care or not? Have you ever really spent time with your MP?

It is a fact that most MPs take a pay cut when they enter parliament. Their salaries sound high but are very often less than they could earn in the jobs they are qualified for and experienced in.

My MP works pretty hard I think. I've met several local MPs over the years and I think they do and did care. When Labour lost the election in 1979 Merlyn Rees was my MP. He still travelled from London to Leeds the next morning to do his constituency surgery. After I met him and asked for his help I ran across him 3 years later at a work event. He remembered me and made a point of speaking to me and asking if I was doing OK. I remember him with a lot of fondness.

People go on about MPs being overpaid but the truth is most could earn more if they chose to, so at the very least they have made a financial sacrifice to do it. I suppose you could argue they're in it for the power trip, but I think most do care but obviously have their own definition of what "caring" means.

I'm not voting for anyone today.
They are all in it for themselves

@needhelpwiththisplease can you say exactly what it is that an MP gets out of the job that you object to?

Well my local mps all took 5k so a company could put up masts outside people's houses.
One also voted against FSM for the less fortunate during lockdown.
The independent voted to put 3000 houses on the green belt even though he was voted in because he campaigned against it.
He was the deciding vote.
So I assume he took some form of cash donation to sell everyone out.
They all just do whatever is they want and not what the constituents want, even though they are supposed to represent us.

Our previous Labour MPwas amazing, she did a lot for local people. Shame she got ousted and retired.

Exactly! To think UK, USA, France, Sweden, Germany, Italy etc... are all having major problems in society and with mistrust of politicians... I've given up fully on politics. Things will get worst nationally under all these parties like they have in most other countries.

I'm sorry but I've gone past the whole " he seems a nice guy and genuinely caring" we shall see! Hopefully I'm wrong and everything gets better.

Most trends in social and economic indicators are upwards - the number of people who have a vested interest in concealing that increases at election time.

Capitalism determines who allocates capital in the economy (private individuals or government). We have a mixed economy. If you think that's bad then read about the crushing joylessness and corruption of communism, not to mention the prisons and gulags.

The political system isn't perfect and would probably benefit from better quality politicians. But that seems to be a problem in most countries.

They all the same...I feel old but there no difference between labour and Tory....I promise you in 5 years you want a change ...they both the same.

Everyone saying they could earn more in a different job is forgetting to factor in expenses and the backhanders which every party has been guilty of in the past.

They all want their noses in the trough and will say anything to get votes.

They are egotists, they want people to pander to them. Thats worth more to them than money.

@Jutemat what trough do they have their noses in though? Most of them will be earning less and working longer hours than their usual jobs.

There are some corrupt MPs, yes and we have had way more unprincipled politicians in the last 14 years. But the majority stick to the rules. For every Boris Johnson there are 50 decent and civilised politicians.

Seriously, get in touch with your constituency MP. Email them a question, go to a meeting, ask to meet them at the Houses of Parliament for a tour. You will most likely find someone earnest, conscientious and committed to their job.

Well I can't see into Keir Starmers soul. But I've read the manifesto and if he can bring about even some of the things in it, thats good enough for me. Whether he cares or not (personally I think he does. He's a wealthy successful man, so why else would be front a party that will prioritise the needs of the disadvantaged over the wishes of the priveleged? Counter intuitive, surely?) Whether he cares is largely irrelevant. It's his actions not his emotions I'm interested in.

I do. They are all grim, out for themselves.