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Do any of arch-lockdowners regret it?

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Refractory · 04/07/2024 01:12

Just that really.

I haven’t really been on MN since 2020 because I found the near complete support for lockdown far too upsetting.

the lockdowners in my life seem to not think about it much. For them, it’s just over.

with hindsight do you wish you’d been more sceptical?

would love a civil conversation about this.

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Oldcroneandthreewitches · 04/07/2024 17:02

Dotjones · 04/07/2024 15:55

I still believe the lockdowns were far too lenient. We needed to be locked down sooner, harder, and for longer. I really enjoyed the first lockdown in particular because people observed it better and there were fewer people claiming exemptions. It was nice not to have to go out, for the street to be quiet with few cars outside. The later lockdowns were never as good.

Yeah I knew some people really enjoyed the lock downs. My brother did. Weirdos the lot of you

S0livagant · 04/07/2024 17:08

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 13:42

Yes, i read it properly.
Broke the rules. That's why society is shit. Because people do it selfishly
So if i break the rules by mugging or murdering someone that's ok?

In England, the law did not restrict leaving the house or exercise to once a day.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 04/07/2024 17:17

Beautiful3 · 04/07/2024 16:10

Who cares, it's just you and me and randoms on the Internet?! It's not real life. I'm not going to cry, because a stranger (you) has posted a rude comment about me?! 😆 Have a biscuit and jog on! 🍪

Glad you're having fun. Meanwhile there are people on this thread talking about the deaths of their loved ones. I'd say that was about as 'real life' as it gets. But hey, you feel free to dick about and post childish emojis if that's what floats your boat, because hey, it's not real life, right?

maw1681 · 04/07/2024 17:18

On the whole no I don't regret it. The only thing I think they should have done differently is opened the schools sooner. It's easy to say we should have done things differently now but at the time nobody knew how bad it was going to be, there were no treatments and no vaccine and the hospitals had ICUs full of seriously sick people.
It did mean I ended up spending less time as I would have liked with a dying relative, and didn't meet my new baby niece until she was 6 months old, but on the whole I don't think we could have done much differently

Samthedog71717 · 04/07/2024 17:28

@Ponderingwindow I mean this kindly and it must be horrible if you are or caring for someone who is medically fragile (much nicer term than clinically vulnerable). But we don't have access to tests as readily, employers now expect people to be in work and we don't have the infrastructure of pay etc to cover people for the time they have covid. For the "greater" good the general consensus is that we need to develop our natural resilience against it. Unfortunately this means people who are medically fragile being indoors more often. I'm not saying it's easy at all but you can't blame individual people for just doing their best. It is as it is as they say.

Samthedog71717 · 04/07/2024 17:35

I did socially isolate if needed but did go out for a walk twice per day alone and in the countryside. I did go over to my MIL twice per week for her shopping. There were no delivery services or volunteers that would take the shopping into the house and put it away for you and my MIL is unable to do that. I will not ever do it again.

Dontcallmescarface · 04/07/2024 17:38

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 13:42

Yes, i read it properly.
Broke the rules. That's why society is shit. Because people do it selfishly
So if i break the rules by mugging or murdering someone that's ok?

You think not being able to hug my dad at my mum's funeral is on a par with actual criminal behaviour?? Bloody hell you're cold.

TempestTost · 04/07/2024 17:57

ZooblesSpringToLife · 04/07/2024 12:28

Yes, the lockdown drove them to suicide. It's an extreme reaction. I agree, but the isolation and the inability to access their usual medical care destroyed their mental health. They simply couldn't cope

This isn't strange at all IMO.

There was a case here in Canada I heard of where a woman in a nursing home, after the first lockdown, made arrangements for assisted death if she were to be locked down again. People in nursing homes weren't allowed out, mixing was reduced and in fact at some points residents were restricted to their rooms, and visitors weren't allowed in.

I don't think that's any kind of extreme reaction. Who would want to live their final years like that, with the idea they might die of a stroke or something else, never seeing their family or the outdoors again?

TempestTost · 04/07/2024 18:05

All this "The rules were put in place for a reason".

Well, no, they weren't.

Most of it was made up with no scientific basis. Social distancing. Masks. Plastic barriers in shops. One way aisles. Weird rules about restaurants.

No thought was given to the consequences. Other diseases were ignored. Education was ignored. Effects on depression, obesity, domestic violence, addiction, were ignored.

And all this when it was known, early on, that once a disease became endemic, we would all be exposed to it eventually.

Plus all the fiddling with the statistics to make it seem worse than it was. If it was all justified, there'd have been no need to do that.

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 18:06

fedupandstuck · 04/07/2024 15:58

There's obviously a clear difference between those who did not follow the rules due to genuine concern about the effects on relatives/children, due to crises and extreme situations like terminal illness or other bereavement, or due to maintaining their own mental health, compared to those who didn't follow any of the rules anytime. Especially those people in authority who were being massively hypocritical and self-serving in a deliberate fashion and laughing with contempt towards everyone else they were supposed to be serving and keeping safe.

I think this is superbly well written.
For some, it was a great time for others it was truely traumatic. There are people who are mentally ill and people spending all their time with them who had a truely bad time.
It was an extreme measure to an extreme situation.

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:07

No I don’t regret it.

Why are these dimwits now thinking they’ve been proved right about covid, vaccines and lockdowns?

Bog off.

kkloo · 04/07/2024 18:07

inamarina · 04/07/2024 12:15

I agree. Someone on this thread said they didn’t leave the house at all for two months or so during the first lockdown and would happily do it again.
Surely they had groceries and such delivered to their home during that period? So they were quite happy for somebody else to leave their house to provide services.

Some people wanted to get out and about and keep working though.

A friend of mines husband jumped for joy when his job told him they were considered an essential service after they'd been off for a little while. He would only have been providing an essential service if the place he worked at was actually open at the time to the public but it wasn't open so he definitely didn't need to be there.

Another friend of mine worked in an office of a place providing essential services and from the second lockdown all the office workers who definitely did not need to be in the office all chose to go in rather than working from home.

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:08

Kinshipug · 04/07/2024 10:25

How do you define a "needless death"?

A death that could have been prevented?

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 18:08

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:07

No I don’t regret it.

Why are these dimwits now thinking they’ve been proved right about covid, vaccines and lockdowns?

Bog off.

Ego!
:D
They are ego driven and are not about to admit being wrong. Even the ones who insisted that the restrictions were for good.

Kinshipug · 04/07/2024 18:14

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:08

A death that could have been prevented?

Even if it is a housebound 90yo who would be long dead by now anyway? Really?

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:16

Sweden99 · 04/07/2024 18:08

Ego!
:D
They are ego driven and are not about to admit being wrong. Even the ones who insisted that the restrictions were for good.

Yes, their egos grew because there were huge numbers of them all egging each other on, so they (for the first time in their lives no doubt) felt like they were experts on something. They didn’t realise that by asking nonsense questions like “how does covid know what time it is” they were reinforcing the necessity of the lockdowns for the sensible, more intelligent among us, who understood the concept of minimising risk, and even understood that the rules were developed taking the dimwits who wouldn’t follow them into account.

I bet these same people were also solving the Nicola Bulley disappearance.

Utter clowns.

inamarina · 04/07/2024 18:18

kkloo · 04/07/2024 18:07

Some people wanted to get out and about and keep working though.

A friend of mines husband jumped for joy when his job told him they were considered an essential service after they'd been off for a little while. He would only have been providing an essential service if the place he worked at was actually open at the time to the public but it wasn't open so he definitely didn't need to be there.

Another friend of mine worked in an office of a place providing essential services and from the second lockdown all the office workers who definitely did not need to be in the office all chose to go in rather than working from home.

Oh, I can well imagine that!
It’s just that PP sounded rather pleased with themselves for not leaving the house for a couple of months while ignoring the fact that many others who were providing essential services couldn’t do the same, whether they might have wanted to or not.

Butchyrestingface · 04/07/2024 18:18

Dotjones · 04/07/2024 15:55

I still believe the lockdowns were far too lenient. We needed to be locked down sooner, harder, and for longer. I really enjoyed the first lockdown in particular because people observed it better and there were fewer people claiming exemptions. It was nice not to have to go out, for the street to be quiet with few cars outside. The later lockdowns were never as good.

Lol.

"On your scorecard, please rate your favourite Lockdowns from 1 to 5."

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:39

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Lovely

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:42

TempestTost · 04/07/2024 18:05

All this "The rules were put in place for a reason".

Well, no, they weren't.

Most of it was made up with no scientific basis. Social distancing. Masks. Plastic barriers in shops. One way aisles. Weird rules about restaurants.

No thought was given to the consequences. Other diseases were ignored. Education was ignored. Effects on depression, obesity, domestic violence, addiction, were ignored.

And all this when it was known, early on, that once a disease became endemic, we would all be exposed to it eventually.

Plus all the fiddling with the statistics to make it seem worse than it was. If it was all justified, there'd have been no need to do that.

Of course there was science around it - but muppets that question “weird rules” really shouldn’t be looking for the science.

Clarabell77 · 04/07/2024 18:43

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PregnantWithHorrors · 04/07/2024 18:46

There was absolutely shitloads of science behind the legal definition of a substantial meal, I'll have you peasants know.

Adviceneeeeded · 04/07/2024 18:47

I hated it and was very anti it. I was alone with 4 kids home schooling and working. Dh was allowed to go to work after a short spell.

It was awful

Kinshipug · 04/07/2024 18:48

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Would be pretty silly not to really. Presumably you give all your free time and all your worldly good to the preservation of housebound 90yos? No?

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