Do any of arch-lockdowners regret it?

[Refractory]

Just that really.

I haven’t really been on MN since 2020 because I found the near complete support for lockdown far too upsetting.

the lockdowners in my life seem to not think about it much. For them, it’s just over.

with hindsight do you wish you’d been more sceptical?

would love a civil conversation about this.

While people on here are casting blame on eachother for following lockdown rules or disobeying them, we all know that Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock will definitely not be soul searching. Divide and rule and all that...

No. No regrets whatsoever.

I'm sorry you felt like that, and I wasn't "mocking" or at least not of you. What I am "mocking" of is people who call everyone who followed lockdown rules "arch lockdowners" or claiming we should all be "embarrassed" or feel "shame".

I'm also neither arrogant nor thoughtless as a person , thank you, nor "inconsiderate" and certainly no more than people making (false) claims about the rest of us. Perhaps we could just dispense with the personal insults and accusations? Your post made quite a few claims of my character, you don't know me and your anger is wholly displaced.

OK, very sorry to hear that.

Yes, i read it properly.
Broke the rules. That's why society is shit. Because people do it selfishly
So if i break the rules by mugging or murdering someone that's ok?

Seriously? Are you that mindless? I suggest you familiarise yourself with some historical examples of the consequences of blind obedience.

I am probably a bit unusual in the respect I didn't mind lockdown at all but it is not something that I thought was well implemented.

Furlough was especially badly implemented and we are going to pay the economic price for that for a long time to come.

TBH I think people in these sorts of situations tend to rail against stuff they are not allowed to do rather than seek out the opportunities that different situations present.

For example one of my friends who moaned continuously about lockdown and the fact it "stopped them doing things" had a house like a skip both at the start and end of it.

Opportunity wasted IMO.

You really think driving out into the countryside for a solitary walk or visiting a lonely friend (who might be struggling with their MH) is comparable to mugging or murdering someone?
Can you imagine questioning any rules ever or would you just blindly follow them no matter how illogical they might seem?

I was casting aspersion on your comments, and the way in which they were made. This is a sensitive subject that is still raw for a lot of people, regardless of which one of the many corners of the lockdown debate you're in.

A post like that just makes you come across like a juvenile idiot.

So sorry you had to go through all of that bananathon - so much damage caused to families who wanted to support each other and would obviously keep everyone safe at the same time.

I have a photo taken inside my eldest daughter’s home when I was there after my grandson’s birth, of my youngest daughter and her children ‘meeting’ their new nephew/cousin through the glass in the window - their faces say it all, it was heartbreaking.

My then 5 year old granddaughter and her younger brother who was 15 months old still wanted cuddles from me - I admit to calling round to both daughters’ homes later in 2020 when we weren’t allowed to meet inside and I didn’t insist on social distancing with them.

You are being deliberately goady
Blind obedience is nothing to do with it, as well you know.
The rules were put into place for a reason.
Those of you who gleefully broke them (then berate others here for not being arseholes), are not better than those partying in Downing Street while others could not be with dying relatives

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Just a reminder ladies that all posts you disagree with are probably written by men pretending to be women

Oh please. I most certainly did gleefully break the rules. I went out for (shock horror) 2 walks some days! I even went to the shops just for biscuits on occasion. Sometimes we spent more than an hour at the park! Who dropped dead when I pushed into 61st minute? Idiotic thing to say.

I still believe the lockdowns were far too lenient. We needed to be locked down sooner, harder, and for longer. I really enjoyed the first lockdown in particular because people observed it better and there were fewer people claiming exemptions. It was nice not to have to go out, for the street to be quiet with few cars outside. The later lockdowns were never as good.

There's obviously a clear difference between those who did not follow the rules due to genuine concern about the effects on relatives/children, due to crises and extreme situations like terminal illness or other bereavement, or due to maintaining their own mental health, compared to those who didn't follow any of the rules anytime. Especially those people in authority who were being massively hypocritical and self-serving in a deliberate fashion and laughing with contempt towards everyone else they were supposed to be serving and keeping safe.

We needed to be locked down sooner, harder, and for longer.

I know a lot of business owners who feel very differently, especially my friends who lost their business and subsequently their house.

Lockdowns were too lenient? Said nobody with children, or jobs, or friends.

Who cares, it's just you and me and randoms on the Internet?! It's not real life. I'm not going to cry, because a stranger (you) has posted a rude comment about me?! 😆 Have a biscuit and jog on! 🍪

One does have to bear in mind that people's willingness and ability to observe these things is time limited. In a society like the UK without nearly enough police or armed forces to coerce the population, that matters.

People have to want to do it, which is the reason so much emphasis was placed on trying to make them view themselves as less safe.

I didn't regret it until I realised the very leaders imposing it did not adhere to it.

Sabotaged my career to make sure my child had access to a present parent whilst the nursery was closed, and for what? Boris and co to have a jolly good time.

How did you do your shopping etc? Get the elusive toilet roll?

What harder rules would you have imposed?

I thought you wanted a conversation @Refractory , so where are you?