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To go abroad for one day?

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Teacherbee85 · 02/07/2024 19:32

I'm reading about people who do 'extreme day trips' from the UK to abroad.

I've been looking into it and I've found flights that go to various European cities - leaving first thing in the morning and coming back late at night.

I'm so tempted to say fuck it and just book a solo trip.

Any thoughts?

OP posts:
Edingril · 03/07/2024 08:20

In my head it sounds great but I think the getting to and from.both airports then getting around, then possible delays mean I wouldn't do it for the few hours I had

Ineffable23 · 03/07/2024 08:24

Damnloginpopup · 03/07/2024 07:49

If I was close to Stansted I'd be doing Ryanair somewhere for weekends at least once a month. I love to travel, always find cheap flights and travel with a sub-1kg bag for a week.

Never thought about a day trip, sounds great! We have free lounge passes too so we would only need to buy lunch 😎

Once drove to Serbia for dinner (from Bulgaria) and Macedonia for a beer.

I don't care about my carbon footprint if I'm honest, the whining is probably coming from a lot of hysterical hand wringing virtue signalling people with their flown-in asparagus, mangos, strawberries etc in the fridge who drive far more mikes in a newer and larger vehicle than I do. Let he who is without sin...

I'm currently doing over 2 weeks on Ryanair (paid for) hand luggage. I have friends who reckon they can't do a week without checked luggage and after this trip I honestly can't see how it can be necessary.

billyt · 03/07/2024 08:34

Many years ago, there was a company based in Bournemouth called Bath Travel. They used to do various day trips using their own flight company with one plane, Palmair. Lord Bath used to stand by the departure gate saying good trip to every passenger Grin

My wife and I did Venice for the day, this gave us the taste and we stayed in Venice many times.

My favourite was a day trip to Cairo. My wife had to be careful where she went so she booked Cairo for me as fascinated by Egyptian history. Left Bournemouth Airport 5am. Went to the Cairo museum, coach tour of Cairo (dirty), spent time at the Pyramids at Giza, went down inside a pyramid, and the area around the Sphinx. Back to Bournemouth by midnight. Saw all the bits I needed to. Wonderful memories.

I seem to recall that the last time we flew from Bournemouth. Lord Bath's son was resurrecting Bath Travel. Not quite the same, though.

Slightly different, but my wife and I did many weekend trips to the States. Both Washington and New York. First flight out Friday morning, last flight home Sunday evening. Very full on, but worth it each and every time.

4fingerKitKat · 03/07/2024 08:56

Missgucci · 03/07/2024 07:42

But the demand is there regardless to op so where as you have a point about demand...it's there at this point so no point giving everyone a lecture about the environment. It's not us little ppl that are the issue... tell the wags who take a private flight to where ever they have been traveling to during the euros.

That’s like saying “eating meat is bad for the planet but it doesn’t matter if I buy steak in the supermarket because that cow is already dead”. That’s not how supply and demand works.

And I hate the “but there’s someone else doing something worse than me” argument. “What’s the harm in me throwing a crisp packet on the ground when other people are fly tipping mattresses?”. Take some personal responsibility.

I don’t think we all need to give up flying completely or anything radical but deciding to take an “extreme day trip” dwarfs most other day-to-day decisions in terms of environmental impact.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 03/07/2024 09:12

Dh has done it more than once, for an exhibition or a concert in Paris or Berlin. We do live in outer London though - fairly handy for both Eurostar and Heathrow or London City airport.

Ohnobackagain · 03/07/2024 09:15

Teacherbee85 · 02/07/2024 22:45

I'm in Scotland!

Doh! Still go for it. If no delays it will be fine, especially if you pick somewhere with easy airport travel at the destination (eg Salzburg, Leipzig, Bratislava, Jerez, Paris, Seville to name but a few).

4fingerKitKat · 03/07/2024 09:17

Bjorkdidit · 03/07/2024 07:41

But the carbon cost of individuals doing this a couple of times a year is dwarfed by weekly business travel, flying tat produced in mega factories all over the world, people having children - the annual carbon cost of a monthly return flight to New York is less by far than having even one child, so if people are expected to pay for the carbon cost of flying, they need to also pay the cost of other life choices.

I have no DC, don't buy tat and eat hardly any meat. Even if I fly short haul a few times a year, it's nowhere near that of non flyers who have children.

I don’t buy the “having children is bad for the planet” argument. Unless you’re such a radical environmentalist you think we should sacrifice the entire human species to save the planet, having kids is fairly essential to humanity’s continuation. It’s not optional at the population level We’re already heading for a population crisis due to plummeting birth rates (who is going to pay for all the old people?).

Comparing having children to taking a flights for a nice lunch and a couple of hours sunshine is totally laughable, sorry.

Lifestooshort71 · 03/07/2024 09:21

Do all you eco zealots check where your out-of-season fruit/veg has come from or your rubbish purchases from Amazon? They don't arrive in the UK on a magic carpet or a wind-powered container ship. I'm as careful as can be to avoid green beans from Kenya or cheap polyester from China so taking the odd empty seat on a flight to Europe doesn't dent my conscience.

Sondheimisademigod · 03/07/2024 09:21

Tagyoureit · 02/07/2024 22:06

That flight will still be flying whether it's full or nor, so no point wasting all that fuel, might as well do it!

The excuse of the eco-denyer

MrsClatterbuck · 03/07/2024 09:27

Dh and I once went to Brussels for the day with 2 other people. Had a lovely day.

Got some Christmas shopping in. Also flew to Glasgow for the day with work colleagues again it was a great day. This was probably at least 15/18 years ago.

Hellogoodbyehello4321 · 03/07/2024 09:30

Maybe when I was younger I could get on board with this, but these days I couldn't be arsed with dealing with airports for the sake of only one day.

Amsterdam has come up a lot because of how quick the flight is but there is certainly plenty to do in Amsterdam that justifies spending more than a day there.
I could see it as a fun novelty thing to do, but it does sound like doing it for a novelty rather than the actual joy of exploring somewhere properly.

HonestyBuyer · 03/07/2024 09:40

Some from myself & family

I know people who fly to Iceland, go to the Blue Lagoon hot spa, lunch, then fly home the same day

Also
Ferry, Dover, Dunkirk, drive to Belgium for duty free & back again

Also
Fly Heathrow, train to Amsterdam & back

Also
Ferry John O Groats to Orkney, coach tour round & back

Ferry from mainland Scotland to Outer Hebrides, drive & ferry back from a different departure point on the islands

Ferry from mainland England to Scilly isles, coach tour round isles & back

Train London to Dundee & back in one day

Maddy70 · 03/07/2024 09:41

Ive been to Amsterdam and Barcelona for a day go fof it

longdistanceclaraclara · 03/07/2024 09:41

We used to do regular day trips to France. Loved them.

Maddy70 · 03/07/2024 09:42

StripedTomatoes · 02/07/2024 22:17

This is such a silly argument. No, the flight wouldn't be flying if there was no demand, i.e. if people didn't do stupid shit like go abroad for a day.

Empty flights still flew during covid to keep slots open

angelcake20 · 03/07/2024 09:43

I have a hobby where people do this quite a bit and I get infuriated. The environmental impact really cannot be justified for such a short trip (the plane is flying anyway argument is nonsense as it is just a result of many individual decisions, which can be changed). The huge amount of similar business travel frustrates me equally.

CleanShirt · 03/07/2024 09:46

I went to Paris for the day last month and going to Brussels for the day next week. God bless the Eurostar flash sale!

Ponoka7 · 03/07/2024 09:50

4fingerKitKat · 03/07/2024 07:25

I can see why this is tempting I really can but from an environmental perspective it’s kind of grotesque. It’s one thing to fly for a 2 week summer holiday because I don’t really expect people to be such hair-shirt environmentalists that everyone has to forego 2 weeks in the sun (I’ll be flying for my summer holiday this year). But for the most part people seem to be doing these “extreme day trips” just because they can, because it’s cheap, for the sheer hell of it. It’s not as though people are typically choosing to do a day trip instead it’s in addition to other trips. It’s all extra flights.

And it’s a nonsense to say “the flight is going whether I am onboard or not” - you are creating the demand - ok that flight on that particular day will still take off, but long term flights only operate where it’s economic to do so. The person who talked about the environmental impact of producing almond milk earlier - if someone said “if I didn’t drink it, someone else would” - would you accept that argument? It’s exactly the same.

I think there needs to be some massive reform to the way we pay for flying. Someone used the example of using tumble driers earlier so I did some rough maths - a short haul flight emits about as much CO2 as using a tumble drier every day for a year. But using the tumble drier daily could cost £500 and a return short haul flight might be £20? It’s completely insane - we need to pay the carbon cost of flying.

Have you been to the US and seen what they are driving, even in cities like Chicago? Have you researched ommissions globally?
Us doing our home recycling and limiting our flying is going to do nothing.
OP I do day trips around the UK, so it's no different. You get the vibe of a place and then can decide to do longer. Flying from Liverpool, it's cheaper to get a cheap hotel and do an overnight, so research it and if you can make it work, then go for it. It's one if the things thar makes me keep my fitness up, at nearly 60, I don't want to stop travelling. I also think that the more travel, the less shite you buy and don't have meat eating pets etc.

DataPup · 03/07/2024 09:52

Maybe when I was younger I could get on board with this, but these days I couldn't be arsed with dealing with airports for the sake of only one day.

This. I used to love airports when I was younger but hate them now. Not sure if they've got worse or I've just got older and grumpier.

TonTonMacoute · 03/07/2024 09:53

GHG emissions from the Internet dwarf that from global air traffic, and what do we do with that? Sexting, funny cat videos and arguing with strangers on Internet forums.

If you want to save the planet then go offline and go abroad for the day - but it's not really about saving the planet, it's about keeping us plebs in our place (both literally and metaphorically).

MissAmbrosia · 03/07/2024 10:02

I live in Brussels so we do this a lot. Though in our case there are loads of places you can get to in under 2 hours from home by car or by train. We often pop to NL for lunch or shopping. Germany for xmas markets. Lille is lovely. Don't really bother with Paris, though i have to go there for work.

DancingLions · 03/07/2024 10:38

I'm a smoker, I do this often and bag cheap cigarettes in duty free. Win win!
Yes it's tiring but I'm in my 50s, menopausal and pretty knackered generally, and I manage it.
I'm in London so easy for me to get to a few airports. The places I arrive at, it's usually 15-20 mins to the city centre. Although one thing to be wary of is passport control. If you go somewhere popular at peak time, you could get stuck in a long queue now we can't use the EU gates anymore.

Babyandmexox · 03/07/2024 10:42

Go for it!! Personally I'd rather find a cheap hotel/hostel for one night. People who are saying it's not environmentally friendly - it's not making a difference if them flights are already scheduled regardless of you getting on them; not like your getting on your own personal plane. And if you are, don't 🤣

andthat · 03/07/2024 10:46

Teacherbee85 · 02/07/2024 21:49

Thanks for the encouragement everyone, I think I'm gonna go for it 😀

Thinking either Amsterdam, Ibiza or Barcelona .

I travel once a fortnight for work. If the flights are on time, then it’s a breeze.

However, they are frequently delayed or cancelled. As long as you accept that there is a probability you won’t get the time you were planning, then go for it!

CMOTDibbler · 03/07/2024 11:09

Go for it! I'm in Paris for the day today- I did have something I needed to pick up here, but done now and now I am having a lovely lunch

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