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How can I end this work friendship with the least amount of fallout?

53 replies

mintbug · 02/07/2024 14:41

I’m looking for advice and maybe to hear from people who’ve experienced something similar. Posting here because I’ve lurked here a long time and know I’ll get a range of points of view. I’ve never posted on MN before and am a bit scared people are going to tear me to bits but here goes.

Last year, a woman joined the company I work for. We got chatting at a social and realised we had interests in common. She seemed quite keen to be friends and we started getting to know each other and eventually arranged to hang out outside of work. Over the next few months, we went out 4-5 more times (drinks, dinner, theatre etc). We exchanged small birthday gifts. I’d have described us as casual friends.

Gradually, I started feeling like she was trying to push for a closer friendship than I felt was natural for how long we’d known each other and the amount of time we’d spent together. Outside of work, she’d message me constantly. Even if she didn’t really have anything to say, it felt like she’d use any excuse to get in touch. She wanted to see me all the time, and it felt like she was trying to force closeness by inventing and overusing private jokes and nicknames, that sort of thing. In short, I started feeling smothered.

She’d also ask me constantly if I was okay. Virtually every time I saw her at work, she’d ask if I was alright, saying I didn’t seem myself or that I seemed down. It started making me paranoid, to the point where I asked another work friend if I seemed grumpy (they said no). She’d also message me asking where I was if I decided to work from home, or where I’d been if I had to leave for an appointment. I found out she was also asking other people where I was, and if I was okay.

On top of this, I started to realise that we didn’t have as much in common and weren’t as compatible as friends as I initially thought. We arranged a night out together earlier this year, and she was quite hard work about it, making everything more complicated than it needed to be, and generally being high maintenance. My close friends are all quite easygoing and I find that level of intensity quite tiring.

All things considered, I decided I’d go ahead with the plans we’d arranged and not agree to see her outside of work again.

I started taking a little longer to reply to her messages – still being friendly but trying to avoid inviting further conversation and setting boundaries with my availability. I politely declined invitations. I tried my best to take a step back without hurting her feelings and hoped she’d get the hint and match my energy. Perhaps I could’ve dealt with it better, but a slow fade felt best considering I’d still have to see her at work.

It’s been months now, and the woman is relentless. If I don’t reply to her texts, she messages me on social media, and then on Teams. She compliments me excessively and comments on my appearance a lot and it makes me uncomfortable. She asks to make plans and I always make an excuse.

Because she doesn’t seem to get the hint, I’ve tried adopting a tougher approach and simply not replying (which makes me feel guilty), but that seems to make her more desperate for my attention and she gets even more intense. If I cave and send a polite response to try to placate her, she goes into overdrive and starts messaging even more. I don’t know what to do anymore.

I don’t want to hurt her feelings and I don’t want any awkwardness, but truthfully if I didn’t have to see her at work I’d have lost my patience and ghosted her by now. I'm at the point where I get stressed and anxious every time I see or hear from her. What can I do?

OP posts:
SixFifteens · 02/07/2024 14:47

Sounds like it’s time to have a face to face conversation if it’s all making you anxious. Just say that’s it’s nothing personal but you’ve found her a little full on and you don’t feel you have much in common with her, it would be kinder in the long run. If you can’t be that blunt, then just say you’ve got a lot on so can’t be messaging and socialising all the time.

MrsJimmyPerez · 02/07/2024 14:58

You have my sympathy OP because I went through similar. It's a nightmare when somebody decides you're their best friend but to you they are a casual/circumstantial friend.

I tried explaining I was busy, meeting less often, making excuses, then a 'slow fade' (after getting advice on here) but she never took hints and my withdrawing seemed to make her more persistent. I started to feel I had a stalker.

Eventually I moved house, fifty miles away, without telling her. She soon heard I'd moved and my blood ran cold when she texted wanting to arrange to visit me.

I replied (dishonestly) saying I was making a fresh start and would only be keeping in touch with 'close friends and family'. I never heard from her again. I still wince when I think about how cruel that message was and how much it must have shocked and hurt her but by then I couldn't see any other way to end our contact and I don't regret sending the message.

I'm only half joking when I say can you get a new job?

MatildaTheCat · 02/07/2024 14:58

God she sounds like a stalker.

I think you have to get over your politeness and say to her either in person or via a message that you are sorry but you don’t have any space in your life right now for all of these messages and personal attention and whilst you value her as a colleague that’s all it will be. Maybe even signpost her to a local Meetup group if you think that’s appropriate.

tell her firmly that she please needs to stop messaging you, it’s having a negative effect on you. Then keep a clear boundary at work.

I might even mention all of this to your manager in case she starts claiming that you are bullying her.

Difficult.

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 02/07/2024 14:59

I’d say -

‘I’ve got a lot going on at home and friendships are going on the back burner at the moment so havnt got the mind space for texting and making plans and you hope she can respect your need for privacy’

If she asks you what it’s about just say it’s very private and you will not be discussing it.

mintbug · 02/07/2024 14:59

SixFifteens · 02/07/2024 14:47

Sounds like it’s time to have a face to face conversation if it’s all making you anxious. Just say that’s it’s nothing personal but you’ve found her a little full on and you don’t feel you have much in common with her, it would be kinder in the long run. If you can’t be that blunt, then just say you’ve got a lot on so can’t be messaging and socialising all the time.

Thank you. I'm worried if I tell her outright she'll take it really badly and working with her will be horrendous, so maybe I'll try the less blunt option.

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BleachedJumper · 02/07/2024 15:00

I think I’d go with a phone call/coffee over lunch and say you’re pretty overwhelmed in life at the moment and need/want to take a step back from being social and as available to others.

Very much a ‘It’s me, not you’ approach, but if she presses I’d be pretty firm that there’s nothing you need any help or support with, and you’re just hoping to conserve your resources.

mintbug · 02/07/2024 15:05

Thank you everyone - this is so helpful.

@MrsJimmyPerez I love my job, so would rather not have to resort to that. Maybe I could try secretly moving!

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Starlightstarbright3 · 02/07/2024 15:06

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 02/07/2024 14:59

I’d say -

‘I’ve got a lot going on at home and friendships are going on the back burner at the moment so havnt got the mind space for texting and making plans and you hope she can respect your need for privacy’

If she asks you what it’s about just say it’s very private and you will not be discussing it.

I like this it’s direct …

However I would be careful saying stepping back from friendships , she might see you out with others . Maybe I am keeping work and home separate . I won’t have time to reply to texts but will see you around at work .

i also agree let manager know incase it gets messy

Speakingofdinosaurs · 02/07/2024 15:06

I would also suggest having a brief face to face with her to say
“Look nonfriend, I just need to tell you that I’ve got some personal things going on at the moment, so I’m going to prioritise them and step back from meeting up & messaging etc. I know you’ll understand.”

Deep sigh and walk away.
Then dont reply to her messages - she’s been told - and hopefully after a few weeks it’ll all die down and fade naturally.

BESTAUNTB · 02/07/2024 15:08

BleachedJumper · 02/07/2024 15:00

I think I’d go with a phone call/coffee over lunch and say you’re pretty overwhelmed in life at the moment and need/want to take a step back from being social and as available to others.

Very much a ‘It’s me, not you’ approach, but if she presses I’d be pretty firm that there’s nothing you need any help or support with, and you’re just hoping to conserve your resources.

I think that this is a great idea.

I would mention the problem to your manager as a PP suggested, just to cover yourself if she decides to make a meal of it at work.

JurassicClark · 02/07/2024 15:12

How about “I need to take a step back from a lot of my friendships now. I have too much on my plate. I know you’ll understand when I don’t get in touch much in the future; you’ve always been very caring about my wellbeing like a crazy invasive stalker. I need to concentrate on myself and my family for the next few years.

”Thanks for being understanding and supporting me with this, it means a lot.”

That way she gets to see herself as being the perfect friend by leaving you alone, and if she gets in touch you can remind her that leaving you be is how she’s supporting you.

As for why? That’s very personal, and you appreciate her respecting your boundaries and not prying 😉

BlueMum16 · 02/07/2024 15:15

BleachedJumper · 02/07/2024 15:00

I think I’d go with a phone call/coffee over lunch and say you’re pretty overwhelmed in life at the moment and need/want to take a step back from being social and as available to others.

Very much a ‘It’s me, not you’ approach, but if she presses I’d be pretty firm that there’s nothing you need any help or support with, and you’re just hoping to conserve your resources.

I'd add to this that you are now separating work/home life and will be removing work colleagues from socials/personal numbers and you hope she understands.

You can then block her.

Roryhon · 02/07/2024 15:22

I think all of these pretences if having loads going on at home are just going to send her into overdrive asking others if you’re ok, and you’ll possibly get a million questions if you are seen or heard to have been out with other people. I think you might be best being a little more honest - say that you like her, but are feeling completely smothered and overwhelmed by the constant messages and you need more space or it will eventually drive your friendship away. Tell her she needs to back off. After all this time and owning to the fact that your slow fade didn’t work I think it’s either you or her that will get a bit upset. And you’ve bourne the brunt for a long time anyway.

TwigletsAndRadishes · 02/07/2024 15:33

Oh god, I feel for you. I've been in this situation more than once and it's so difficult. I've actually moved house to get away from an over-friendly neighbour who I allowed myself to get sucked into a friendship with too early on and then couldn't extract myself because she was only a few doors away. Can you leave your job? 😂

Most people do take the hint after a while but some people are just really thick skinned and bad at reading the signals. I suspect she's probably really full-on with everyone she befriends and smothering people to the point that she drives them away is a pattern for her.

Or is it a pattern for you, that you hate feeling 'owned' or beholden to people in friendships, so back off as soon as you feel people expect more than you want to give? I know that's true of me, so I suppose it's six of one and half a dozen of the other.

I agree with others that you are going to have to have a chat with her.

Say something like: 'look it's nothing personal, I'm just quite a self contained person and I can't cope with friendships that are too clingy.

I just don't feel we have enough in common for me to want to see you regularly other than as colleagues and all this constant messaging is just not my style. I run out of things to say. I am happy to chat in person if we bump into one another in the office, like I would with any other colleague but the pressure to keep responding to your messages coupled with the expectation that we will keep doing things together outside of work is too much for me.

I am really sorry if that hurts your feelings, but I need to be honest.

Do it by text if it's easier.

BSky · 02/07/2024 15:36

This sounds really difficult.

I agree with @Roryhon about the approach.,
My personal style would like you be to distance myself or say I have alot going on/stepping back from friends etc. But then you'll still be carrying emotional stress if you are seen with other colleagues at work socially or outside of work.

Be honest about enjoying her company but her messaging etc is now too much and you cannot reciprocate the friendship in the way you think she would like or how you want to. Mention the messaging has become stressful/demanding if she needs to know why or even that it makes you feel smothered if she really doesn't understand. Be friendly at work but maintain a boundary with not messaging outside of work etc.

Hope it works out ok

BSky · 02/07/2024 15:41

Some helpful ideas and insights from @TwigletsAndRadishes too about being up front.

Conniebygaslight · 02/07/2024 15:46

Well she's certainly got you on the ropes OP hasn't she!
Her behaviour is not acceptable, she clearly has no boundaries at all and you're left in a situation where you can't win as she will no doubt be 'hurt' by any rejection. People that manipulate like this in the guise of being kind/friendly/considerate really annoy me. None of her behaviour is about you it's all about her. Good luck OP she's put you in a bloody awful position.

familyissues12345 · 02/07/2024 15:54

I agree with a previous poster, I'd probably kill her with kindness sort of thing. So along the lines of " I need space, blah blah, I know you care about me so will understand etc"

That way she'll feel important, but hopefully will listen...

Easipeelerie · 02/07/2024 16:03

You have to treat her like a cold calling salesperson. Anything you say to her will be fuel for her. I think there’s not a lot you can say to her to stop her obsessive behaviour.
To my mind, your only options are to in confidence log your concerns with a trusted manager or HR and/or leave your job.

madameparis · 02/07/2024 16:07

It’s so hard isn’t it. I had this with a girl at High School - I was quite a shy kid and had a few friends but one slowly became my “best friend” because we lived close to each other. She wanted to walk/to from school together every day, spend every break time together, kept turning up at my house at the weekend, wouldn’t leave me alone for a day. I was just so smothered and suffocated by her that one day I just snapped and said that it was too much and I was being smothered ….. no cross words, I wasn’t rude, I just said that it was all too much for me and I needed to back off a bit. She stormed off, never spoke to me again and then made my life torture at school and formed a group of girl friends that were just relentlessly awful to me.

In your situation, if this ever happened to me as an adult I think I would have to change jobs and change my phone number!

Normalnot · 02/07/2024 16:11

Poor you - I could not be arsed with that!! It’s hard because you work with her so it’s not as simple as ghosting her. Got no advice really but she sounds like a bad head!

Allshallbewell2021 · 02/07/2024 16:12

It's a great lesson to learn. My best friend always says - keep work friends as work friends, and friends as friends and try to have clearer boundaries than allow for this.

It's ideal if possible for work friends to become closer over years so you know if they have the potential for needy and unhinged behaviour.

Mad to leave a job over but God knows I can relate to the awful awkwardness.

Allshallbewell2021 · 02/07/2024 16:14

What bleachedjumper
Said was great advice IMO

Hankunamatata · 02/07/2024 16:15

Have you actually ever told her she's being a bit much?