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to think social housing tenants need their Horizon moment and lessons have not been learned

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JenniferBooth · 01/07/2024 18:23

I had a visit from my housing association income officer last Monday . Insisting we owe rent when we dont.

Get a load of this.

"OneSanctuary SAP is the name of a multi-million pound software system brought in by Sanctuary in 2016, designed for use by all areas of the business. It has been an unmitigated failure, and is a huge drawback of working for this company.
The issues caused by SAP are staggering and difficult to keep track of. Because SHA tried to implement SAP in a cost effective manner, they ended up vastly under-investing in critical elements. There is no tailoring of the generically presented system ('vanilla SAP'), which is an issue as social housing is a unique environment from a service delivery and CRM perspective, whereas vanilla SAP is more geared towards providing a solution for manufacturing industries. Thus, the system uses corporate nonsensical buzzwords and methods of handling accounts which absolutely do not reflect industry practice.
Here are just some examples of the more specific issues faced by staff:
No rent statements have been issued since it was implemented in August 2016, and if a resident insists on a rent statement it has to be prepared manually in a spreadsheet
The rent and calculations for accounts are hard to use, and often completely wrong. Mostly because the system was never designed to understand housing benefit payments, and this has a very convoluted workaround which a computer cannot make sense of.
SAP cannot interface with Local Authorities Housing benefit systems so payments are missed, lost or misattributed
Direct debits do not work reliably, and for a long time following the implementation did not work at all. Front line staff are now preferring standing order.
The front end system of SAP requires far more testing and money spent on it. Each customer account is a total mess of information, with no discernible way to separate notes left between differing departments, with information left by staff often going into the wrong account entirely. This needs looking at as from a compliance (DPA) point of view the breaches are serious
From a usability point of view, the view of a customers account within SAP CIC does not display appropriate information to the user (as stated before this is likely because the system was never designed to be used by a HA) and the user often has to go trawling around back end systems to find obviously relevant data (e.g tenancy start date, account balance, property type etc). This is a seemingly minor but considerable waste of resources"

And just like Horizon and the PO they will not admit that anything is wrong.

He stood at my door on Monday and pretended to look bewildered when i told him i knew all about their SAP. He also gaslighted me when i reminded him that this harassment has been going on for seven years and we have had previous letters demanding rent we dont owe and he had the gall to tell me that they were just general rent increase letters I can read. i know what they are and have kept them all. The first ones are tucked inside my 2017 diary with all the notes about their lies and obfuscation when all this started which is still going on.

It apparently has to be paid again because the system cannot find the money that has ALREADY been paid.

Lessons have not been learned

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Mistymountain · 24/07/2024 19:05

And yet everyone complains about small landlords

JenniferBooth · 25/07/2025 19:30

JenniferBooth · 01/07/2024 23:56

We have paid extra in the past It just disappears into an abyss.

I will take this oppurtunity to point out that the money the sub postmasters were supposed to have stolen wasnt showing up in their own personal accounts but that didnt stop them being sent to prison.

And here we go again. Now £237 has disappeared into the same abyss.

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JenniferBooth · 16/09/2025 13:20

Now apparently six hundred and thirty pounds and twenty nine pence has dissappeared into the same abyss. numbers arent working on my keyboard.

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CornishTiger · 20/09/2025 12:26

Have you raised a formal complaint yet. After exhausting the complaints process you can go to the housing ombudsman. They would be interested.

Also involved your MP.

which HA is this?

JenniferBooth · 20/09/2025 14:52

CornishTiger · 20/09/2025 12:26

Have you raised a formal complaint yet. After exhausting the complaints process you can go to the housing ombudsman. They would be interested.

Also involved your MP.

which HA is this?

Sanctuary. And my neighbour got the same letter for exactly the same amount?

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CornishTiger · 20/09/2025 16:49

You really need to start the complaints process

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