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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

to be an equally shit neighbour?

211 replies

SkyeB86 · 30/06/2024 17:48

In 2019 a new family moved in next door and immediately they started acting a problem. Then lockdown happened and it escalated. Big heavy basketballs thud constantly from morning till night, kids (6 of them) scream at each other (and I mean blood-curdling screams at times) they think it's fine to jump into my garden whenever they fancy. I had a word with the dad, his response was that other than them jumping in my garden, they're not breaking any laws so he wouldn't be telling the kids to quiet down. Fair enough, they're not.

So I've bought some Bluetooth speakers. Whenever they get too noisy, I play music in my garden which effectively drowns them out, and can only be really be heard from NDNs garden. The dad has this weekend asked me to keep it down.

AIBU to think that if they can have the 'fuck everyone else' attitude, then so can I?

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Nanny0gg · 30/06/2024 19:00

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 18:14

whats a resonable level? reasonable for who? you i guess!

I think you know the answer to that

But definitely below screaming level

DogInATent · 30/06/2024 19:00

LaPalmaLlama · 30/06/2024 18:59

Man in Finance. Unbelievably irritating ear worm with no artistic merit whatsoever.

But it misses out on the true evil of being something they'll hear again and again in the future, triggering the negative associations...

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:01

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I validate OP.

I have children and tell them people sleep in the day so they can be awake to help up at night so the least we can do is be respectful because we wouldn't like it if those people were loud when we were sleeping.

Kids can be as loud as they want in suitable recreational spaces.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:03

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:01

I validate OP.

I have children and tell them people sleep in the day so they can be awake to help up at night so the least we can do is be respectful because we wouldn't like it if those people were loud when we were sleeping.

Kids can be as loud as they want in suitable recreational spaces.

Kids can be as loud as they want in suitable recreational spaces.

like their own home?

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:04

DogInATent · 30/06/2024 18:51

You only need a one track playlist. And ideally something they won't object to on first hearing it. Maybe they're football fans, so Sweet Caroline. On repeat. For hours. And not loud enough to cause a noise nuisance, just loud enough to be a constant in the background. All day. Every day.

A one track playlist with songs that are censored but entirely inappropriate for kids so they take them out. Perhaps something lovely about bitches and hoes woth a lovely catchy tune that they might repeat.

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:04

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:03

Kids can be as loud as they want in suitable recreational spaces.

like their own home?

Like a public play park or woodland. Not a residential area.

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:05

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:03

Kids can be as loud as they want in suitable recreational spaces.

like their own home?

Or would you fight for my right to party all day because its my own home

suburburban · 30/06/2024 19:07

How big is the house for 6 dc

Roadaheadclear · 30/06/2024 19:07

My neighbour asked if we minded the basket ball sounds when we moved in. Reasonable people know it’s annoying! We ignore it as we have 2 DC so can also make ball and trampoline noise.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:07

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:04

Like a public play park or woodland. Not a residential area.

Do people seriously not think that children should not be allowed to be children in their own home?

i am truely shocked, and dispair at society today..

The OP alledgedly plays music so loud into their neighbours garden, but it would appear they don't hear this music themselves?? to drown out the noise of the neighbours children.... how does the Op hear the neighbours children if they are making that much noise, yet they can't hear the music they are blasting over the fence??

I shall leave it here.. it doesnt make any sense

billysboy · 30/06/2024 19:09

tell him to fuck off and carry on with your music

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:10

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:05

Or would you fight for my right to party all day because its my own home

absolutely... its your house!

its within the boundaries of your own home.. the law says you can party all day if thats what you want to do.

suburburban · 30/06/2024 19:10

@beckybarefoot

Yes but to be considerate of others in the neighbourhood

It can be done

Geiyotue · 30/06/2024 19:11

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 18:26

the op has said that they play music in a way that only the NDN can hear...

Which is considerate. She's not disturbing the neighbourhood, she's just ensuring she has something nicer to listen to than the kids next door, who the neighbours allow to be really noisy.

MoiraPose · 30/06/2024 19:11

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I'm in my thirties and I think the OP should turn her music up even louder.

As you say, during certain hours we can all make as much noise as we like so what's the problem? I guess there's no need to teach children the importance of being good citizens and taking care of their communities, let them make other people's lives a misery. After all, children who are brought up to think they're the centre of the universe and there are never any consequences to their actions are always such a pleasure to be around when they become adults aren't they?

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:12

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:10

absolutely... its your house!

its within the boundaries of your own home.. the law says you can party all day if thats what you want to do.

And so OP will. Perhaps you're the neighbour and you'll love it when she plays Eminem "Fuck that, cum on your lips and some on your tits on repeat amd your little darlings exercise their right to scream it in school.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:14

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:12

And so OP will. Perhaps you're the neighbour and you'll love it when she plays Eminem "Fuck that, cum on your lips and some on your tits on repeat amd your little darlings exercise their right to scream it in school.

yes.. but you forget.... the Op is directing the music directly into the NDN's garden... i think you will find there are some offences there....

MoiraPose · 30/06/2024 19:14

I'd suggest some German techno interspersed with dubstep OP-trust me.

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:16

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:14

yes.. but you forget.... the Op is directing the music directly into the NDN's garden... i think you will find there are some offences there....

Do you think the police will go to the effort of obtaining and exercising a warrant, from a judge, for a noise nuisance offence that you say doesn't exist because OP has the right to enjoy her home the same way the neighbourS children do?

CraftyGoblin · 30/06/2024 19:18

Yabu because intention and how it will be seen if reported.

Their kids are not intentionally making noise to annoy you. They are entitled to play and make noise. Many councils and housing associations will not accept reports about the noise from children playing.

You are intentionally making noise because you don't like what they are doing. You could get into trouble for that if it constitutes a nuisance.

Some may think that's unfair but there are specific things that you can't make complaints about. Noise from everyday living such as toilets flushing, children playing, disability aides like stairlifts.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:19

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:16

Do you think the police will go to the effort of obtaining and exercising a warrant, from a judge, for a noise nuisance offence that you say doesn't exist because OP has the right to enjoy her home the same way the neighbourS children do?

never mentioned the police did i? the council deal with noise complaints, although im not sure what offence knowingly allowing and intentionally ensuring minors hear lyrics you suggest?

the OP is not partying, they are not having friends round... they are playing, at your suggestion, sexual lyrics at volumn for minors to hear.. on purpose.

very very different to a party....

HappyBackHome · 30/06/2024 19:22

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Or maybe the poster is able to ascertain what a 'reasonable' amount of noise from children would be - surely her neighbour's children aren't the first children she has ever encountered?

Most (reasonable) people, no matter their 'maturity' are able to understand that children continually bouncing a basketball and screaming in the garden is not 'just children being children'... but I think you are fully aware of that!

Unless you do, genuinely, think that screaming is usual play behaviour?

In which case, if you have children that scream a lot, you are checking that they aren't seriously injured/needing assistance every single time they scream - or maybe you should actually be supervising them and teaching them to be decent members of society while you're at it!

Andwegoroundagain · 30/06/2024 19:24

Well I think you could point out as PP suggested to the NDN that you're playing music to drown out their noise. And see what they say!

Fargo79 · 30/06/2024 19:25

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:19

never mentioned the police did i? the council deal with noise complaints, although im not sure what offence knowingly allowing and intentionally ensuring minors hear lyrics you suggest?

the OP is not partying, they are not having friends round... they are playing, at your suggestion, sexual lyrics at volumn for minors to hear.. on purpose.

very very different to a party....

You have become so embarrassingly overinvested in the thread that you are now making things up. Nowhere does OP say she is playing sexually suggestive songs to the children.

cappycap · 30/06/2024 19:26

There is nothing wrong with children playing in their garden, just as there is nothing wrong with the parents requesting the children keep the noise down.

And noise down doesn't mean silent! Just less noisy. Can just imagine it. Thankfully I live rural with no neighbours, just have to listen to my own two, but they do get told to lower the volume if it interrupts what I'm doing.

Well brought up children will respect boundaries set by parents. It shouldn't be an issue.

Basic consideration for neighbours shouldn't be such an issue either, especially if you live in a built up area. It's just common courtesy.

Not surprised the OP has resorted to trying to piss them off, they sound unreasonable.