Found out I didn’t get the job from social media

[whatfornow]

There was an internal job going in work and various people applied.

On Friday I noticed I had a missed call from my manager from the day before at 5.30, I had logged off just before 5 so didn’t see the call. Then due to various meetings and work I had to do it just slipped my mind to call him back.

i went onto Facebook after I finished work on Friday and seen a post that my colleague had been given the job and realised that was why my manager had called me.

AIBU to be annoyed to have found out from Facebook or was it my own fault for not calling my manager back?

he said he left me a voicemail but I didnt get the notification for the voicemail and no further attempt was made to try and contact me on the Friday.

^^ I actually agree with this since it was an internal promotion that was being applied for and that would have been what happened in my old workplace too.

But, you didn't pick up the phone, or send an email to your manager, and you knew they had tried to let you know, so I think you should let this go.

Maybe they can't force the candidate, but why can't they ASK POLITELY and explain why the candidate could hold off for just a few days for other candidates to be informed.

It was 24 hours between you missing the call from your manager and seeing the post on facebook. 24 hours in which you could have called your manager back to see what they wanted. Your manager left a voicemail which didn't reach you - they weren't to know that. They would have assumed you got the message and therefore no need to follow up with an email.
You should have phoned your manager back to find out what they wanted. Do you often not phone them back if you miss their call? Wonder if that's part of the reason someone else got the job.

As far as the manager was concerned, they had contacted you. It's not their fault that your service didn't pick up that you had a missed call and voicemail nor that you can't have been too bothered about the role in the first place if it took you all of Friday and you still didn't notice any missed communication.

You shouldn't tell the person who's been successful until all of the unsuccessful people have been told if it's an internal job.

Also have a look at your time management/organisation skills. Being unable to return a call from your manager the next day is not a good look. If this is normal for you, it might be one of the reasons why you weren't offered the job. Being able to take accountability for your actions (or lack of) is also important.

YABU. You seem to lack any accountabilty and have some serious main character syndrome.

You were informed by your manager 24 hours before you saw it on facebook. You missed that he left a voicemail (whether this was a tech issue or not, he had no way to know and it wasn't his fault), then de-prioritized calling or emailing him at any point between Thursday at 5:30 and leaving work on Friday, so the fact that you didn't actually hear the news was your own fault. The successful candidate will have been told and accepted the position before you, so they waited at least a day for everyone else (including you) to be notified before posting on their personal facebook.

And while we're at it, stop friending co-workers on social media. It never leads to anything good.

So, your colleague learns they got the job and they can’t be happy and share the news because they have to wait until you have time to return a call? No, you missed the call. They don’t have to wait for it to be convenient for you.

You've never hired someone for a role before, have you?

The successful candidate is told first & they and the employer agree on terms. Only once they accept are the other candiates told that the role has gone to someone else, because the first choice for a role may not end up accepting.

Nonsense! The person might turn it down so you offer it, confirm they say yes/agree pay etc then let unsuccessful candidates know. You ask the successful candidate to give you the rest of the day to let candidates know before they speak openly and, hopefully, excitedly. You want someone who is excited about their new role.

I agree with you @whatfornow

You are an employee, your manager didnt do enough to let you know. It's piss poor cos your manager knew how busy you were on Friday - they can see your diary fgs.

Glad you didnt want it too.

Sadly youre manager has screwed up, hope uou can get over it otherwise its time for a job change...

I recently interviewed internally for a job where I was clear that I wouldn't be applying for the "full" role but was able to offer excellent part-time skills that would benefit that team as a carve out of that role. I had been to see the hiring manager and we had agreed this was the appropriate route to take. I work part-time and received an email on my day off to let me know that I hadn't been successful and would receive proper feedback on my return to the office. Lots of very positive comments in the email from HR. I did receive verbal feedback from the hiring manager - all good.

So I totally agree the only way for the company to do this was to formally advise you in writing (email being acceptable) and to follow up with the verbal conversation. So I agree the company didn't do this properly. Not all of us are on our phones all the time.

I don't think that the internal promotion should have been announced on Facebook. Very different from finding out say via another colleague who might not have been aware of your application, when the successful person told them.

Even though you should have called your boss.

YABVVU - you had a whole day to call your manager back and you didn't.
Also what difference would it have made? You didn't get the job either way.
It looks like other jealous people are fanning the flames. I feel sorry for promoted colleague having to deal with people already out to get her.
Also she should kick all of you off her personal FB

Seriously? I always do.

It's pretty basic and courteous. You let them know they were successful and, if they accept, ask them not to post on social media/talk about it to mutual colleagues or acquaintances until you've confirmed all the other candidates have been notified.

I completely agree and feel it's really poor form to treat an internal candidate this way.

In the organisation I work for the successful candidate is contacted first and they are asked not to share until the rest of the candidates have been informed they were unsuccessful. It's a respectful approach. Sorry you found out that way OP.

Your bigger issue if you’re Facebook friends with colleagues- it’s a massive blurring of professional and personal boundaries.

When I’ve done recruitment with internals I’ve always asked people to hold fire telling people until I’ve had a chat with other internal candidates first. That is only fair really but your manager did try and contact you and can’t control staff being on each other’s social media.

This. YABU.

It would be so much better if everyone stopped trying to turn everything, whatever the situation, into ‘I’m the victim here’.

They tried to call- you missed/ then didn't respond to a message from your manager for 24hrs. I don't think they were unreasonable

You can't expect her manager to chase her up! Most managers would have an expectation that their employees would make the effort to respond to them the next day, no matter how busy their day is. This kind of entitled attitude won't get the OP promoted.

Your manager had no way to know you had your colleague on fb or that said colleagues would post saying they got the job.

Annoying for sure but just one of those things, and not your managers fault.

Sorry but this. As a manager all they have to do is reach out which they did.

Please read this @whatfornow as this is all you need to know

Your manager tried to call you.
they had no way of knowing you didn’t see it
They had no way of knowing you would prioritise all other work over contacting your manager
You had 24 hours to contact them but you didn’t
The manager had no way of knowing you are friends on Facebook with the candidate

And yet you still blame other people?

To be frank, I wonder if you can see potentially why you may have missed out on the role, if you easily forget to call back senior staff, and blame everyone else when things don’t work out as you expect?