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Would you be able to be honest with this mum

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dilemalema · 24/06/2024 13:05

Hello

So my dd has had a male best friend (let's call him Dave) since beginning of primary school. They are now in secondary school and have remained friends but not best friends.

We have spent lots of time with this family over the years and it's all been great. Dd and Dave were always round at each other's houses and spent lots of time together. Dd has other friends but Dave does struggle with this and can be quite isolated.

A few months ago dd told me Dave had told her he likes her more than friends and she had told him she doesn't feel the same. They are only still early secondary for info. Dd is not into boys yet. Well apart from pop stars.

Dave's mum invited us round a short while after that and dd asked me to make an excuse not to go. I found this odd as dd would normally like going to see Dave. I asked dd to be honest with me as I had noticed she was more distant with Dave recently. Dd said Dave had been saying that he liked her and talking about thinking about her a lot, even at night and how he can imagine them being together etc this happened a few times after she made it clear this is not what she wanted. I advised dd that she did the right thing distancing herself as it made her uncomfortable. I then made an excuse to Dave's mum.

Since then Dave's mum has invited us round or to meet at places a few times and I have made more excuses but I think she is getting a bit suspicious.

Last week dd and a female friend were laughing about what some of the boys at school say to girls. I was with them so they were not hiding this. Female friend then said to dd "can't believe what Dave said to you urrrghhh". I asked what it was and dd laughed and female friend said "I can't tell you but it's not appropriate trust me" then laughed. I did push a little bit but left it alone as I didn't want to upset dd. I did have a hard word about boys making them uncomfortable and to be confident in telling them to stop and telling an adult and so on.

Me and a few friends, including Dave's mum, are due to go on a weekend away soon and I think that dd being distant and the excuses may come up. I'm not very good at being honest in such situations and hate conflict. I'm a people pleaser to my own detriment and it stems from childhood trauma but that's a different story. However, I need my dd to know I have her back and il always protect her. Plus I feel like I need to show her we as women should be confident to challenge this sort of behaviour. When she has made it clear this behaviour is unwanted I want her to be able to tell the person to stop unapologetically. I can't even do it so it's a big ask.
I really like Dave's mum but I don't think the truth will go down well and I know she has enough rubbish going on in her life and our friendship is important to us both.

What would you all do in this situation.
Aibu to keep making excuses and hope she stops asking us to spend time together.

OP posts:
BirthdayRainbow · 29/06/2024 14:19

Feeling sorry for her is daft. You should feel sorry for the girls that he is making feel uncomfortable. You can suggest what the mother should do but she's not the one who deserves your pity.

TheaBrandt · 29/06/2024 14:40

God agree. I feel sorry for the young girls he perves and leers over not his grown ass adult mother who should have done a better job raising her son in the first place. She should know. Agree feel for op though being the messenger is never fun as they tend to get shot.

theonlygirl · 29/06/2024 17:50

Fraaahnces · 24/06/2024 13:12

Frankly, Dave sounds like a wannabe sex pest.
I think you and your DD need to stop making excuses and start speaking frankly with the little twerp. He is using his friendship with her to make her feel guilty for not wanting to be frank with him for not wanting the same thing as him. Gross. There are overtones of entitlement and manipulation here. Also, it might be smart to explain to his mum after DD has had her say that you will not be fostering the friendship between them because as it stands it’s not a “harmless little crush” and you would really like to speak to her son about the way he speaks to your daughter and other young ladies as he clearly has issues.

Edited

a wanna be sex pest... little twerp, manipulation, seriously? Could he not just be a young boy navigating his feelings and puberty?

I have read your subsequent post and am very sorry that happened to you, but there's nothing similar in this boys behaviour from the OPs description.

babadumm · 29/06/2024 18:40

Big fat drip feed in OP's posts – from the boy having a crush to suddenly being a known sex pest. I really dislike these sort of drip feeding posters as you can never tell whether they're just adding bits to support their agenda/story.

MMAS · 29/06/2024 22:14

I'd be finding out what it was he actually said - without that you don't have a leg to stand on given you aren't confrontational. Without that knowledge you can't approach his mother. You have got to get that info from your daughter. If you think at all she is afraid then go to the local police station and ask advice - tell her you will do this if she won't tell you as this isn't going to go away. He will continue to stalk her

Laboheme78 · 29/06/2024 22:47

We had a similar situation with my DD (13). A very nice boy who she liked basically declared that he wanted them to be more than friends, she was not ready or interested in that. We talked about how important it was for her to just be honest but kind about it. He didn’t take it that well, blocked her on snapchat or something (which for teens it seems is quite drastic). I’m not really close to his parents but the boy moved on pretty quickly. Good luck. Really positive your daughter is telling you this stuff.

PloddingAlong21 · 30/06/2024 08:21

Not a big deal:

”we’ll Dave has told dd he has feelings for her beyond friendship. Dd has told him those feelings aren’t reciprocated so think maybe it’s a little awkward between them whilst they navigate this one. I’m sure it will return to normal and they’ll hang out again soon.”

babadumm · 30/06/2024 11:20

MMAS · 29/06/2024 22:14

I'd be finding out what it was he actually said - without that you don't have a leg to stand on given you aren't confrontational. Without that knowledge you can't approach his mother. You have got to get that info from your daughter. If you think at all she is afraid then go to the local police station and ask advice - tell her you will do this if she won't tell you as this isn't going to go away. He will continue to stalk her

Yeah police valid if it was actual sexual harrassment but if it was just a teenager confessing a crush in not the most appropriate way, you'd sound totally mental.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 30/06/2024 11:47

PloddingAlong21 · 30/06/2024 08:21

Not a big deal:

”we’ll Dave has told dd he has feelings for her beyond friendship. Dd has told him those feelings aren’t reciprocated so think maybe it’s a little awkward between them whilst they navigate this one. I’m sure it will return to normal and they’ll hang out again soon.”

Perfect response

Goodtogossip · 01/07/2024 14:42

Wait til Dave's Mum brings it up & just tell her that Dave has said he has feelings for her in more than a friendship way & your Daughter is taking a step back from their friendship as it's made her feel a bit uncomfortable & doesn't want it to be awkward between them. Explain that you've encourage this so your daughter can carry on being friends with Dave but it isn't giving him false hope that they can be anything more than just friends.

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