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Waitrose incident.

698 replies

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 13:56

I am not sure if I am being sensitive or if I should complain.

Every Sunday morning I go out for a coffee and read my book, then do the weekly shop without the children. I like to be back before midday so I can spend the rest of the time with my children, including 9 month old baby. We have every supermarket local to us, Sainsbury’s, Waitrose, M&S, Asda, Tesco, and I always use the ‘scan and shop’ to make the shopping as quick and easy as possible. I’ve never had an issue until today in Waitrose. I’ve only used it a couple of times in Waitrose and never for a big shop.

After scanning my entire shop, strategically packing it so it’s easy to unload at home, I went to pay. When I beeped the scanner, it flagged up as needing to be checked. I thought that was fair enough, it happens sometimes, and I haven’t done a weekly shop in Waitrose before using the ‘scan and shop’ option. The worker came over and said she needed to rescan 30/58 items. I thought that was ridiculous, in every other shop they scan a random selection of a few items, not over half your shop. It seemed pointless to me to have even used the option in the first place, but I didn’t say anything and the worker started to empty shopping bags full to rescan items. This was taking ages, but I just stood patiently waiting for her to finish.

Then, she came across one that I apparently hadn’t scanned. I know I did, but it was a yellow sticker packet so I can only assume that it hadn’t registered properly. She repeatedly asked me if I had scanned it, and I repeatedly told her I had but it clearly hadn’t registered.

She told me she would need to rescan my entire shopping trolley, then took me over to a till, and I stood on the end whilst she unpacked every single one of my bags and scanned every item individually. It was completely unsubtle, in front of all of the other customers, and obvious that they were rescanning the entire shop in case I was attempting to steal things. I felt like an idiot and a thief. To make matters worse, I am a small business owner working with children, and had already bumped into several of my clients in the shop. I was absolutely mortified thinking that they may think I am a thief.

I was thoroughly embarrassed and teary eyed, and hastily shoved everything back into bags whilst the Waitrose worker apologised. Half of my shopping is crushed as I was shoving things back into the bags indiscriminately. I promptly paid and left but it has really upset me. By that point, I’d spent around 20 minutes having everything rescanned.

AIBU to think that if Waitrose are going to have a system that is open to abuse, they need to have a solution that doesn’t involve treating customers like thieves? I have never had an experience like this in any other store and whilst I realise they have to protect themselves from theft, surely this is not the correct way to go about. It’s not the Waitrose workers fault, it just seems like a very poor system and they shouldn’t offer ‘scan and shop’ if this is the way they treat customers.

OP posts:
andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 23/06/2024 19:12

If they do deliver to your area, just order online in future.
I can't cope with the self scanners.

itsgettingweird · 23/06/2024 19:14

If I saw someone having a scan check I'd just think "thank fuck it wasn't me this time" 🤷‍♀️😂

It's normal, it happens to lots of people. Occasionally it does pick up something unscanned.

It really doesn't require tears and embarrassment and if that's your response I'd suggest sticking to having it scanned at the till from now on.

ThePlinkyPlunkyMusic · 23/06/2024 19:15

Dont use the self scan. That's the answer.
If everyone keeps using manned tills, you are doing the economy and the people with jobs a favour - as well as avoiding this kind of nonsense.

There was an article by a journalist the other day who had this happen to him (random full shop re-checks) three times in a row. What's the point?

countcalculia · 23/06/2024 19:15

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 19:07

@thequickbrowndog I had scanned the item properly, it registered on my scanner, just not the workers (I’m making an assumption it was because it was yellow stickered). Others on this thread have had similar happen to them so I’m clearly not alone.

I’m not questioning them checking, I’m questioning the procedure being done in a way that makes customers feel uncomfortable, embarrassed and criminal. There must be a better way of doing it.

In your OP you said ‘Then, she came across one that I apparently hadn’t scanned. I know I did, but it was a yellow sticker packet so I can only assume that it hadn’t registered properly.’

And now you’re saying you did see the item in your scanner.

Human error is much more likely than computer error, OP.

Ispywithmylittlepie · 23/06/2024 19:16

This is why I won't do the scan and shop thing. OP is obviously very competent, whereas I have a squirrel brain and don't trust myself to remember to scan everything. I don't have the attention span. I did click on this thinking oh no what if there has been a bombing or police incident in Waitrose. So whilst it's frustrating for shoppers and OP when this sort of thing occurs, at least something very bad didn't happen.
I would not get worked up about it.

GatherYePearls · 23/06/2024 19:16

There was an article by a journalist the other day who had this happen to him (random full shop re-checks) three times in a row. What's the point?

At a guess, the point is to make the pattern of checking less predictable than "I was checked last time so won't be this time".

Pipsquiggle · 23/06/2024 19:17

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 18:52

To clear up a few things:

I mentioned my Sunday routine as it’s the only regular break I get from the baby. I like to be back promptly for when the baby wakes from napping, hence using the self-scan in the first place. I was trying to save time.

I definitely scanned the item, it beeped. I’ve used the scanners many times, just never in Waitrose for a large shop. I can only assume it didn’t scan properly because it was a yellow sticker item that didn’t register when the worker scanned it. Not only were there 3 yellow stickers on it, but also the original barcode, so I can only assume something went wrong with their technology. This was an error on Waitrose / the scanners part.

The worker asked me three times to confirm I had scanned it. This was the first time I got the impression that Waitrose / the worker thought I was a thief; she asked me three times in a row to confirm the same thing.

I’ve never experienced over half my items needing to be rescanned. 30/58 is ridiculous, and eliminates the whole point of even using the self-scan. Had I known this was a possibility, I wouldn’t have even used the self-scan. Whenever I’ve been flagged randomly at any other store it has been a handful of items, maximum. The worker was having to place items of food on the floor and precariously place them on shelves and any available spaces in the self-scan area. I tried to pack the items back as she scanned them and was told not to touch the items.

Then, I’m taken to a completely different area of the shop where there is a regular till, but rather than just going through the regular till to save embarrassment, the worker empties every bag and item out one-by-one on the end part and scans everything individually. All the while in full view of other customers and I am not allowed to repack or touch anything.

I am not blaming the staff as I have said repeatedly, they are clearly just doing what they have been told. I’m blaming a system which makes customers feel like they are criminals and embarrasses them in front of the whole store. Supermarkets shouldn’t have systems in place that require customers to have a thick skin.

Nope your context does not help your claim.
So when she asked you 3 times if you had scanned it, did you say

'well I am pretty sure I did but as you can see it's been stickered over a few times, so could the device picked up the wrong code?'

Yellow stickers are unique barcodes so it would be highly unlikely to be the device error unless the barcode is unreadable in which case a different beep would have sounded and it wouldn't have been added to the basket. Could that have happened?

@SensitiveSallySue you still over-reacted. This procedure would have happened in any other supermarket. This is not a Waitrose training issue.

Maybe switch to dotcom delivery. What happened to you is not uncommon, what is a bit weird is your response to this mundane non-event.

DutchCowgirl · 23/06/2024 19:18

I truly hate the scan & go system. Not only I hate the rescan, but also the buggyness of the scanners: sometimes they don’t recognize barcodes, sometimes they just reset, emptying my shoppinglist. Some don’t register discounts properly… my list of frustrations is endless.
Nowadays i order all my groceries online and have them delivered to my house.

ruffler45 · 23/06/2024 19:19

Thats the chance you take when doing own scanning, never done it and never will,

Went to M&S recently and only own scanning available at 0900, will seriously review whether using M&S again

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 19:20

countcalculia · 23/06/2024 19:15

In your OP you said ‘Then, she came across one that I apparently hadn’t scanned. I know I did, but it was a yellow sticker packet so I can only assume that it hadn’t registered properly.’

And now you’re saying you did see the item in your scanner.

Human error is much more likely than computer error, OP.

@countcalculia I meant it hadn’t registered properly on her scanner / the system as there were so many barcodes. And / or the item hasn’t been registered properly with Waitrose. I clearly state ‘I know I did’.

It is difficult on mumsnet or any forum when you are typing as people interpret things in different ways. Another poster interpreted my ‘abuse’ comment as feeling as though I’d been abused by the Waitrose staff, when what I meant was, they shouldn’t have a system that is open to abuse (stealing) if it is detrimental to innocent / loyal customers.

OP posts:
Willmafrockfit · 23/06/2024 19:21

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 19:11

@Willmafrockfit That is exactly my point. They don’t know whether I was a shop lifter or not. It’s surely better to give a customer the benefit of the doubt and treat them with dignity and try your best to save them embarrassment, rather than treating them with suspicion from the off.

i was pretty upset that the security bloke came out of the shop to see me looking round the corner at the plants for sale,
dont put them there if you arent going to trust people!
let alone the previous week he had watched me scan my shopping, i guess they all do but i felt affronted.

HappySonHappyMum · 23/06/2024 19:22

I love the fact that you're upset even though you were actually a shoplifter and they were completely in the right 😂

JenniferBooth · 23/06/2024 19:23

Prettypengu · 23/06/2024 18:48

Exactly. The OP was stealing and she got caught and now she’s embarrassed and making a fuss.

She crushed her own shopping while rushing to get out of there as she was embarrassed.

Edited

Amazing how people like you can still believe computers are always right post the Post Office scandal.

GatherYePearls · 23/06/2024 19:25

Rosscameasdoody · 23/06/2024 18:53

No- she crushed her shopping and cried because she was being treated like a thief.

Where do you live that the punishment for being a thief is to get your shopping scanned in a different bit of a shop then sent on your way?

She wasn't treated as a thief would be treated, was she?

She was treated as someone who had a perceived discrepancy in her scanned items.

Teenie22 · 23/06/2024 19:26

I completely feel for you.

I absolutely, with a passion, hate self-checkout type systems, and even more, I hate hearing stories like this. These large companies now make us scan our own shopping and pack our own bags, to save themselves staff and money, and then put customers through this kind of treatment and embarrassment by spot checking customers ability and honesty for doing their jobs.

I recently read a post where a guy point-blank refused a spot check as he was leaving for the above reasons and I don’t blame him.

Sorry for your embarrassment- especially when you probably started your day having a nice coffee, read of your book and some quiet time to yourself without the kids. X

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 19:26

@GatherYePearls Not being allowed to touch or repack your shopping until given permission seems like how you would treat a thief, as well as asking them the same question repeatedly.

OP posts:
Alicewinn · 23/06/2024 19:28

I think it’s a shit way to treat customers - same thing happened to me in tesco. They don’t use their common sense at all

Bellaboo01 · 23/06/2024 19:28

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 19:20

@countcalculia I meant it hadn’t registered properly on her scanner / the system as there were so many barcodes. And / or the item hasn’t been registered properly with Waitrose. I clearly state ‘I know I did’.

It is difficult on mumsnet or any forum when you are typing as people interpret things in different ways. Another poster interpreted my ‘abuse’ comment as feeling as though I’d been abused by the Waitrose staff, when what I meant was, they shouldn’t have a system that is open to abuse (stealing) if it is detrimental to innocent / loyal customers.

Well at least you are ok and you got through the ordeal of having your items re-scanned!! Hopefully the lovely food you got from Waitrose has made you feel better.

JenniferBooth · 23/06/2024 19:29

countcalculia · 23/06/2024 19:02

I can only assume it didn’t scan properly because it was a yellow sticker item that didn’t register when the worker scanned it. Not only were there 3 yellow stickers on it, but also the original barcode, so I can only assume something went wrong with their technology. This was an error on Waitrose / the scanners part.

Please stop blaming the system. You should have checked your scanner to check if the reduced item had registered.

This is why they ask you at the till if you had any items that didn’t scan.

That was the error on your part, that you failed to ensure item scanned and if not, that you failed to flag it.

Even so, it’s not a big deal. They checked your shopping and rescanned it, they didn’t call you a thief.

Please stop blaming the system lol. the postmasters got told the same thing

Londonrach1 · 23/06/2024 19:30

You bring ott...if I saw anyone rescanning I think it's just the computer making the poor waitrose do it...why you crying and rushing and crushing your shopping...

MoMo999 · 23/06/2024 19:32

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 13:56

I am not sure if I am being sensitive or if I should complain.

Every Sunday morning I go out for a coffee and read my book, then do the weekly shop without the children. I like to be back before midday so I can spend the rest of the time with my children, including 9 month old baby. We have every supermarket local to us, Sainsbury’s, Waitrose, M&S, Asda, Tesco, and I always use the ‘scan and shop’ to make the shopping as quick and easy as possible. I’ve never had an issue until today in Waitrose. I’ve only used it a couple of times in Waitrose and never for a big shop.

After scanning my entire shop, strategically packing it so it’s easy to unload at home, I went to pay. When I beeped the scanner, it flagged up as needing to be checked. I thought that was fair enough, it happens sometimes, and I haven’t done a weekly shop in Waitrose before using the ‘scan and shop’ option. The worker came over and said she needed to rescan 30/58 items. I thought that was ridiculous, in every other shop they scan a random selection of a few items, not over half your shop. It seemed pointless to me to have even used the option in the first place, but I didn’t say anything and the worker started to empty shopping bags full to rescan items. This was taking ages, but I just stood patiently waiting for her to finish.

Then, she came across one that I apparently hadn’t scanned. I know I did, but it was a yellow sticker packet so I can only assume that it hadn’t registered properly. She repeatedly asked me if I had scanned it, and I repeatedly told her I had but it clearly hadn’t registered.

She told me she would need to rescan my entire shopping trolley, then took me over to a till, and I stood on the end whilst she unpacked every single one of my bags and scanned every item individually. It was completely unsubtle, in front of all of the other customers, and obvious that they were rescanning the entire shop in case I was attempting to steal things. I felt like an idiot and a thief. To make matters worse, I am a small business owner working with children, and had already bumped into several of my clients in the shop. I was absolutely mortified thinking that they may think I am a thief.

I was thoroughly embarrassed and teary eyed, and hastily shoved everything back into bags whilst the Waitrose worker apologised. Half of my shopping is crushed as I was shoving things back into the bags indiscriminately. I promptly paid and left but it has really upset me. By that point, I’d spent around 20 minutes having everything rescanned.

AIBU to think that if Waitrose are going to have a system that is open to abuse, they need to have a solution that doesn’t involve treating customers like thieves? I have never had an experience like this in any other store and whilst I realise they have to protect themselves from theft, surely this is not the correct way to go about. It’s not the Waitrose workers fault, it just seems like a very poor system and they shouldn’t offer ‘scan and shop’ if this is the way they treat customers.

I'd just leave and shop elsewhere if they are going to waste so much time - I'd say always go the till with a full shop and ask them to put someone on if needs be - if I had wanted to scan, I'd bloody apply for a job there

KittyMcKitty · 23/06/2024 19:33

SensitiveSallySue · 23/06/2024 19:07

@thequickbrowndog I had scanned the item properly, it registered on my scanner, just not the workers (I’m making an assumption it was because it was yellow stickered). Others on this thread have had similar happen to them so I’m clearly not alone.

I’m not questioning them checking, I’m questioning the procedure being done in a way that makes customers feel uncomfortable, embarrassed and criminal. There must be a better way of doing it.

Then you would have seen it on your scanner (you can scroll through all scanned)and could have shown it to the staff member. In Waitrose it beeps (different beep) if it doesn’t scan so saying you heard a beep maybe it was the different beep.

in all honesty though who remembers actually scanning each item - I certainly don’t - so it is provable that for whatever reason you missed it.

Pipsquiggle · 23/06/2024 19:34

@SensitiveSallySue if you let me know which shop you were in, I can find out if it is a high risk branch

Ionacat · 23/06/2024 19:35

Re-scans are a pain, but it’s a hazard of using the system. I can understand why you might be a bit upset, but really everyone if they’ve noticed, is going thank god it’s not my turn. I took the we’ll do it to mean sorry about this, we’ll sort it out for you. I’ve had a scanner fail on my full shop before and they took my trolley, carefully scanned each bag and put everything back - same treatment on a rescan - it didn’t even enter my head about shoplifting! I thought they were just being helpful! I wouldn’t want the hassle of trying to wheel round a heavy trolley to a normal checkout and unpack and scan and repack especially since when the rescan stuff does happen, they just get on with it.
Seriously ignore it, chalk it up to experience and put your feet up!

Rosscameasdoody · 23/06/2024 19:35

I don’t shop at Waitrose any more either in person or online, because of a similar issue with a yellow stickered item. Didn’t show up on the scan and staff made me feel like a criminal for a £2.00 item on a shop that cost over £100.