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Cat Deeley making fun of epilepsy

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Weemammy21 · 18/06/2024 18:58

AIBU in thinking that any tv presenter who ridicules people with serious health conditions should not be in post? This is what I think about Cat Deeley ridiculing people with epilepsy during This morning yesterday. People like this should not be tv presenters because of their intolerance and making fun of children and adults with epilepsy. AIBU?

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PeriMenoMayhem · 20/06/2024 13:02

Verv · 20/06/2024 12:30

She compared her dancing to a seizure.
Thats self deprecation, not ridiculing epilepsy.

You can also have a seizure if you get an electric shock, or use drugs, or get a bite, etc etc.

I have friends whose dc or family members have had seizures due to things such as flashing lights, hypoglycaemia, and a fainting disorder none of them have a diagnosis of epilepsy my dc does but we know a lot of people with seizure disorders that aren’t epileptic

Ksqordssvimy · 20/06/2024 17:52

I think people with uncontrollable epilepsy (not working, banned from driving, waking in resus, breaking bones, brain surgery) are just desperately grasping for some acknowledgement but it's not happening so let's leave it. To the few who get it - we get it.

Waffle78 · 21/06/2024 16:15

ClaustrophobicKipper · 18/06/2024 19:02

She was dancing and said her dancing made her look like she was "having a seizure"

I personally dont see the harm, and i miss the days where you could joke and be silly freely

My daughter has difficult to control epilepsy. She is on 4 lots of meds twice a day as well as rescue meds. She has had multiple hospital admissions pumped full of drugs fighting for her life.

She has had multiple injuries broken bones lost teeth etc always has bruises. There are days she can't leave the house because of the number of drop seizures she's having.

I know 2 of her piers she was at school with have died of nocturnal epilepsy. She rarely has the nocturnal ones now. But she did used to have a lot of them so has a video monitor in her room.

Epilepsy it isn't something to joke about. No I'm not a snowflake I have a sense of humour. But some things you just don't joke about.

ClaustrophobicKipper · 21/06/2024 17:14

I can't help but feel like everything is offensive to someone, somewhere.

I still hear the phrase "nearly gave me a heart attack" or "they're acting crazy". Heart attacks kill lots of people, and mental illness is horrific to sufferers. But we can't police other people's language, we need to get on with life instead of sitting about looking for something to moan about or be offended about. To be honest if you have time to be offended by things you hear or what people say you are in a privileged situation! It's a sign of luxurious times. But trying to control other people is bit the right answer. You need to work on yourself and explore why certain things upset you and work in yourself.

It's just exhausting.

Ksqordssvimy · 21/06/2024 19:01

You make a great point @ClaustrophobicKipper except it's really hard to get on with life when you're critically ill and housebound or caring for your child with seizures that run on through the night and leave you frantic with worry in A&E. I honestly don't know why so many people WITHOUT uncontrolled epilepsy are intent on belittling the experience of people with it. It's really, really shit and you wouldn't do it to cancer sufferers or people with autism (at least I hope not), so just stop. It's not about being 'snowflakes' or any other ridiculous term. It's about having a serious illness and disliking it being trivialised because you're in the thankful position not to have it. All it suggests to me is - from your part - an enormous amount of black and white thinking, an inability to understand nuance and total lack of empathy.

It's just exhausting

ClaustrophobicKipper · 23/06/2024 10:19

Ksqordssvimy · 21/06/2024 19:01

You make a great point @ClaustrophobicKipper except it's really hard to get on with life when you're critically ill and housebound or caring for your child with seizures that run on through the night and leave you frantic with worry in A&E. I honestly don't know why so many people WITHOUT uncontrolled epilepsy are intent on belittling the experience of people with it. It's really, really shit and you wouldn't do it to cancer sufferers or people with autism (at least I hope not), so just stop. It's not about being 'snowflakes' or any other ridiculous term. It's about having a serious illness and disliking it being trivialised because you're in the thankful position not to have it. All it suggests to me is - from your part - an enormous amount of black and white thinking, an inability to understand nuance and total lack of empathy.

It's just exhausting

Edited

I do understand. I'm not skipping through life happily and being naive. I have multiple sclerosis, and am a single parent to a child with complex additional needs. This is my life. When I say getting on with life I don't mean flying through a career or holidaying or whatever else "getting on with life" conjures up.

This is our life. Getting by day to day and caring for our children to the best of our ability.

Trying to police other people's words it actions or thoughts will never bring happiness

Ksqordssvimy · 23/06/2024 16:05

@ClaustrophobicKipper considering all you've endured, and it sounds a lot, you should have more of an insight into people's opinions. It wasn't so long ago your children's conditions would've been the subject of casual name calling - kids at my school with SEN needs were laughed at. Progress ought to be celebrated, not dismissed. I would never belittle you like you've me and other seizure sufferers and if someone mocked your or your children's conditions I would find it reprehensible. We aren't going to agree, so let's leave it.

Ksqordssvimy · 23/06/2024 16:05

@ClaustrophobicKipper considering all you've endured, and it sounds a lot, you should have more of an insight into people's opinions. It wasn't so long ago your children's conditions would've been the subject of casual name calling - kids at my school with SEN were laughed at. Progress ought to be celebrated, not dismissed. I would never belittle you like you've me and other seizure sufferers and if someone mocked you or your children's conditions I would find it reprehensible. We aren't going to agree, so let's leave it.

WhatAFaffyFiasco · 24/06/2024 13:56

Waffle78 · 21/06/2024 16:15

My daughter has difficult to control epilepsy. She is on 4 lots of meds twice a day as well as rescue meds. She has had multiple hospital admissions pumped full of drugs fighting for her life.

She has had multiple injuries broken bones lost teeth etc always has bruises. There are days she can't leave the house because of the number of drop seizures she's having.

I know 2 of her piers she was at school with have died of nocturnal epilepsy. She rarely has the nocturnal ones now. But she did used to have a lot of them so has a video monitor in her room.

Epilepsy it isn't something to joke about. No I'm not a snowflake I have a sense of humour. But some things you just don't joke about.

Agreed. There was a a film with this kind of joke in the script, something like "don't have a seizure over it," instead of "chill out." it seems to be becoming normalised to joke about seizures now. There was even a social media trend recently where teenagers were pretending to have seizures, then all laughing about it which was imo disgusting.
I don't agree with this kind of joke, and there are many other ways of having "fun."

I do however think Cat Deeley made a mistake, should have thought before she spoke being a public figure, but apologised and it is over with. She seems like a nice person, there was no ill intent, just a thoughtless slip of the tongue.

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